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        |  MortyM
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       | Posted - 2008.01.17 17:52:00 -
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 Edited by: MortyM on 17/01/2008 17:54:50
 Well thats a nice start of the tournament -_-
 You should really rethink you sign-up method, the tournament just lost a lot of it's appeal this way.
 
 People watch the tournament not because they want to see random-dude-a fight against random-dude-b, they watch because they want the big and known alliances put their name and reputation on the line and dig it out against each other in straight up pvp.
 
 
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        |  MortyM
 Caldari
 Reikoku
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.01.18 10:07:00 -
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  Originally by: rocking rocks lots of crying going on in here
  
 speaking in all honesty here im glad some of you missed out, I hope it brings you down a peg or 2.
 
 seeing comments about "johnny whoshisname" alliances is the kind of elitist snobbery i used to expect from COAD before the goons turned it into a spamfest.
 
 Even more so given the fact that all you thousand strong alliances got whipped by a 70 man corp in the last tourney.
 
 The only people that deserve the vaguest hint of pity here are HUN who should really be allowed back to contest their title.
 
 Everyone else, REALITY CHECK TIME! You think Tiger Woods doesnt have to register his entry to tournaments cause hes the worlds biggest golfer?
 
 "Mr Woods?"
 "yes?"
 "You realise your not actually in the Open this year?"
 "WHAAAT?"
 "Yes you failed to fill in an entry form"
 "BUT IM TIGER WOODS, DONT YOU KNOW WHO I AM?"
 
 unlucky.
 
 If you think the big golf tournaments work with an open signup for everybody with only a time constraint, then you need a reality check...
  Tiger Woods WILL get invited to the major tournaments, cause you know, those tournaments gain a lot from him playing in them. Having the top players makes the tournaments more interesting and attracts more audience. Something CCP should think about... 
 The signup system is pretty crappy, and with more and more people wanting to participate it will only get worse. There really should be some better selection criteria or simply more places.
 
 
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        |  MortyM
 Caldari
 Reikoku
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.01.18 11:52:00 -
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  Originally by: joefishy Theres alot of****gotory in this thread...
 
 Guys dont moan because you expect ccp to save you slots ..
 
 40 teams managed to sighn up on time first.. you guys just needed to be quicker
 
 dont be all ass hats and moan to ccp about it they doing a good job atm and you guys are just being plain dumb expecting favratism and expecting spots.
 
 40 teams managed to sighn up first... why didnt you sighn up?
 
 Because there are only 40 spots in the tournament... How hard is it to understand that?
 If some of the people that are left out now would have been faster then some of the people that are in now would have been left out. If people would have been faster it wouldn't have solved anything, just shifted the problem to other people.
 
 
 
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        |  MortyM
 Caldari
 Reikoku
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.01.18 11:57:00 -
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  Originally by: maGz 
  Originally by: MortyM 
  Originally by: joefishy Theres alot of****gotory in this thread...
 
 Guys dont moan because you expect ccp to save you slots ..
 
 40 teams managed to sighn up on time first.. you guys just needed to be quicker
 
 dont be all ass hats and moan to ccp about it they doing a good job atm and you guys are just being plain dumb expecting favratism and expecting spots.
 
 40 teams managed to sighn up first... why didnt you sighn up?
 
 Because there are only 40 spots in the tournament... How hard is it to understand that?
 If some of the people that are left out now would have been faster then some of the people that are in now would have been left out. If people would have been faster it wouldn't have solved anything, just shifted the problem to other people.
 
 
 If that had happened, we probably wouldn't witness a massive whine concert as most of the "no-name" alliances probably doesn't have huge egos, making them think that they're more entitled to a spot in the tournament than anyone else.
 
 Who says it would have been the no-name alliances that would have been left out then ?
 
 
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        |  MortyM
 Caldari
 Reikoku
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.01.18 12:24:00 -
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 Edited by: MortyM on 18/01/2008 12:24:23
 Edited by: MortyM on 18/01/2008 12:24:10
 
  Originally by: Urgomar In fact it will be a welcome change.
 
 95% of the time people only speak of the big alliances, lets give some exposure to the smaller ones too.
 
 I understand you might be pised because you missed the spot, but hey man, all alliances had the same chances of grabbing a spot!
 
 I'm not upset because 'we' missed a spot, I personally wouldn't be involved in it anyway. I'm upset because the tournament with all the no-names is just not interesting for the viewers at all. Honestly who gives a crap whether Green Alliance beats Molotov Coalition or vice versa ?
 
 
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        |  MortyM
 Caldari
 Reikoku
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.01.18 16:25:00 -
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  Originally by: Gutsani 
  Originally by: Goberth Ludwig 
 [ ] CCP's fault
 [ ] small alliance's fault
 [X] 2k people alliance's fault that didnt bother signing up withing TWO days
 
 
 
 What do you think would have happend if those alliances did sign up faster ?
 It wouldn't solve anything, it would have just shifted the problem to other people. The time limit really is irrelevant.
 
 
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        |  MortyM
 Caldari
 Reikoku
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.01.18 16:33:00 -
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  Originally by: Gutsani 
  Originally by: MortyM 
  Originally by: Gutsani 
  Originally by: Goberth Ludwig 
 [ ] CCP's fault
 [ ] small alliance's fault
 [X] 2k people alliance's fault that didnt bother signing up withing TWO days
 
 
 
 What do you think would have happend if those alliances did sign up faster ?
 It wouldn't solve anything, it would have just shifted the problem to other people. The time limit really is irrelevant.
 
 
 do you see any small alliances emocry here claiming they are entitled to a place in the alliance tourney because they are uber pvp powerhouses and are well known?
  
 ...
 
 exactly
 
 Ignoring the fact that it would no way guarantee that those big alliances would get in over the no-name ones and not over the big alliances that are in now.
 
 Yes, I do. I see you.
 
 
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        |  MortyM
 Caldari
 Reikoku
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.01.18 16:41:00 -
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 Edited by: MortyM on 18/01/2008 16:41:16
 I see that some of those no-name alliances that got in are already celebrating it as a victory over the big ones. And thats EXACTLY the reason why this selection sucks, wouldn't be much more awesome if you could accomplish that victory in the tournament itself? Wouldn't that be much more rewarding?
 
 At least I know I would find THAT much more entertaning to watch.
 
 
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        |  MortyM
 Caldari
 Reikoku
 Band of Brothers
 
 
       | Posted - 2008.01.22 13:32:00 -
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  Originally by: maGz But but... Ok I'll make a proper post then
  . 
 I agree that the alliance tournament would probably be in some way more interesting if you had the likes of CI, BoB, Huns et al participating. However I personally think it's bs when they obviously missed the sign ups and now think it's ok to slack off Nova, to slack off the organisation of the tournament and to slack off the participating alliances, simply because they didn't get in (keep in mind, I do support that last years winners should have a reserved spot in the tournament). We would probably be seeing the same posts from BE regardless, however I'm almost willing to bet that we wouldn't hear anything from CI, BoB et al if they had signed up in time. They would probably troll my whine threads about not being in the alliance tournament as well.
 
 So while we can agree that it could have been fun to have the abovementioned teams in the alliance tournament, I cannot take their concerns serious as it's a clear case of them just being arrogant about the whole thing and when things don't go their way, it's everyone else but themselves that is to blame.
 
 Who ******* cares who is to blame. We all want the same thing so why flame/troll/whine at each other instead of at the people who keep us from getting what we all want.
 
 It really doesn't matter how we got to where we are now, what matters is how we get from where we are now to where we want to be. But sadly that doesn't seem to be happening anyway since the people organizing this tournament are pretty strong headed and seem more interested in sticking to the rules then in a fun tournament.
 
 
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