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Oddball
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.01.18 16:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Hooch Flux
I agree totally, the problem is I don't have a lot of money to stock up! I usually build directly to order with money up front for components/software. Being in the industry allows me to buy at cost but I don't have the capital!
My situation exactly.
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TitusBrutusVictor
Killed In Action
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.18 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
If you have an OEM copy of XP its not supposed to be installed on any box apart from the one it came with.
The retail license lets you install it wherever you like, but only upto five activations before you have to ring Microsoft and beg them to let you use the software you've bought.
will the end of support for XP mean you can no longer request new activation details for retail copies?
How do you tell if you have an OEM copy?
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.01.18 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Imp, 1 Question - why?
Is it for the business model to continue or is it to maximise the hardware?
Cuz they want to keep making money. End of lifing one thing eventually forces everyone to buy more of their stuff. Of course they tell you it is for your own good but really it is to line their pockets.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.01.18 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: TitusBrutusVictor
How do you tell if you have an OEM copy?
Look at your Windows serial/activation number (you can access it under SYSTEM in Control Panel). If you see OEM somewhere in that string then you have an OEM copy.
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Aaron Ravenwood
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Posted - 2008.01.21 23:11:00 -
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All in all, MS has always been pretty good about providing support for their products for a good long time. I imagine that will continue.
I'm running Windows 2000 and still get monthly Windows Updates for that.
The odd thing here ... is that they are pulling the trigger fairly soon on discontinuing the sale of the previous version. I don't have a time period for other releases but I do think it was longer than this.
We'll see. One thing about MS ... if they are making a mistake - they'll change. So go yell at them and say things about switching to Linux or a Mac. If enough people complain ... they may well relent.
Having Infoworld sponsoring the petition might have an effect too. At one time ... that was a respected technical blurb ... then they shifted their emphasis to the suits who they thought made the spending decisions ... and I lost interest in them free subscription or no.
*shrug*
Couldn't hurt.
Of course the whole Product Activation Code business is a problem - which is why I'm still running W2K ... PAC's just ticked me off ...
Haven't had that much of a problem until recently but I am having one now ... no one's even making W2K drivers any more ... 
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Sharupak
Minmatar
Knights Of the Black Sun
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.01.22 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hooch Flux
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Edited by: Mtthias Clemi on 18/01/2008 10:13:36
They are killing xp.. i thought they were releasing SP3 soon?
EDIT:Tired
Yeah, they are, but they are not going to sell any more OEM or Shrinkwrap versions after June (Well thats the plan anyways)!
So if you got a copy/license your good, but if you want to buy after that point your only choice is to get Vista, or switch to Linux!
Or you can have both! Linkage
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MalVortex
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Posted - 2008.01.22 06:53:00 -
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It will take them a considerable amount of time to go through their current stock, and your still going to see prebuilt corporate PCs shipping with it, which are the bulk of all OS sales anyways.
And seriously... who doesn't have a haxored corporate copy of XP?
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Kasriel
Caldari
Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:20:00 -
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i like XP and still have a copy of it (and will probably run it on a seperate machine at some point) but i have to admit i do like vista..
switched when i built my latest rig, (ultimate 64) and haven't had a single problem with it other than maybe 2 programs not being compatable straight off the disc, easy enough to download an updated installer though
i have to admit i'm a little baffled by people who seem to scream "vista is evil" without having actually tried it, or people who say about how much system resources it needs etc.
i spent about ú700 on a comp and it runs vista fine, very nearly hitting the max "score" on vista after being told several times that i'd need to spend about twice that to get it to run well
but yeah i don't really want MS to discontinue XP, and i have a horrible feeling SP3 isn't going to be much good and just be a blanket "here you go now shut up" to all the people who use XP
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:24:00 -
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it will be a while before Vista overtakes XP/2k in companys.
Keeping XP is a good thing, however I don't dislike vista, I just don't think it's anything more then XP therefore see no reason to upgrade.
CCP: Were like a clock upon a wall, Always moving but never going anywhere.
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Tha Pusher
III ELEMENTS
VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:48:00 -
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It wont happen. M$ has been trying since XP first went into production to make their operating system like mac's OS, and fail miserably every time. They just add more eye candy, but not any functionality, unlike OS, which has eye candy AND functionality. M$ hasnt made a good product since DOS.
EVE!! It's like a party in your mouth, and everyone's throwing up
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Tha Pusher
III ELEMENTS
VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tha Pusher
It wont happen. M$ has been trying since XP first went into production to make their operating system like mac's OS, and fail miserably every time. They just add more eye candy, but not any functionality, unlike OS, which has eye candy AND functionality. M$ hasnt made a good product since DOS, and DOS sucks.
EVE!! It's like a party in your mouth, and everyone's throwing up
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Shiipo
Caldari
Dangerous Trades
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tha Pusher
It wont happen. M$ has been trying since XP first went into production to make their operating system like mac's OS, and fail miserably every time. They just add more eye candy, but not any functionality, unlike OS, which has eye candy AND functionality. M$ hasnt made a good product since DOS.
Microsoft didn't make dos.
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Aaron Ravenwood
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Posted - 2008.01.22 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shiipo
Originally by: Tha Pusher
It wont happen. M$ has been trying since XP first went into production to make their operating system like mac's OS, and fail miserably every time. They just add more eye candy, but not any functionality, unlike OS, which has eye candy AND functionality. M$ hasnt made a good product since DOS.
Microsoft didn't make dos.
Wellllll ... they didn't create it ... Tim Paterson of Seattle Computer Products created it, Gates bought it and then supplied copies of it to IBM ... for a lot more than they paid for it ...
But MS did maintain it and expand it.
It was a crappy operating system though. Paterson called it QDOS for Quick and Dirty Operating System for a reason. He's said to have said later on that if he'd known how important it was going to be he'd have done a better job.
Now ... as to Apple and the MacIntosh ... why do you buy a computer? You buy it to run software. In the Windows World there are vastly more computers and vastly more software to run on them than there are in the Apple world.
Yes - you can probably find some program to do what you need in the Mac World - and - there is a reasonable chance that this program was written by Microsoft. Where would the MacIntosh be - without Microsoft Word? When the Mac's were first released - it was Microsoft that wrote the most popular programs for them.
Apple has certain advantages over the Windows world in that they not only build the majority of the hardware but also write the Operating System that runs on it. It is a much simpler job to write drivers for only a few products (especially when you are building both the hardware and software) than it is to ride heard on thousands of hardware and software vendors.
Considering all the different companies building hardware and writing software for the Windows platform - it is amazing that it works as well as it does.
There's a scene in "Pirates of Silicon Valley" where Steve Jobs says something like:
"Our's is better"
to which Gates replies something like:
"That doesn't matter"
Gates was right.
I remember the bad old days of proprietary computers where each different vendor had hardware and software that wouldn't work with anyone else's. Apple is the last survivor of that age.
It isn't that Apple's stuff is "better" it's that they've convinced their followers (and I use that term intentionally) that they are cooler people than the IBM/Windows people because they use a Mac. Look at their ad's. From the cute chick in the red shorts and white top throwing a hammer into the video image of big brother in 1984 to the Cool Mac Guy and the Bumbling PC guy of today - that is their marketing approach.
I don't own a Mac - because - each time I have thought of buying one ... I found I could get more computer for my money if I bought a clone.
I'm not religious about this like a lot of Mac people are ... I made my career as a Sys Admin and have worked with everything from 8 bit micro's and Mainframe computers to Mac's, Linux/Unix and Windows Systems. But I do get a little tired of the snob appeal of Unix and Apple. So - now that the Mac has a Unix based operating system ... you've got the worst of both.
Hmmm ... what was this thread about ... I forgot ...
*shrug*
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