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So proud they chose to make a forum post about it.

No, wait, they didn't.

Erm.

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13v1 and you didn't lose a single battleship?
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What's the monitor window that's showing fps and other stuff? Or more importantly, what command or whatnot to get it?

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Edited by: Kayosoni on 23/03/2004 08:24:50
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We have lost 7 battleships, and SA are quite proud of ganking 3 of us who logged into a compromised safespot... how their standards have fallen.

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We have lost 7 battleships, and SA are quite proud of ganking 3 of us who logged into a compromised safespot... how their standards have fallen.

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Your screenshots and comments speak for themselves. They show several occasions where you kill a single SA BS with 6 to 15 C4 ppl and a single fleet engagement where i count 20 C4 and 12 SA ppl.

This "fleet engagement" happened on the 21st and you came down at least at the 14th (when you carefully avoided a real fleet engagement) and this illustrates what my personal experience was.

I was coming down with the SA fleet on 14th to fight you, but you ran (after trying to gank the first one to uncloak at the gate) and stayed in your cozy safespot. I was eagerly waiting for combat during the 15th and was staying online like 14 hours but i havent met a single C4 during that time outside of the safespot. (actually it wasnt hard to see your safespot with all the ammo cans on the scanner, so i am not speculating here - i simply saw your ships in the spot and matched your names in local and your coming and going with them).

Next morning i logged on, you had retaken the station during the night (for us .eu ppl) and was tightly sitting in your (you guessed it) safespot again. After the next day beeing the same and seeing that you just tried to do those overwhelming gankings, i left out of boredom. I am glad that i did, cause it seems it took you another 5 days to do a single 20 vs. 12 "fleet engagement" - grats ;)

To see YOU talk about fallen SA standards because of ganking some of your BS after getting to your ammo/safespot after a week, is kind of hilarious ;)

I dont doubt that OC has better pvp players then me, i dont doubt you (OC) are well organised, i know this type of combat is legitimate and i have done the same in curse (which i am not particularly proud of though), but you are certainly the last to talk about SA''s combat standards, morale and calling SA the "safespot alliance" after your esoteria performance

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Sosona, you may have been on at a rare occasion but since this offensive began we have always engaged the SA fleets when the numbers were reasonable, many times when we were outnumbered.

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Anyone that has fought SA knows SA does not fight even battles and that is how they have operated from early retail... period.

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13v1 and you didn't lose a single battleship?
Truly 1337 I say.

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I belive according to the stats above it says 25-7. Though 2 SA BS have been reported without exact stats so it would be 23-7 so far.

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I count 5 EV battleships lost - weren't C4/OC/OTA clammering about them never being in Stain?

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13v1 and you didn't lose a single battleship?
Truly 1337 I say.

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I belive according to the stats above it says 25-7. Though 2 SA BS have been reported without exact stats so it would be 23-7 so far.

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I was referring to the 13vs1 "ganking" screenshot. I don't see the point of posting it. Maybe if someone won a 1vs1 cruiser vs battleship, but 13 battleships vs 1 ...

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Sosona, you may have been on at a rare occasion but since this offensive began we have always engaged the SA fleets when the numbers were reasonable, many times when we were outnumbered.

The fact of the matter is that SA rarely engages when numbers are even. In fact, just the other day after SA blobbed for a while and their numbers came down to even we were at the station and the entire SA fleet simultaneously logged out. Anyone that has fought SA knows SA does not fight even battles and that is how they have operated from early retail... period.

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Same here Drax. I will not smack talk in local or on forums.

I find it immature and childish.

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Same here Drax. I will not smack talk in local or on forums.

I find it immature and childish.

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omg and that say a member of the master-of-smacktalk-corp and alliance?

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Do me one favor Kayo: Please do keep an eye on what text is written in the chats before posting, i chat in those channels with setups and stuff that consern anyone but my enemies and i dont want this to get out. Im not on those chats but so just for you to keep in mind to keep an eye on what your posting, editing the channel isnt enough only.

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Also regarding the smacktalk: Every local in those engagements are filled with with C4 smacktalk, now i know SA do it alot aswell but that doesn't mean we have to lower ourselves to there standards. Im not a leader of C4, i mean **** in the organisation as a whole and i love ya all, but please keep an eye on what you type.

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Edited by: Kayosoni on 23/03/2004 08:24:50
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We have lost 7 battleships, and SA are quite proud of ganking 3 of us who logged into a compromised safespot... how their standards have fallen.

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Your screenshots and comments speak for themselves. They show several occasions where you kill a single SA BS with 6 to 15 C4 ppl and a single fleet engagement where i count 20 C4 and 12 SA ppl.

This "fleet engagement" happened on the 21st and you came down at least at the 14th (when you carefully avoided a real fleet engagement) and this illustrates what my personal experience was.

I was coming down with the SA fleet on 14th to fight you, but you ran (after trying to gank the first one to uncloak at the gate) and stayed in your cozy safespot. I was eagerly waiting for combat during the 15th and was staying online like 14 hours but i havent met a single C4 during that time outside of the safespot. (actually it wasnt hard to see your safespot with all the ammo cans on the scanner, so i am not speculating here - i simply saw your ships in the spot and matched your names in local and your coming and going with them).

Next morning i logged on, you had retaken the station during the night (for us .eu ppl) and was tightly sitting in your (you guessed it) safespot again. After the next day beeing the same and seeing that you just tried to do those overwhelming gankings, i left out of boredom. I am glad that i did, cause it seems it took you another 5 days to do a single 20 vs. 12 "fleet engagement" - grats ;)

To see YOU talk about fallen SA standards because of ganking some of your BS after getting to your ammo/safespot after a week, is kind of hilarious ;)

I dont doubt that OC has better pvp players then me, i dont doubt you (OC) are well organised, i know this type of combat is legitimate and i have done the same in curse (which i am not particularly proud of though), but you are certainly the last to talk about SA''s combat standards, morale and calling SA the "safespot alliance" after your esoteria performance

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LOL, and still you guys are losing more and more bs's and slowly your numbers are dropping in esoteria... hmm i wonder why...

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Edited by: Kayosoni on 23/03/2004 08:24:50
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We have lost 7 battleships, and SA are quite proud of ganking 3 of us who logged into a compromised safespot... how their standards have fallen.

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Your screenshots and comments speak for themselves. They show several occasions where you kill a single SA BS with 6 to 15 C4 ppl and a single fleet engagement where i count 20 C4 and 12 SA ppl.

This "fleet engagement" happened on the 21st and you came down at least at the 14th (when you carefully avoided a real fleet engagement) and this illustrates what my personal experience was.

I was coming down with the SA fleet on 14th to fight you, but you ran (after trying to gank the first one to uncloak at the gate) and stayed in your cozy safespot. I was eagerly waiting for combat during the 15th and was staying online like 14 hours but i havent met a single C4 during that time outside of the safespot. (actually it wasnt hard to see your safespot with all the ammo cans on the scanner, so i am not speculating here - i simply saw your ships in the spot and matched your names in local and your coming and going with them).

Next morning i logged on, you had retaken the station during the night (for us .eu ppl) and was tightly sitting in your (you guessed it) safespot again. After the next day beeing the same and seeing that you just tried to do those overwhelming gankings, i left out of boredom. I am glad that i did, cause it seems it took you another 5 days to do a single 20 vs. 12 "fleet engagement" - grats ;)

To see YOU talk about fallen SA standards because of ganking some of your BS after getting to your ammo/safespot after a week, is kind of hilarious ;)

I dont doubt that OC has better pvp players then me, i dont doubt you (OC) are well organised, i know this type of combat is legitimate and i have done the same in curse (which i am not particularly proud of though), but you are certainly the last to talk about SA''s combat standards, morale and calling SA the "safespot alliance" after your esoteria performance

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LOL, and still you guys are losing more and more bs's and slowly your numbers are dropping in esoteria... hmm i wonder why...

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I left Estoria last night out of complete boredom, not because of absolutely meaningless ships losses, and I only have my mining account there now. I have helped to retake c9n about 5 times now, and not once have I had to fight off any C4/CA pilots, even when the numbers were 12v12 in local. I also took part in a little run around on Sunday where we got bored after trying to find more of your safe spots again when numbers were 8v8, then 15v15. Only one scout in an interceptor moved within 250km of us, then left.

So if numbers are dropping in Estoria its only because we are wasting our time down there. If you take the stations again then I go back down retake it, sit around for a bit, notice even numbers again in local (incl you Tholarium most the time), wait for an hour or so, get bored and leave. I log off 3-4 hours later to go to bed when we still have the station, wake up the next mornging and guess what, its in C4/CA hands. And we go down take it back......etc etc. This is not combat, its target practice on the station.

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C4 is winning this engagement by the simple fact that Stain can't mine down there anymore, almost every engagement that takes place, C4 comes away on top and most importantly, by the fact that most of you are complaining about our tactics here, that's always a good thing when your enemy is whinging.

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Why the need for this foul mouth?
Doesn't your code instruct you to respect your ennemies?

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Edited by: Omniwar on 23/03/2004 20:18:08

Lies, all lies,

SA has only lost 4 ships so far and that was 2 frigates and 2 cruisers but they have killed 97 C4.

SA lost those in fights when outnumbered at least 7 to 1.

The reason SA lost 4 ships are the following.

SA lost 1 frig and 1 cruiser because someone hacked their PC and made them CTD.

SA lost 1 cruiser because someone hacked SA Teamspeak server and they could not comunicate.

SA then lost the last ship because of a log on exploit.

SA has proof of it all and they know who the guilty ones are but they simply cant be bothered to send in exploit petitions or contact the law enforcement to press charges against the hackers.




My post is all fabrication and made as joke, since that is how your friends in the CA say about us.

*note* we are not part of SA.

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Edited by: Omniwar on 23/03/2004 20:18:08

Lies, all lies,

SA has only lost 4 ships so far and that was 2 frigates and 2 cruisers but they have killed 97 C4.

SA lost those in fights when outnumbered at least 7 to 1.

The reason SA lost 4 ships are the following.

SA lost 1 frig and 1 cruiser because someone hacked their PC and made them CTD.

SA lost 1 cruiser because someone hacked SA Teamspeak server and they could not comunicate.

SA then lost the last ship because of a log on exploit.

SA has proof of it all and they know who the guilty ones are but they simply cant be bothered to send in exploit petitions or contact the law enforcement to press charges against the hackers.




My post is all fabrication and made as joke, since that is how your friends in the CA say about us.

*note* we are not part of SA.

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I've had fun down in c9n since the campaign started.
At first the SA fleet was polite and fun on the most part, but now since they have been losing ships the smack talking in local is on the rise. Is this because they know that things are not going their way?
I think it is.
Before you start whining, yes, a couple of C4 members have been giulty of the same thing, but have always been told to keep quiet.

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With regards the uneven numbers posts, Any good commander will evaluate the situation before , during and after every battle. A good commander looks to take advantage of the enemies weakness and how best to exploit it at minimal cost to his own side. A good commander knows when a situation is against him and does not throw his fleet into an attack fooloishly. the resulting kills in this post have been gained using these basic yet sensible tactics nothing more, to winge about it only reinforces that tactically and strategicaly that the C4 have been donig better job of it so far.

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As far as i am aware, when we warped into the battle on sunday it was approximately 17 against 14. The screenshots show lower numbers on the SA side as they had started to warp away when the first battleship was killed.

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took you guys on many times while outnumbered so dont get me started with us taking out ships when we outnumber you guys. We engage you plenty.

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Bullsh1t. Most of you are miners, we pvp all day long, do you really think we do not have the b0llox to engage an equal sized force of miners? Seriously, thats absaloute rubbish. What is more likely to be the case is that you've noticed equal numbers in local, which is highly inaccurate assumption of what each force has, seeing as people may not be in fighting ships, people maybe afk etc.

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I agree there are a lot of times when ôtime stand stillö so to say, but that's both sides fault as both sides want to make sure that there is no big hostile login, check the map, prepare the fleet, get scout reports etc.

I think any commander that ignores these facts and allows his enemies to constantly kill off his troops is failing job.

And as for you to say that we are sitting in safe spots when itÆs even numbers, that goes for both SA and C4.

Both are sitting in their spots until one side have been found regardless numbers. If this does not happen no side should be called a coward when there is no clear target.

This is just my humble opinionà

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Let me remind the lot of you. C4 = 40 pilots down there. SA have roughly 150 down there.

Of course you will control the area a lot of the time. This was expected from the start. Fact is however, when C4 engages the SA, SA they walk away limping.

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A lot of them ganks have been under the nose of huge SA forces, a system or so away. I also noticed someone mentioning that the numbers were equal and yet we would not engage.

Bullsh1t. Most of you are miners, we pvp all day long, do you really think we do not have the b0llox to engage an equal sized force of miners? Seriously, thats absaloute rubbish. What is more likely to be the case is that you've noticed equal numbers in local, which is highly inaccurate assumption of what each force has, seeing as people may not be in fighting ships, people maybe afk etc.

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C4 is winning this engagement by the simple fact that Stain can't mine down there anymore, almost every engagement that takes place, C4 comes away on top and most importantly, by the fact that most of you are complaining about our tactics here, that's always a good thing when your enemy is whinging.

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Lies, all lies,

SA has only lost 4 ships so far and that was 2 frigates and 2 cruisers but they have killed 97 C4.

SA lost those in fights when outnumbered at least 7 to 1.

The reason SA lost 4 ships are the following.

SA lost 1 frig and 1 cruiser because someone hacked their PC and made them CTD.

SA lost 1 cruiser because someone hacked SA Teamspeak server and they could not comunicate.

SA then lost the last ship because of a log on exploit.

SA has proof of it all and they know who the guilty ones are but they simply cant be bothered to send in exploit petitions or contact the law enforcement to press charges against the hackers.




My post is all fabrication and made as joke, since that is how your friends in the CA say about us.

*note* we are not part of SA.

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OMFG

Omniwar is Iluyen, Iluyen is Omniwar, Omniwar Iluyen; Iluyen Omniwar.... AAARRRGGGHHH

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No Kayosoni, its not fun. Its stupid, immature and just destroys the experience for everyone else. Take a dump in your own home - not in the town square.

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What can I say.. I LOVE SCREENSHOTS!!!

And yes I am probably the biggest smacktalker in C4... cause it's fun

And about stuff in the screenshots... I don't care about most of it. Configs and stuff like that is stuff everyone already knows, so who cares.

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lol, that's funny, actually i have been in c9n for a week now and have seen oc engage exaclty once, but can't fault them blowing up my apoc in mp5 yesterday, well fought, didn;t expect that scorp to have 3 warp jammers on him, ah well, 120 million in insurance think i'll go pick up 2 scorps of my own to play with wbb in a few days.

Name : Kipkruide
Corp : STC
Ship : Apocalypse fully insured :)
Pod : don't be silly
Date : 23 march
Killers : Marz, Spectre , T-rex and some guy in a bb.

guffaw,

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This situation C4 has created is unwinnable for both sides until black-op interceptors and station defence become available then there will be no more sitting in safespots for either side, your kill list is immpressive congrats on that but alot of those kills as someone stated before are miner kills. Im also not convinced by your claim you have only lost 7, on the day we found your safespot we killed 6 BS and I know we have killed BS on other occasions. Anyway im glad your not bored with the situation as we are but don't get to comfortable down there as when the game mechanics make it possible for one side to win, we will

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This situation C4 has created is unwinnable for both sides until black-op interceptors and station defence become available then there will be no more sitting in safespots for either side, your kill list is immpressive congrats on that but alot of those kills as someone stated before are miner kills. Im also not convinced by your claim you have only lost 7, on the day we found your safespot we killed 6 BS and I know we have killed BS on other occasions. Anyway im glad your not bored with the situation as we are but don't get to comfortable down there as when the game mechanics make it possible for one side to win, we will

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Edited by: Kipkruide on 24/03/2004 14:19:20
Edited by: Kipkruide on 24/03/2004 14:15:13
sorry thol, lol , wasn't logged into eve so couldn't look at the kill mail

duke what you talking about you weren't even in mp5, concern yourself with matters you know something about.
And if your talking about something else, why should i care.

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well the only thing that comes to mind is - why do i actually even read these forums with screamming posts from 15 year old kids ??
Anyway compulsive CA-C4 liars, pls keep it down in local when u hide at safe spots, nobody watch local anyway, since we know nothing happens whenever we try to attack u, nothing but scanning entire systems for your scared behinds.
BTW - this thread was started by some CA kid yelling at me in gq2 with his 4-5 corp mates, asking why i didnt attacked them, very skilled players - not..

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Remind me to laugh the next time Burner sais: "HAHA, RUN LITTLE BI*****" in local

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There is nothing wrong with screenshots and videos. Since the SA is defunct, all they can do is to try and troll every thread until it gets locked.

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