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Jaxi Mar	Posted - 2008.01.14 00:16:00 - [1] Edited by: Jaxi Mar on 14/01/2008 00:17:25 Okay, almost got pod killed today while minding my own biz and ratting in 0.4 sec space, completely unprovoked attack (I mean, I'm a nobody, no bounty on me or anything and nothing good on board my crappy cruiser worth stealing), but thanks to some fast talking on my part, bought my way out of it and as payback, put a bounty on this person's head. Now, my question is, if I can get this person to pay back, is it possible for me to revoke/cancel the bounty I placed? If so, I can't seem to find the function to do so. Thanks and this little experience is making me want to change my career and join the mercenary/bounty hunter ranks :D <insert evil laugh here> P.S. Are there any ship mods or equipment that will disrupt warp jammers? Looking through item DB and can't seem to find what I'm looking for.
Zaskarr Amarr Falling Stars Squadron	Posted - 2008.01.14 00:25:00 - [2] this will help with jammers BTW I was in 0.4 today as well. Attacking unprovoked __________________ How do I shot web?
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.14 00:26:00 - [3] 1)lowsec is dangerous...you will be attacked. 2)you can't take a bounty back once its placed. 3)warp corp stabilizers (WCS) will help you get away. 1 wcs > 1 point of scram...so you had better hope he doesn't have a 2 point scram. if you plan on pvp'ing don't use them!!!! they will drasticlly gimp your ship. 4)as for joining a merc/bounty hunting corp....do it as soon as possible...the game is too much fun pvp'ing to mine. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Jaxi Mar	Posted - 2008.01.14 00:47:00 - [4] Hey guys, thanks for the quick response and advice, appreciate it :) I guess I had a false sense of security going for me as I had been ratting in low sec (nothing lower than 0.4) for a couple weeks with no probs whatsoever, helping miners and such with rats. I guess you get no points for kindness in this game, heh. ~Jaxi Mar
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.14 01:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Jaxi Mar Hey guys, thanks for the quick response and advice, appreciate it :) I guess I had a false sense of security going for me as I had been ratting in low sec (nothing lower than 0.4) for a couple weeks with no probs whatsoever, helping miners and such with rats. I guess you get no points for kindness in this game, heh. ~Jaxi Mar kindness is rewarded, just be careful where and to whom you give it. there are many people in this game that will take advantage of you given the opportunity. As for the "false sense of security".....anything .4 all the way to 0.0 is not "safe" ...low security to you should just mean "no sec" if you want to rat or mine in lowsec...fit a cloaking device or dock up when someone you don't know comes into system. if you really are new to the game drop me an evemail with any other questions you might have...i'd be happy to help. although you might not like my profession (pirate) I have played the game a very long time, and have touched every aspect of the game. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap [BEES]
Kia Lovetly The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.15 02:10:00 - [6] Originally by: Arekhon 3)warp corp stabilizers (WCS) will help you get away. 1 wcs > 1 point of scram...so you had better hope he doesn't have a 2 point scram. if you plan on pvp'ing don't use them!!!! they will drasticlly gimp your ship. The new heavy interdictors make WCS useless, so if you see one and they scram you, you are screwed for warping out. ---------- Mass Murdering Ninja at your service, can I help you?
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.15 02:28:00 - [7] Originally by: Kia Lovetly Originally by: Arekhon 3)warp corp stabilizers (WCS) will help you get away. 1 wcs > 1 point of scram...so you had better hope he doesn't have a 2 point scram. if you plan on pvp'ing don't use them!!!! they will drasticlly gimp your ship. The new heavy interdictors make WCS useless, so if you see one and they scram you, you are screwed for warping out. Blasphemy! I see no heavy dictors in lowsec... you're crazy ------------ Originally by: Praxis1452 you win eve
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.15 03:05:00 - [8] Don't pay attention to Kia... grandpa is making up crazy stories again Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
Wind Ictiva Delta Kappa Gamma	Posted - 2008.01.15 09:15:00 - [9] your "fast talk" probably didnt do diddly. the pirate in question must have seen how young you were and *remarkably* found it in his heart to let you go. but dont let your imminent death deter you from going to low sec. just expect to die a lot. most pirates dont give a toss about how old you are. oh and warp core stabs half your locking range and double your locking time. its irritating but its possible to rat like that. unfortunatelly many pirates fit a 2 point scram. this game¦s got kindness coming out of its ears. just be aware of those who will exploit that. kindness f.ex. is pretty easy to find on this forum. just dont whine, be sincere and most pirates will bend over backwards to give you advice. (of course they¦ll kill you with out a second thought in game) Originally by: Admiral Love Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.01.15 10:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Jaxi Mar I guess I had a false sense of security going for me as I had been ratting in low sec (nothing lower than 0.4) for a couple weeks with no probs whatsoever, helping miners and such with rats. ~Jaxi Mar heh you probably would have been safer in a lower sec, and gotten better rats too (well i suppose as long as your not in a high sec -> 0.0 pipeline, or on a 0.0 or highsec border)
Durzel	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Jaxi Mar I guess I had a false sense of security going for me as I had been ratting in low sec (nothing lower than 0.4) for a couple weeks with no probs whatsoever, helping miners and such with rats. ~Jaxi Mar heh you probably would have been safer in a lower sec, and gotten better rats too (well i suppose as long as your not in a high sec -> 0.0 pipeline, or on a 0.0 or highsec border) This. I've heard many people saying low-sec is more dangerous than 0.0 sec. 0.4 that link to high-traffic 0.5+ sec systems probably most of all. First thing to bear in mind OP is that anything 0.4 down is essentially the same - you will be attacked on sight by anyone who fancies their chances, or "just because they can". The only material difference is that you're not going to end up in a warp bubble as soon as you arrive in low-sec, but gate-camps (with sensor boosted scrammers) are commonplace. Best advice I think is to use the map and mark systems by ships/pods killed in last hour/24 hours, and plan your route accordingly. Also it was my basic understanding that ratting in low-sec wasn't a great deal more profitable than high-sec. 0.0 is where the ratting ISK tends to show measureable bonuses (but with a considerably higher risk too).
Stakhanov Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.01.15 11:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Jaxi Mar but thanks to some fast talking on my part, bought my way out of it and as payback, put a bounty on this person's head. Now that's just mean. He offered a reasonable ransom , honored it , and you reward him with a bounty ? Now he might be hunted down and possibly leave lowsec one day , and replaced by some amateur pirate. It's people like you who threaten professional pirates like us , with your spiteful and irresponsible bounty placing. And no , you can't remove that bounty , it's too late for that guy now. Hope you're happy to ruin the game for us Originally by: CCP Mitnal Thread now lacks an OP but the memories will live on.
Poreuomai Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:38:00 - [13] Besides, bounties are quite useless.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.01.15 13:46:00 - [14] Your first mistake was flying in a cheap gimpy fit cruiser. If you want to rat or run missions in low sec - you're far better off fitting your ship with at least tech 2 items - or even faction items if you want to be able to take on 2 skilled pirates at the same time. Better fits = Better chance to beat those sorry pirates! Pirates are poor and usually fly tech 1 ships with civilian modules - so if you fit your ship with expensive but good quality items, you're bound to win! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.01.15 14:01:00 - [15] Originally by: Omarvelous Pirates are poor and usually fly tech 1 ships with civilian modules - so if you fit your ship with expensive but good quality items, you're bound to win! "Tech 1 ships with Civilian Modules..." Has anyone mentioned the rule, "Don't trust anyone" yet?
Val Vympel	Posted - 2008.01.15 14:40:00 - [16] Do not waste your ISK on bounties. Pirates consider bounties a badge of honor, and it only serves to inflate their e-peens. In EVE,a low level of constant paranoia is your friend. Cheers
Balzat Caldari TRI.Optimum CNet Crescent and Hammer	Posted - 2008.01.15 14:41:00 - [17] Pirat will attack only if they complitely sure in success. So, every easy target it's lucky for them. Check local constantly, every unknown face in local must be warn you, esptially pers with negative ss. If you running mission, or hunting on belts, stay always aproaching at station or safe spot it's help you quickly run away if bad guys come to you. When you fly through several systen use scout to know way in front of you. It some simple rules do not to be destroed and podded at low sec. But better if you catch dosen pirats and podded them they begin avoid you So, don't be an easy target and all be ok. ----------- Per aspera, ad astra
Kronarn Caldari The Dark Rogue Faction	Posted - 2008.01.15 15:00:00 - [18] you see you putting a bounty on the guy is abit unfair, we pirates do not pod people when they pay its its called honour! The chances are if you dont smack talk in local you will make alot of friends from people who attack you, esp if you put up a good fight, even if the pirate loses i have made a few friends. 0.4 sec is alot more dangerous cos use pirates know that alot of noobs want to try out low sec and they get owned by someone then they dont come back!! this is why i think the low sec hunting has become more and more scarce by the week!!!
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.01.15 16:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Kronarn 0.4 sec is alot more dangerous cos use pirates know that alot of noobs want to try out low sec and they get owned by someone then they dont come back!! It was getting owned in my 1st trip to low sec that got me hooked to this game! Warped to belt - started ratting cruisers in my cormorant (I swear its a right of passage in Caldari Space) - whoah that Gurista Ascriber threat level: extreme - holy crap I'm going to get my first cruiser rat! Wait who's that yellow guy that came over? Crap I'm being attacked - no problem, I'm in a destroyer, I'll just fire back - after all I just owned an Ascriber! ... Wow - I need to warp out - lets see here...align, there's that station - I'll just hit my trusty warp butto... Unable to warp because I am warp scrambled?! The rats never did this to me? What the deuce?! I will get you back one day yellow pilot! I was hooked on low sec after that. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Centinel 6 Amarr Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.15 16:19:00 - [20] Quote: Balzat: Pirat will attack only if they complitely sure in success I wouldnt be too sure of that If I were you...trust me, I know different. C6 Quote: Making 6 Inches feel like 12 one hauler at a time
Modrak Vseth Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.15 16:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Balzat Pirat will attack only if they complitely sure in success. That's an horrible thing to tell a new player. A lot of new players translate that into "So I'll be safer if I just jump into a bigger ship." Shortly after that, they're wondering "How did that lone pirate in an AF kill my BC?!?" The other advice you gave was solid (prealigning and such), just don't give them a false sense of security based on ship size.
John Bishop Caldari North Siders Fang Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.15 17:28:00 - [22] yea ship size means nothing, cept a chance at better money from more expensive drops. and the bigger the ship the more you can ask for ransom. best thing to do is dont come in low sec in anything you cant afford to replace, watch local, if your going to stay in a system longer than a few minutes make safe spots and if there is a station/stations check it to see if you can make an instaundock. if you get into a fight you know your gonna loose ask for a ransom if its worth it for you, cease fire and a lot of times the pirate will take you up on your offer to pay i know i did when i was a pirate. and dont smack talk,,, youll just end up in a clone and ask how long the ransom is good for and what it covers it varies from pirate to pirate, some will let you go for the day some will let you get out of their sight and all variants in between. good luck out there _______________________________________________ Originally by: Rodj Blake Large Beam Spec 5 is a really good skill to have, because it almost puts you on a par with people using T1 projectiles. [:lol:
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.01.15 18:04:00 - [23] Bounties do no good. If the bounty is low, a pirate will simply laugh and keep it as a merit badge. If a bounty is high, you've just given the pirate and his buddy/alt a gift. Say you put a billion isk bounty on a rat. He gets into a cheap clone, floats in space and tells his buddy to kill him. They split the reward and laugh their rat rears off. The don't even have to go to the bank. No place in EVE, none at all, is 100% safe if you're outside a station. There are only areas and situations of probability. If you're in a noob ship sitting outside a station in 1.0 sec., you're probably safe. If you're in an interface system between low and high sec. and out in a belt in something like a mining barge,..............your probable life expectency is measured only in time and that time is usually short. There ARE ways to improve your survivability in any security level of space. You'll learn these. Sometimes the hard way. Welcome to EVE, Windjammer
Kia Lovetly The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.15 21:30:00 - [24] Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: Kia Lovetly Originally by: Arekhon 3)warp corp stabilizers (WCS) will help you get away. 1 wcs > 1 point of scram...so you had better hope he doesn't have a 2 point scram. if you plan on pvp'ing don't use them!!!! they will drasticlly gimp your ship. The new heavy interdictors make WCS useless, so if you see one and they scram you, you are screwed for warping out. Blasphemy! I see no heavy dictors in lowsec... you're crazy Your right, I am crazy... Heavy dictors are never in low sec... Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Don't pay attention to Kia... grandpa is making up crazy stories again Now why does everyone think I am crazy... my feelings are hurt now ---------- Mass Murdering Ninja at your service, can I help you?
Khavid Kharver	Posted - 2008.01.15 21:57:00 - [25] Edited by: Khavid Kharver on 15/01/2008 21:57:42 Originally by: Jaxi Mar Are there any ship mods or equipment that will disrupt warp jammers? Looking through item DB and can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Turrets and missile launchers with appropriate ammo work best, AND they don't gimp you fitting like WCS!
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.15 21:58:00 - [26] Hey Kia, don't feel bad... I'm in the same boat
Salome Musashi	Posted - 2008.01.16 04:41:00 - [27] Originally by: Omarvelous I will get you back one day yellow pilot! I was hooked on low sec after that. I hear that. Just happened to me. I want a rematch, or a least the chance to escape the trap and make him eat my interstellar dust.

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