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          Dart Furious 
           
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 12:33:00 -
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          Trinity changed slot layout in Minmatar carrier - it lost 1 med slot and gained 1 low slot. Currently it has: 5 high slots, 5 med slots, 6 low slots.
  Can CCP stop people exploiting the bug and use at the same time 6 med AND 6 low slots? (Those ppl just didn't clear 6th med slot after Trinity and only added 6th low slot module). Thanks. | 
      
      
      
          
          XY55XTY 
          Amarr The Fizzy Drink Corp
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 12:44:00 -
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          Jealousy get you knowwhere! PWYM also
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          Ursula LeGuinn 
          Versus Gloria Omnis
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 12:48:00 -
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          Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 14/01/2008 12:47:48
   Originally by: Dart Furious Trinity changed slot layout in Minmatar carrier - it lost 1 med slot and gained 1 low slot. Currently it has: 5 high slots, 5 med slots, 6 low slots.
  Can CCP stop people exploiting the bug and use at the same time 6 med AND 6 low slots? (Those ppl just didn't clear 6th med slot after Trinity and only added 6th low slot module). Thanks.
 
 
  I've got 100 million ISK saying that if Dart Furious had owned a Nidhoggur prior to Trinity, he wouldn't have posted this.
  Seriously, an extra mid or low slot on one class of carrier really isn't that big of a deal, and will almost certainly be nerfed eventually. Besides, they have to be careful not to get blown up, adds an extra element of risk.
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          Thy Filth 
          Minmatar Hikikomori Broadcast
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 12:50:00 -
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          haha even if this is true, its still the worst carrier out there! I know I fly them!
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          Emulsifiers 
           
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 12:56:00 -
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          no.... it has 6 lows, 5 meds, 6 high. It use to have 5 low, 6 med, 6 high. Get it right before you start yelling exploit and it's not the worst carrier, learn how to use it. I wonder what bug reports are for....
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          Barek Ironfist 
          Gallente eXceed Inc.
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 13:02:00 -
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          Basically any pre trinity ships that had changes to their slot layout, after the patch had gained the extraa slot but had not lost one, so in this case the pre patch carriers would have gained an extra low slot, but would not have lost their mid slots in lieu.
  This however is only the case if their was a module in place in the mid slot that was due to be lost, so an unfitted carrier would have lost the midslot.
  Barek
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          Cadiz 
          Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 13:04:00 -
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          Same thing happened with Rooks, too. If you had a fully fitted Rook before they gutted one of its highs and gave it an extra low instead, the old weapon mounting remained and was/is fully usable. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." | 
      
      
      
          
          Aquiesce 
          Caldari Caldari Provisions
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 13:12:00 -
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          as posted already, even with an extra midslot, it still is the worst carrier.
  it is basically a thanatos now, with lower damage, and less cap.
 
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          Rastigan 
          Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 13:19:00 -
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          The Eos is the same way, it went from 5m/5l to 4m/6l so you can have it as a 5 mid 6 low..
  If you undock with a mid slot empty the extra slot disappears.
  That still doesnt stop it from sucking though...
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          Chribba 
          Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 13:21:00 -
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          Except you can't undock with it, unless you are already undocked. Same happened with my Nightmare with the slot changes I ended up with 8/7/8 (23 slots) but get error when trying to undock it.
 
 
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          Jelena Jinx 
          Northen Breeze
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 14:27:00 -
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            Originally by: Dart Furious Trinity changed slot layout in Minmatar carrier - it lost 1 med slot and gained 1 low slot. Currently it has: 5 high slots, 5 med slots, 6 low slots.
  Can CCP stop people exploiting the bug and use at the same time 6 med AND 6 low slots? (Those ppl just didn't clear 6th med slot after Trinity and only added 6th low slot module). Thanks.
 
 
  only way this is true is that the carrier hasnt docked yet and was undocked while the patch went live..
  when it docks.. it cant undock again :)
  but i agree... ppl useing this exploit should be forced to take the module off
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          CCP Atropos 
           
           
  
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 14:39:00 -
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          If you believe someone to be abusing this mechanic, then please file a petition and the Game Masters will review the situation.
  However, this does not mean you should go out and petition every Eos, Nidhoggur and Nightmare. Scan the ships first, be sure of your results, then file your exploit petition.
  As other posters have stated, ships that are overloaded with modules can not un-dock, and as such, can not be used as the OP has asserted.
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          Fifth Horseman 
           
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 14:42:00 -
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          But we got shiny graphics. So is there really anything to moan about? --- Fanboi noun: 1)Person who thinks you should be happy that Eve just got a little bit worse.
  2) Idiot.
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          SurVie 
          Caldari Invicta.
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 14:42:00 -
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            Originally by: CCP Atropos
  As other posters have stated, ships that are overloaded with modules can not un-dock, and as such, can not be used as the OP has asserted.
 
 
  I don't know about this particular possible exploit but wouldn't it be possible to fit that last low slot after patch just by being in range of another carrier? Therefor they wouldn't have to dock and can leave the extra mid slot present...? =============================================
 
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          Valeo Galaem 
          New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 14:48:00 -
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          Didn't the patch notes say that the module loaded in the extra slot was supposed to be moved into cargo at downtime automatically?
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          Kagura Nikon 
          Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 15:15:00 -
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            Originally by: Chribba Except you can't undock with it, unless you are already undocked. Same happened with my Nightmare with the slot changes I ended up with 8/7/8 (23 slots) but get error when trying to undock it.
 
 
  Lol someone that had a well fitted Nightmare in space and didnt docked now has the uber pupreme solopownship of doom!!
  Lol imagine a 8 low slots core tank and 7 mids for Ewar.. lololol I wonder if the launchers equiped woudl still work. resulting in an obcene dps (the lasers doubled damage plus the should not be existent launchers)
 
  ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
 
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          Le Skunk 
          Low Sec Liberators
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 15:23:00 -
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          If you do the following:
  Hold down Start Push the following buttons A B A C A B B
  It turns on the blood you know
  SKUNK
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          Keta Min 
          Pre-nerfed Tactics SOUL CARTEL
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 15:30:00 -
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            Originally by: Le Skunk If you do the following:
  Hold down Start Push the following buttons A B A C A B B
  It turns on the blood you know
  SKUNK
 
 
  also
  down, up, left, left, A, right, down
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          Jonny MoJo 
          Amarr
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 15:32:00 -
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          Minmatar Exploit to use extra slot while the same Minmatar slave design Amarr lasers with such poor power. I hope the Amarr god, Tuxford cast down thee lightnighbolt of nerf on the minmatar scum.
 
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          Reatu Krentor 
          Minmatar Void Spiders Fate Weavers
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 15:54:00 -
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          even with the extra slot over other carriers it's still crap, not enough grid for full armor focused fit, not enough cpu for full shield focused fit(which is silly now anyway with 5 mids ). Having less cpu and less grid then a Thanatos really gimps the nid.  I would prefer if they would change the nid back to 6 mids, 5 lows and really boost the cpu on it instead of this half-arsed I-don't-know-wtf-I'm-doing changes . /angryrant -- stuff -- | 
      
      
      
          
          Dianeces 
          Minmatar Repo Industries
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 16:31:00 -
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            Originally by: Jonny MoJo Minmatar Exploit to use extra slot while the same Minmatar slave design Amarr lasers with such poor power. I hope the Amarr god, Tuxford cast down thee lightnighbolt of nerf on the minmatar scum.
 
 
  Oh, God. In addition to being a terrible whineposter, you're moonlighting as a terrible RPer. We are all doomed. The apocalypse is at hand.
 
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          Ariel Dawn 
          Beets and Gravy Syndicate
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 16:35:00 -
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            Originally by: CCP Atropos
  However, this does not mean you should go out and petition every Eos, Nidhoggur and Nightmare. Scan the ships first, be sure of your results, then file your exploit petition.
 
 
 
  This assumes scanning ships is actually working properly though. I've scanned a ship before and seen that it had '7 rigs' fitted somehow.
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          Rawr Cristina 
          Caldari Cult of Rawr
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 17:26:00 -
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            Originally by: Chribba Except you can't undock with it
 
 
  Are you sure?
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          Twin blade 
          Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 19:11:00 -
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          The ship it self is weaker in every way other than been able to out remote rep every other ship in game it should have a 6-6-6 set up to make up for it and a tad more cpu.
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          Khanid Kutie 
          I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.14 19:23:00 -
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            Originally by: CCP Atropos As other posters have stated, ships that are overloaded with modules can not un-dock, and as such, can not be used as the OP has asserted.
 
 
  wow, do you even test the game? I have a friend who has a rook that still has 6 high slots (5 heavy launchers and a cloak) AND the 3rd low slot...and he tells me it can undock. You clearly dont know wtf you're talking about.
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          Dart Furious 
           
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.16 07:05:00 -
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          Bob exploits  
  (look at the fittings)
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          Khanid Kutie 
          I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.16 08:24:00 -
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            Originally by: Dart Furious Bob exploits  
  (look at the fittings)
 
 
  and its dead now, your point?
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          Fifth Horseman 
           
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.16 09:35:00 -
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            Originally by: Khanid Kutie
   Originally by: Dart Furious Bob exploits  
  (look at the fittings)
 
 
  and its dead now, your point?
 
 
  maybe his point was, and I admit to only reading what he wrote and forming an opinion based on it, that BoB still happily exploits. --- Fanboi noun: 1)Person who thinks you should be happy that Eve just got a little bit worse.
  2) Idiot.
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          Haurian Zealot 
           
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.16 09:42:00 -
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          lol @ 2 BoB Moms on that killmail (ok, they only did 2000 damage, but still...)
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          Lazuran 
          Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation
  
          
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        Posted - 2008.01.16 09:54:00 -
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            Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
   Originally by: Dart Furious Bob exploits  
  (look at the fittings)
 
 
  faked km, goons only fly t1 frigs  
  remote rep drone aggro?
 
 
  Smartbombs I guess, trying to pop the drones / bubble / HICs etc.
 
 
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