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Pantheon Lea
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:32:00 -
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Hello!
Last Night 15-20 Megatrons and about 10 haulers moved in at "our" 0.5 sec system in the Derelik region.
We have base here, and tutor about 5 noobs at all time, but in a day or two all ore wille be gone here, and we will be forced to move or shut down our noob bootcamp.
I thought the large strip mining corp could move to 0.4 space where there is plenty of ore down here, and sugested that the took us small corps in consideration.
The reply was: We will declare war and hunt you down if you provoke us in any way....
Nice.....
What can i do about it, i have heard about some can trashing with frigates, and i am willing to spend some money on this case...
Any help on what to do and whai not to do ?
Pantheon Lea
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
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csebal
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: csebal on 23/03/2004 10:35:31 If they strip the belt, then you either move your operation, or start to teach the noobs some npc hunting instead of mining.
Space is free for everyone. I dont see a problem with some guys stripmining entire belts. Especially not in 0.5 systems. ------------- This post is nothing more than my personal opinion. It does not represent the official standpoint of Fountain Alliance, or the HUN Corporation in any way. ------------- |

Destruct
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:43:00 -
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kestrals with cruise are generally used for what you propose. be careful about using your main chars though. you might very well have a war on your hands.
You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word. - Al Capone
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Schani Kratnorr
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:53:00 -
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You can hire mercenaries to declare war on the corporation. It will cost you a pretty penny depending on the level commitment you want. A "herassment" type operation using smaller ships to disrupt a corporation wont cost you much, whereas hireing a fleet of 15-20 battleships will cost you in exess of 100 million a week.
mercenary frigates can offer herrasment type operations for a fee. Depending on the threat level, the fee might be anywhere from 15 million to 50 million a week.
There are also quite a few other mercenary corporations out there that you may contact, most however prefer to remain a bit anonymous due to the nature of their work  -- "I am an expert in not caring. The trick is to stop giving a rat's ass about anyone else and start thinking about what YOU want, what YOU diserve, what the world ows YOU!" - Bender |

Judicator
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:54:00 -
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Another solution would be to hire a mercenary corporation to declare war on them. 15-20 Megathrons + Haulers sounds like a beautifull slaughter.
Ofcourse hiring people to clean them out cost cash and depending on your wallet it might be out of reach. -------------------------
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Ichabod Dirange
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Posted - 2004.03.23 10:58:00 -
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Be sure to pass the information along to known orethieves.
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eFitHero
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:00:00 -
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Quote: Another solution would be to hire a mercenary corporation to declare war on them. 15-20 Megathrons + Haulers sounds like a beautifull slaughter.
Or send a message to Ore theives everywhere to get a party together for a free ore fest (kinda depends on the use of Secure cans though) 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:02:00 -
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What is the corporations name?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Kunming
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:09:00 -
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Another idea is just send an alt to steal ore, and they will need to fire upon the alts to protect the ore or put sec containers, which slows their ops, so they will think of going to another system!
BTW with that many megas and miners, haulers, etc... That big corp can even mine in 0.0 space! It's not nice to disturb newer corps or noob training by strip mining belts, so u need to use "not nice" tactics.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:09:00 -
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Quote: What is the corporations name?
I really want to know that too!
Intercepting since BETA |

Bsport
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Bsport on 23/03/2004 11:13:23 my answer would be to get every person in the corp,in cheap firgates,fit them with assault lunchers + sensor boosters. send a person in a shuttle to the belt they are in, bookmark a point 20km from them away from them.
then declear war with them. set a wp to the next system with a station.
then jump in and let rip with the missiles if theres say 30 of u in frigates all firing missiles thats alot of missiles for them to deal with. as soon as your ship gets killed hit the auto and get into the other station
it would be fun at least
well i'm all out of ideas
but yes this size mining op could easy go into a 0.4 --------
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Sharadar
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:12:00 -
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What you could do, is find a corp that does not like the one who is strip mining, and get them to come into the system with their own 15-20 Megathrons + Haulers, and stripmine the system before the others do! You shouldnt have to pay anything, since the corp you bring in would do it just to annoy the other.
It wont save your boot camp, but I think you are unlikely to get a corp like the one you describe to move.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:18:00 -
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Yes, checking the corporate wars list is what I do when we run into someone we don't care to have around. If you're in luck they have an active war on and you have a shot at gaining some corporate goodwill in the process alerting their enemies of their whereabouts & activity.
Convert Stations
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:24:00 -
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Cleric
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:34:00 -
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If they are using secure cans go for the haulers, 5 frigs could make a nice mess of one within a few seconds. To **** them off that little bit more waste the cargo container the hauler drops when its destroyed! bye bye ore
Just keep doing this till they realise it's not worth it anymore.
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:39:00 -
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Jepp, give us the name of the corp. Let us know where they are next. And we shall move in to provoke them un such a way that they open a war slot on us.
-- Lady Beeblebrox
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:42:00 -
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Find a corp that doesn't like the strip mining corp and tell them to do declare war on them and blow them to peices and that you'll pay em for doing so. There are plenty of merc corps out there.
Tell the strip mining corp that you don't mind them stripping a belt, just not every belt, if they persist then make a note and in the future when your bigger or have bigger friends, get your own back.
You could keep blowing their cans up but it will cost you a frigate per attack and will make you take a sec hit. But its up to you. Finding a corp thats either at war with them, or willing to go to war on your behalf would be the ideal solution/threat.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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eFitHero
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:48:00 -
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Linkage
^^^ could be your answer
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.03.23 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 23/03/2004 11:55:26
Quote: Linkage
^^^ could be your answer
Thanks for the advert eFitHero. This is exactly the sort of job we are looking for. Feel free to contact me in game for prices.
Shamis Orzoz
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:22:00 -
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Quote: Hello!
Last Night 15-20 Megatrons and about 10 haulers moved in at "our" 0.5 sec system in the Derelik region.
We have base here, and tutor about 5 noobs at all time, but in a day or two all ore wille be gone here, and we will be forced to move or shut down our noob bootcamp.
I thought the large strip mining corp could move to 0.4 space where there is plenty of ore down here, and sugested that the took us small corps in consideration.
The reply was: We will declare war and hunt you down if you provoke us in any way....
Nice.....
What can i do about it, i have heard about some can trashing with frigates, and i am willing to spend some money on this case...
Any help on what to do and whai not to do ?
Very easy dude, they started the agression with wardeclarations so you beat them to it: You start the war and unleash a daily efford of teaching your n00bius players some real PvP. No more roid sucking, ignore that.
Make a batch of 1000 rifters and provide them with all the basic setup gear and tell em: HAVE FUN GUYS! 
Its no problem that you lose some rifters, 6 can take out a battleship if played well. Im sure such a corp will leave marks through space so do yourself the biggest favor: Kill off their indies and scoop the cargo with your own indies and if you find a lone battleship: Kill it.
Teamspeak is a pro i can suggest 
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Love Ya
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:55:00 -
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I am ready to share the love if you need my help to kill some, contact me in game "Love Ya" the name I would love to help you, and i do not need any money i can afford to loose few ships and clones to, they do not cost so mutch :)))) ----------------------------------------------
I will get your Pod but i will still "Love Ya"
"Run Rabbits Run"
Your pirate name is:Bloody Bess Kidd |

Love Ya
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Love Ya on 23/03/2004 12:58:24 Damn double post ...  ----------------------------------------------
I will get your Pod but i will still "Love Ya"
"Run Rabbits Run"
Your pirate name is:Bloody Bess Kidd |

Marcsen
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:55:00 -
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they need 10 haulers for 20 megathrons? someone should teach them how to mine effectively.
Seriously: Its their thing, and you can do nothing. may declare war on them, but that wouldnt help that much.
Simply go and mine anywhere else :(
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Ninja Panda
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Posted - 2004.03.23 12:58:00 -
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Eve mail me in game if you are serious about this.
We'll quote you a price, mainly to cover sexeh uniforms and copious amounts of drugs, to possibly 'solve' your problem.
Nubtastic Nubmen, to the Nubmobile
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2004.03.23 13:05:00 -
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I agree with the above suggestions, hire mercs and/or wardec them yourself. If they aren't based in your system long term it will be easier for them to move over a bit than cope with defending their mining ops for potentially a long time to come. The idea that they'd wardec you is laughable. Whilst the war is going on you will need to relocate temporarily though, maybe split up and do agent missions for a week or so - it's virtually impossible for them to hit you hard then.
In all, allowing a locust corp to strip mine your home system and not defending yourselves is only going to damage you long term.
*If* they do pre-emptively wardec you, get in contact with JF - depending on the details of the situation there's even a possibility we'd help you for free.
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Isang Relow
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:06:00 -
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Ignoring the fact i just lost my bb with some nice gear, send me a eve-mail with their location and if it isnt too far away i'll head over and give them some pirate love.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:45:00 -
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Not one to play devils advocate, but could this just be a cunning ruse to get a lot of support for one corp. against another. There has only been one post to start with giving no names. Most players who are willing to train noobs have some idea of how to go about getting rid of strip miners.
I may be wrong and happy to put my hands up to this if I am, but lets hear the two sides to this story.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:47:00 -
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Quote: Hello!
Last Night 15-20 Megatrons and about 10 haulers moved in at "our" 0.5 sec system in the Derelik region.
We have base here, and tutor about 5 noobs at all time, but in a day or two all ore wille be gone here, and we will be forced to move or shut down our noob bootcamp.
I thought the large strip mining corp could move to 0.4 space where there is plenty of ore down here, and sugested that the took us small corps in consideration.
The reply was: We will declare war and hunt you down if you provoke us in any way....
Nice.....
What can i do about it, i have heard about some can trashing with frigates, and i am willing to spend some money on this case...
Any help on what to do and whai not to do ?
If they're doing regular can mining (not using secure anchored cans) then SHOOT their cans. No penalty or AI repurcussions. People tend to get the point after that.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.03.23 14:58:00 -
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Let m declare war on you
using harassment tactics, you can destroy their indies whilst they mine, flying nothing but cheap kestrels and breachers yourselves.
After a while, they'd probably get the message.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Matanga
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Posted - 2004.03.23 15:07:00 -
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Declare war on them....
Get some krestels...hit their indies,hit their minig ops...then run!!!!! Guerrilla tactics are the best against miners 
And please post their name here!! "ÆIn accordance with the principles of double-think it does not matter if the war is not real. For when it is, victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, but it is meant to be continuous.Æö George Orwell ô1984ö |
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