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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.03.23 08:21:00 -
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Edited by: Kayosoni on 23/03/2004 08:24:50
The kill list:
Name: Eviltwin II
Corp: SWI
Ship: Scorpion
Pod: Yes
Date: 13-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Ky Jin
Corp: SWI
Ship: Megathron
Pod: Yes
Date: 13-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Deja Thoris
Corp: EVER
Ship: Tempest
Pod: Yes
Date: 13-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: The Onyx
Corp: TYC
Ship: Scorpion
Pod: Yes
Date: 14-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Doomsoldier
Corp: TYC
Ship: Apocalypse
Pod: yes
Date: 14-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Treptiomedes
Corp: EVER
Ship: Megathron
Pod: Yes
Date: 15-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Leoder
Corp: STC
Ship: Raven
Pod: Yes
Date: 15-03-2004
Killers: Dreeze[OC] and Mustafa[TTi]
Name: Anti Matter
Corp: GFL
Ship: Apocalypse
Pod: Yes
Date: 16-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Unleashed
Corp: SWI
Ship: Scorpion
Pod: Yes
Date: 16-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Proteuz
Corp: TYC
Ship: Scorpion
Pod: Yes
Date: 16-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Spiritwulf
Corp: EVER
Ship: Apocalypse
Pod: unknown
Date: 16-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Commander Tat
Corp: TYC
Ship: Scorpion
Pod: Yes
Date: 16-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: H3lix
Corp: PMAS
Ship: Scorpion
Pod: No
Date: 16-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
* 2 missing until I get the info *
Name: Cimerrian
Corp: TYC
Ship: Apocalypse
Pod: Yes
Date: 19-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Ushta
Corp: SSC
Ship: Megathron
Pod: Yes
Date: 20-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Greenhornet
Corp: EVER
Ship: Raven
Pod: No
Date: 21-03-2004
Killers: Zoners
Name: Bared Bel'Medar
Corp: SWI
Ship: Raven
Pod: No
Date: 21-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Coritani
Corp: PMAS
Ship: Scorpion
Pod: Yes
Date: 21-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: EinaruS
Corp: E.S.
Ship: Megathron
Pod: Yes
Date: 21-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Sisco Deivas
Corp: STC
Ship: Scorpion
Pod: Yes
Date: 21-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: hass
Corp: TYC
Ship: Apocalypse
Pod: Yes
Date: 21-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: TheFatman
Corp: EVER
Ship: Tempest
Pod: No
Date: 21-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
Name: Titainus
Corp: E.S.
Ship: Megathron
Pod: Yes
Date: 22-03-2004
Killers: C4 Fleet
We have lost 7 battleships, and SA are quite proud of ganking 3 of us who logged into a compromised safespot... how their standards have fallen.
Here are some screenshots:
Fleet Engagment
Bared gank
Doomsolfier Gank
Cimmerian Gank
Treptiomedes Gank
Ushta Gank
I'd also like to personally thank Stain for some fun toys.
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.03.23 09:19:00 -
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So proud they chose to make a forum post about it.
No, wait, they didn't.
Erm.
What was your point again?
I Assume the above post should be a reply to http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=68347
But then does it matter as you are in this thread too Joshy boy.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.23 09:21:00 -
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Ohhhh, it all becomes clear now.
Duly noted and amended 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Neil Crow
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Posted - 2004.03.23 09:24:00 -
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13v1 and you didn't lose a single battleship?
Truly 1337 I say.
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.03.23 09:28:00 -
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13v1 and you didn't lose a single battleship?
Truly 1337 I say.
I belive according to the stats above it says 25-7. Though 2 SA BS have been reported without exact stats so it would be 23-7 so far. |
Lyonardt
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:43:00 -
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What's the monitor window that's showing fps and other stuff? Or more importantly, what command or whatnot to get it?
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:51:00 -
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What's the monitor window that's showing fps and other stuff? Or more importantly, what command or whatnot to get it?
Ctrl + Shift + Alt + M
Press all at the same time. |
Sosona
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kayosoni on 23/03/2004 08:24:50
The kill list:
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We have lost 7 battleships, and SA are quite proud of ganking 3 of us who logged into a compromised safespot... how their standards have fallen.
Your screenshots and comments speak for themselves. They show several occasions where you kill a single SA BS with 6 to 15 C4 ppl and a single fleet engagement where i count 20 C4 and 12 SA ppl.
This "fleet engagement" happened on the 21st and you came down at least at the 14th (when you carefully avoided a real fleet engagement) and this illustrates what my personal experience was.
I was coming down with the SA fleet on 14th to fight you, but you ran (after trying to gank the first one to uncloak at the gate) and stayed in your cozy safespot. I was eagerly waiting for combat during the 15th and was staying online like 14 hours but i havent met a single C4 during that time outside of the safespot. (actually it wasnt hard to see your safespot with all the ammo cans on the scanner, so i am not speculating here - i simply saw your ships in the spot and matched your names in local and your coming and going with them).
Next morning i logged on, you had retaken the station during the night (for us .eu ppl) and was tightly sitting in your (you guessed it) safespot again. After the next day beeing the same and seeing that you just tried to do those overwhelming gankings, i left out of boredom. I am glad that i did, cause it seems it took you another 5 days to do a single 20 vs. 12 "fleet engagement" - grats ;)
To see YOU talk about fallen SA standards because of ganking some of your BS after getting to your ammo/safespot after a week, is kind of hilarious ;)
I dont doubt that OC has better pvp players then me, i dont doubt you (OC) are well organised, i know this type of combat is legitimate and i have done the same in curse (which i am not particularly proud of though), but you are certainly the last to talk about SA''s combat standards, morale and calling SA the "safespot alliance" after your esoteria performance 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:04:00 -
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I count 5 EV battleships lost - weren't C4/OC/OTA clammering about them never being in Stain?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:05:00 -
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your point being ?
All this talk about fighting lame, hiding in safespots, ganking 10v1 is m00t i tell you.
Everything short of abuse of game mechanics and out-of game programs or actions is allowed in combat.
Let's all (incl us) stop whining about it and just saccept a fact.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Kayosoni on 23/03/2004 08:24:50
The kill list:
<snip>
We have lost 7 battleships, and SA are quite proud of ganking 3 of us who logged into a compromised safespot... how their standards have fallen.
Your screenshots and comments speak for themselves. They show several occasions where you kill a single SA BS with 6 to 15 C4 ppl and a single fleet engagement where i count 20 C4 and 12 SA ppl.
This "fleet engagement" happened on the 21st and you came down at least at the 14th (when you carefully avoided a real fleet engagement) and this illustrates what my personal experience was.
I was coming down with the SA fleet on 14th to fight you, but you ran (after trying to gank the first one to uncloak at the gate) and stayed in your cozy safespot. I was eagerly waiting for combat during the 15th and was staying online like 14 hours but i havent met a single C4 during that time outside of the safespot. (actually it wasnt hard to see your safespot with all the ammo cans on the scanner, so i am not speculating here - i simply saw your ships in the spot and matched your names in local and your coming and going with them).
Next morning i logged on, you had retaken the station during the night (for us .eu ppl) and was tightly sitting in your (you guessed it) safespot again. After the next day beeing the same and seeing that you just tried to do those overwhelming gankings, i left out of boredom. I am glad that i did, cause it seems it took you another 5 days to do a single 20 vs. 12 "fleet engagement" - grats ;)
To see YOU talk about fallen SA standards because of ganking some of your BS after getting to your ammo/safespot after a week, is kind of hilarious ;)
I dont doubt that OC has better pvp players then me, i dont doubt you (OC) are well organised, i know this type of combat is legitimate and i have done the same in curse (which i am not particularly proud of though), but you are certainly the last to talk about SA''s combat standards, morale and calling SA the "safespot alliance" after your esoteria performance
LOL, and still you guys are losing more and more bs's and slowly your numbers are dropping in esoteria... hmm i wonder why... 
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Sosona
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:11:00 -
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And now you can call me a total forum n00b for posting with the wrong char - the char i wanted to post with, actually is in SA - its not like i wanted to "hide" my identity 
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:28:00 -
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Sosona, you may have been on at a rare occasion but since this offensive began we have always engaged the SA fleets when the numbers were reasonable, many times when we were outnumbered.
The fact of the matter is that SA rarely engages when numbers are even. In fact, just the other day after SA blobbed for a while and their numbers came down to even we were at the station and the entire SA fleet simultaneously logged out. Anyone that has fought SA knows SA does not fight even battles and that is how they have operated from early retail... period.
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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:43:00 -
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I stil dont understand why people try and knock peoples kills by using the number issue. Good hunters strike at the weak and when there is least danger. Then retreat when the conflict could end up with casualties. The fact is that they've killed alot of BS's and are hitting the SA.
Previous allegences aside i respect them becuase they are doing a fine job of what they intend to, to kill as many SA with as little loss to their side as possible.
Of course fighting as the underdog is fun but often stupid.
People should get over the whole ' well you had more people' argument. using traps, bait, larger numbers etc to win is not 'cheating' as many people seem to subconciously think it.
Nice count C4, though i still dont like you.
-AJ-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:48:00 -
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I've heard that the station in C9N changes hands at least two times a day and that niether side has managed to hold it from one downtime to the next. It's an impressive list of kills, but if C4 can't hold the stations in the area, how can they claim to be 'winning'? Numbers aren't everything and with 100% insurance, how long do you think it took all those SA guys to hop into a new ship?
This is not a flame, just an observation from an interested third party.
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Sosona
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:48:00 -
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Sosona, you may have been on at a rare occasion but since this offensive began we have always engaged the SA fleets when the numbers were reasonable, many times when we were outnumbered.
I was participating during the first 3 days (till 16th IIRC). I know on 16th(?) there was a roughly equal combat with about 5 to 6 on each side (which i sadly couldnt join quickly enough), but nobody was killed. It seemed to be a good fight without any smack and obviously C4 engaged SA then.
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Anyone that has fought SA knows SA does not fight even battles and that is how they have operated from early retail... period.
No offense - but how should i take that remark? For by far the most time of that period, OC has been SA.
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Neil Crow
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:03:00 -
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13v1 and you didn't lose a single battleship?
Truly 1337 I say.
I belive according to the stats above it says 25-7. Though 2 SA BS have been reported without exact stats so it would be 23-7 so far.
I was referring to the 13vs1 "ganking" screenshot. I don't see the point of posting it. Maybe if someone won a 1vs1 cruiser vs battleship, but 13 battleships vs 1 ... 
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teewii
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:04:00 -
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I count 5 EV battleships lost - weren't C4/OC/OTA clammering about them never being in Stain?
begun the PR war has!
who said anything about forum war containing thruth?
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:14:00 -
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13v1 and you didn't lose a single battleship?
Truly 1337 I say.
I belive according to the stats above it says 25-7. Though 2 SA BS have been reported without exact stats so it would be 23-7 so far.
I was referring to the 13vs1 "ganking" screenshot. I don't see the point of posting it. Maybe if someone won a 1vs1 cruiser vs battleship, but 13 battleships vs 1 ...
Sorry, misunderstood your question then. I am not sure I understand why Kayosoni posted it either, but I imagine it was posted because of the cool graphic effects...
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Activor Faust
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:59:00 -
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One of the missing kills was the Megathron piloted by BP Siggi of Black Panthers that was destoyed on the 19th of March. Killed by a C4 fleet of 3 battleships.
Not podded.
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Dubi
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Posted - 2004.03.23 13:17:00 -
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Sosona, you may have been on at a rare occasion but since this offensive began we have always engaged the SA fleets when the numbers were reasonable, many times when we were outnumbered.
The fact of the matter is that SA rarely engages when numbers are even. In fact, just the other day after SA blobbed for a while and their numbers came down to even we were at the station and the entire SA fleet simultaneously logged out. Anyone that has fought SA knows SA does not fight even battles and that is how they have operated from early retail... period.
Duke what universe are you playing in? you just check local and then judge our numbers? next time you should actually try checking how many we are with your frigate scouts oh wait what are thoose for if not checking our numbers so how the hell can you claim you always fight when numbers are reasonable but ok 17vs7 thats when Commander tat lost his bs. and then the fight on sunday 19vs10 we lost 4 bs. and oh yeah I have seen you jump in with when there is equal numbers and that have been decent 120km fights hard to do any real damage but still decent fights been in 2 of thoose since you came down here. one we one at the station the other one we lost at the gate. I have no problem admiting kills or saying we lost a fight if we stay to the facts. you guys always attack when we are heavily outnumbered claiming other wise like many of you do you can't really be watching the screen or you don't use the autoscanner. and if you should happen to attack when we are close to your numbers you are 100km+ away so boost about any kills you want but don't try to make it look like you are actually geting thoose when the numbers are reasonable.
And for the second how the hell should we be able to fight you when you always hide in that safe spot so saying we don't engage when numbers are equal well it's pretty hard to do so when your in a safespot.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.03.23 13:26:00 -
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/me beats his chest harder than Kayo does.
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Lord Drax
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Posted - 2004.03.23 13:41:00 -
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I've had fun down in c9n since the campaign started.
At first the SA fleet was polite and fun on the most part, but now since they have been losing ships the smack talking in local is on the rise. Is this because they know that things are not going their way?
I think it is.
Before you start whining, yes, a couple of C4 members have been giulty of the same thing, but have always been told to keep quiet.
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.03.23 13:49:00 -
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Same here Drax. I will not smack talk in local or on forums.
I find it immature and childish.
I remember a short while ago there was a few EV guys smack talking, but N'fran came and apologized after. In general the smack talk level has been kept to a minimum in C9N considering the amount of players in the system. I hope it can stay that way.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.03.23 13:57:00 -
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Same here Drax. I will not smack talk in local or on forums.
I find it immature and childish.
omg and that say a member of the master-of-smacktalk-corp and alliance? 
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0mega
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Posted - 2004.03.23 13:59:00 -
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It has been good fun in C9N and I salute both sides who are taking part in this war for making it so.
With regards the uneven numbers posts, Any good commander will evaluate the situation before , during and after every battle. A good commander looks to take advantage of the enemies weakness and how best to exploit it at minimal cost to his own side. A good commander knows when a situation is against him and does not throw his fleet into an attack fooloishly. the resulting kills in this post have been gained using these basic yet sensible tactics nothing more, to winge about it only reinforces that tactically and strategicaly that the C4 have been donig better job of it so far.
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:02:00 -
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Same here Drax. I will not smack talk in local or on forums.
I find it immature and childish.
omg and that say a member of the master-of-smacktalk-corp and alliance?
Thx Moah for that useful contribution to the thread, but then I have seen your previous posts which I think speaks for themselves.....
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:19:00 -
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Do me one favor Kayo: Please do keep an eye on what text is written in the chats before posting, i chat in those channels with setups and stuff that consern anyone but my enemies and i dont want this to get out. Im not on those chats but so just for you to keep in mind to keep an eye on what your posting, editing the channel isnt enough only.
Also regarding the smacktalk: Every local in those engagements are filled with with C4 smacktalk, now i know SA do it alot aswell but that doesn't mean we have to lower ourselves to there standards. Im not a leader of C4, i mean **** in the organisation as a whole and i love ya all, but please keep an eye on what you type.
For the rest were gonna keep up the good work, and trust me SA you know as much as i do that yesterday i took out 1 moa in a frigateclass ship solo and we took you guys on many times while outnumbered so dont get me started with us taking out ships when we outnumber you guys. We engage you plenty.
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Lord Drax
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:28:00 -
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As far as i am aware, when we warped into the battle on sunday it was approximately 17 against 14. The screenshots show lower numbers on the SA side as they had started to warp away when the first battleship was killed.
Please feel free to correct me if i am wrong, but please also do not fabricate the truth.
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StarWolfer
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: StarWolfer on 23/03/2004 14:51:14
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Do me one favor Kayo: Please do keep an eye on what text is written in the chats before posting, i chat in those channels with setups and stuff that consern anyone but my enemies and i dont want this to get out. Im not on those chats but so just for you to keep in mind to keep an eye on what your posting, editing the channel isnt enough only.
That's why I said earlier to him, there is lots of nice information to be gathered from his screenshots . Hope this will get you a bit more paranoid
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Also regarding the smacktalk: Every local in those engagements are filled with with C4 smacktalk, now i know SA do it alot aswell but that doesn't mean we have to lower ourselves to there standards. Im not a leader of C4, i mean **** in the organisation as a whole and i love ya all, but please keep an eye on what you type.
Amen. I agree with TGIF here. 100 procent. (Thanks for posting it, btw). Really, why start accusing us for flaming, while you are doing this: (just took one out of the many):
Kayo Flaming
Come on, I would expect a bit more mature behaviour.
If you want to show everyone how mighty you are, do so by getting us out of Stain. Not by a lame kill list. Your not impressing me. Not a single bit. Sorry.
[Redemption Inc.] StarWolfer
Stain Alliance
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