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Princess Bride Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium 143	Posted - 2012.02.14 05:52:00 - [31] - Quote Soldarius wrote: tl;dr: Range and tacticals are a Falcon's best friend. But tier 3 BCs do that better. Bring them. tldr; If the Falcon pilot knows what he's doing he'll never be in danger of dying barring extreme bad luck. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Smabs Higher Than Everest BricK sQuAD. 37	Posted - 2012.02.14 09:14:00 - [32] - Quote Quote: - Gone is not gone. If he's warped, he'll be back. - If you're in his backyard he'll have a ton of tacticals set up at optimal and off grid. So he'll be right back. - If you're in his backyard, and he has intel on your all-one-race fleet, he'll fit 100% racial jams for your fleet. If you warp the falcon out it becomes useless for a pretty long time. Plus it'll be insta primary once it hits the field again. With the tier 3 bcs everywhere I've been seeing a whole lot more falcon killmails. A short range gun tier 3 only needs to get within 70km to kick a falcon off, and a sniper one can blast it away from pretty much anywhere on grid. I dunno, the falcon seems like it exists almost purely to gank solo roamers now. I wish they'd change the mechanic but I guess this is a lot better now than the old days of 200km+ jams.
Packe Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD. 0	Posted - 2012.02.17 03:43:00 - [33] - Quote Dual ECCM vaga works a treat. Let them get one jam on you to give them a sense of security and let you get close enough to bbq them.
GF07M8 Caldari State 4	Posted - 2012.02.17 04:03:00 - [34] - Quote Princess Bride wrote: Soldarius wrote: tl;dr: Range and tacticals are a Falcon's best friend. But tier 3 BCs do that better. Bring them. tldr; If the Falcon pilot knows what he's doing he'll never be in danger of dying barring extreme bad luck. Tell me about this falcon who's jamming optimal is greater than the range of an arty nado.
Princess Bride Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium 152	Posted - 2012.02.17 07:01:00 - [35] - Quote GF07M8 wrote: Princess Bride wrote: Soldarius wrote: tl;dr: Range and tacticals are a Falcon's best friend. But tier 3 BCs do that better. Bring them. tldr; If the Falcon pilot knows what he's doing he'll never be in danger of dying barring extreme bad luck. Tell me about this falcon who's jamming optimal is greater than the range of an arty nado. Let's see, there were a couple... Once upon a time there was this guy in a Falcon. Warping onto grid he noticed that among the other WTs was an arty nado. So he stayed cloaked. Once upon a time there was this other guy in a Falcon. Warping onto grid he noticed that among the other WTs was an arty nado. So he decloaked and slapped the nado in the face with a TD loaded with optimal range disruption script. Then he put one red jam + one off-race jam on it just for fun whilst the rest of his fleet killed the nado. To be extra safe, he aligned before he decloaked. The nado managed to get a shot off, despite the tracks and jams, but the falcon simply warped away because it had a LSE. http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Filskit Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 5	Posted - 2012.02.19 09:44:00 - [36] - Quote against a lone falcon, 1 eccm and some luck or 2 midl-slot eccm and 1 low-slot eccm
Mechael Team Pizza Viro Mors Non Est 35	Posted - 2012.02.19 10:36:00 - [37] - Quote I recommend the kitsune. You'll lock faster than the falcon and jam it before it can jam you. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me.
Valleria Darkmoon No Salvation Heretic Nation 8	Posted - 2012.02.21 09:22:00 - [38] - Quote Most ECM pilots warp in at range due to the instadeath of being in close. While it won't kill them dampening for lock range can nullify them as a problem. Even a maulus that can warp in at range and damp the falcon's lock range way down can negate it for a long time. Unlike jamming damps never fail. The real trick is finding the pilot willing to volunteer for the completely inglorious, if pivotal, task of maulus pilot.
Princess Nexxala The Rock Hard Roosters Villore Accords 23	Posted - 2012.02.22 18:17:00 - [39] - Quote Wait until they jump back into highsec and go afk...then suicide gank them http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12482130 Is sexy time?
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 48	Posted - 2012.02.22 22:49:00 - [40] - Quote An Alpha Maelstrom. Failing that, more Alpha Maelstroms. Continue adding Maelstroms until the Maelstrom:Falcon ratio reaches infinity. This answer is suitable for a wide range of issues. There are few problems in the game that a large fleet of Alpha Maelstroms cannot solve.
Tinu Moorhsum Royal Scientific Research Enterprise 43	Posted - 2012.02.23 01:58:00 - [41] - Quote Alpha snipe is the standard approach. Here's an out-of-the-box idea.... what about a drone sniping Ishtar? Damp/paint and snipe with drones to either force the falcon in closer (too close) or make it hover around outside of it's locking range like a neutered dog. The Ishtar doesn't have great dps but it's got good tank and good range with drones and it's easily as quick as a falcon. Worst case, the falcon jams the Ishtar and the rest of the fleet can go about it's job. Seems to me that if you're having trouble with enemies using falcons/scorpions/rooks against your logis that throwing in a few ishtars in the logi-group would be good enough to neutralize that threat and it would leave the alpha ships free to shoot... well ... enemy logi's instead of enemy ECM. Just a thought. T-
Cyniac Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance 147	Posted - 2012.02.23 15:53:00 - [42] - Quote If it wasn't for the ludicrously long targeting range of the falcon I'd say the Arazu would be the perfect counter - sensor damp, long point, slow death. Doubt if it would happen though... sensor damps need love.
sakara123 Piranha Protectorate Terra Axiom 0	Posted - 2012.02.23 17:33:00 - [43] - Quote arty fit machariels, they alpha that **** :3 Edit: range usually isnt an issue, you can get 150km with decent targeting still :3
PotatoOverdose Royal Black Watch Highlanders Flatline. 33	Posted - 2012.02.25 23:03:00 - [44] - Quote Fof, Alpha, ECCM, Neuts, Possibly drones if you hug the falcon. Bombs can also work, I think it's what 2 or 3 bombs to kill one or more falcons?

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