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Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:10:00 - [1] M$, as most probably know are going to kill XP at the end of June, I found this petition to ask M$ not to kill it! Now I am not trying to start a Vista debate here, all I will say is the Vista experience has been a mixed bag for a lot of people. So this isn't a Poo-poo Vista thread or a Vista is God thread. I just don't want to see XP go yet and make me (Eventually) have to buy something I neither want or need! (I'm sure I will have to upgrade to something eventually, but I would like to have a good fallback!) I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:10:00 - [2] M$, as most probably know are going to kill XP at the end of June, I found this petition to ask M$ not to kill it! Now I am not trying to start a Vista debate here, all I will say is the Vista experience has been a mixed bag for a lot of people. So this isn't a Poo-poo Vista thread or a Vista is God thread. I just don't want to see XP go yet and make me (Eventually) have to buy something I neither want or need! (I'm sure I will have to upgrade to something eventually, but I would like to have a good fallback!) I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:13:00 - [3] Edited by: Mtthias Clemi on 18/01/2008 10:13:36 They are killing xp.. i thought they were releasing SP3 soon? EDIT:Tired
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:13:00 - [4] Edited by: Mtthias Clemi on 18/01/2008 10:13:36 They are killing xp.. i thought they were releasing SP3 soon? EDIT:Tired
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Edited by: Mtthias Clemi on 18/01/2008 10:13:36 They are killing xp.. i thought they were releasing SP3 soon? EDIT:Tired Yeah, they are, but they are not going to sell any more OEM or Shrinkwrap versions after June (Well thats the plan anyways)! So if you got a copy/license your good, but if you want to buy after that point your only choice is to get Vista, or switch to Linux! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:17:00 - [6] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Edited by: Mtthias Clemi on 18/01/2008 10:13:36 They are killing xp.. i thought they were releasing SP3 soon? EDIT:Tired Yeah, they are, but they are not going to sell any more OEM or Shrinkwrap versions after June (Well thats the plan anyways)! So if you got a copy/license your good, but if you want to buy after that point your only choice is to get Vista, or switch to Linux! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:19:00 - [7] I use vista, as does everyone in my home! Doesn't particularly concern me, oh well! Good Luck with that.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:19:00 - [8] I use vista, as does everyone in my home! Doesn't particularly concern me, oh well! Good Luck with that.
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:21:00 - [9] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi I use vista, as does everyone in my home! Doesn't particularly concern me, oh well! Good Luck with that. And yet you post! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:21:00 - [10] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi I use vista, as does everyone in my home! Doesn't particularly concern me, oh well! Good Luck with that. And yet you post! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Hooch Flux Originally by: Mtthias Clemi I use vista, as does everyone in my home! Doesn't particularly concern me, oh well! Good Luck with that. And yet you post! Theres nothing wrong with enquiring as to the nature of the OP! and i wished you good luck
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:44:00 - [12] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Originally by: Hooch Flux Originally by: Mtthias Clemi I use vista, as does everyone in my home! Doesn't particularly concern me, oh well! Good Luck with that. And yet you post! Theres nothing wrong with enquiring as to the nature of the OP! and i wished you good luck My apologies, that did come out bad, was meant in a friendly way! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:44:00 - [13] Edited by: Xen Gin on 18/01/2008 10:44:57 Sweet SP3?
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:46:00 - [14] Edited by: Mtthias Clemi on 18/01/2008 10:47:34 Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 18/01/2008 10:44:57 Sweet SP3? Dont change your posts while im quoting them! it wastes my time! yeah SP3 is said to improve XP speed etc even more, whereas SP1 for vista does not heh.
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:49:00 - [15] Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 18/01/2008 10:44:57 Sweet SP3? I enquired in the first one jees, you people and perpetuating arguments... Either way, its a business decision for them, they want people to move onto the new OS which is fair enough, i mean its their product, its not as if they are stopping people from using XP anyway. I build some low end/budget machine's for people as well as higher end gaming rigs, for the lower end machine's Vista is not really suitable and I would still like the choice is all! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Mtthias Clemi Gallente The Space Bastards	Posted - 2008.01.18 10:53:00 - [16] Originally by: Hooch Flux Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 18/01/2008 10:44:57 Sweet SP3? I enquired in the first one jees, you people and perpetuating arguments... Either way, its a business decision for them, they want people to move onto the new OS which is fair enough, i mean its their product, its not as if they are stopping people from using XP anyway. I build some low end/budget machine's for people as well as higher end gaming rigs, for the lower end machine's Vista is not really suitable and I would still like the choice is all! Stockpile XP while you still can then, thats my soltuion... stockpiling is alllwaayyss the solution.
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2008.01.18 11:18:00 - [17] If you have an OEM copy of XP its not supposed to be installed on any box apart from the one it came with. The retail license lets you install it wherever you like, but only upto five activations before you have to ring Microsoft and beg them to let you use the software you've bought. will the end of support for XP mean you can no longer request new activation details for retail copies? [IMAGE REMOVED]
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 11:35:00 - [18] Edited by: Hooch Flux on 18/01/2008 11:35:32 Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Originally by: Hooch Flux Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 18/01/2008 10:44:57 Sweet SP3? I enquired in the first one jees, you people and perpetuating arguments... Either way, its a business decision for them, they want people to move onto the new OS which is fair enough, i mean its their product, its not as if they are stopping people from using XP anyway. I build some low end/budget machine's for people as well as higher end gaming rigs, for the lower end machine's Vista is not really suitable and I would still like the choice is all! Stockpile XP while you still can then, thats my soltuion... stockpiling is alllwaayyss the solution. I agree totally, the problem is I don't have a lot of money to stock up! I usually build directly to order with money up front for components/software. Being in the industry allows me to buy at cost but I don't have the capital! Originally by: ry ry will the end of support for XP mean you can no longer request new activation details for retail copies? I believe activation will still work for a while (Not sure how long)! It's just being pulled of the shelves so you wont be able to get any new copies (no biggy)/license (Problematic)! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.18 11:41:00 - [19] No vista on my rigs, anytime soon. I' rather install Gentoo Linux.
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 11:46:00 - [20] Originally by: Sokratesz No vista on my rigs, anytime soon. I' rather install Gentoo Linux. Thx Sokratesz, I know it's tempting but I would like to try to stay away from OS wars on this thread please! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Avery Fatwallet	Posted - 2008.01.18 13:08:00 - [21] i have this theory: if vista is fundamentally broken in the first place, it will run the course of windows me (or was it 98? the one that was a "branch" in the os line, as it died out rather soon, while the 2k line was continued) although there IS this small possibility, that ecen in that case M$ doesnt care anymore, and will just overrun us with money. and vista. im happy i started to learn to use linux months ago.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.18 14:07:00 - [22] Originally by: Hooch Flux Originally by: Sokratesz No vista on my rigs, anytime soon. I' rather install Gentoo Linux. Thx Sokratesz, I know it's tempting but I would like to try to stay away from OS wars on this thread please! I spent 3 days installing Gentoo once, it wasnt very pleasant Still would prefer it over Vista. I've had to fix over a dozen driver issues on pcs from friends/family already, its a frikking nightmare. MS shutting down XP support and thus slowly forcing everyone to go vista wont make things any better im afraid.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.01.18 14:09:00 - [23] So, if they stop selling it, does it mean it's ok to pirate it ? 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 14:17:00 - [24] Originally by: Akita T So, if they stop selling it, does it mean it's ok to pirate it ? Unfortunatly not until the copyright runs out, unless you get a legal pirate copy from Antigua! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.01.18 14:43:00 - [25] So, if you get the legal pirate copy from Antigua, can you copy and distribute THAT ? 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.18 14:54:00 - [26] Originally by: Akita T So, if you get the legal pirate copy from Antigua, can you copy and distribute THAT ? Good question, probably not though! The lawyers would probably argue that outside Antigua they retain the rights to the product and any copies made would resolve back to normal copyright law! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Dismus Gallente Sigma Shipwright and Exploration	Posted - 2008.01.18 15:05:00 - [27] You know, it's only happening like this because not enough people are running Vista. MicroSlop needs more Open Beta Testers to find all the bugs - I mean... Release Users to find all the "Undocumented Features." They already found that problem moving from Windows 9x to Windows XP. Of course it's going to happen again, but this time they can force the move to Vista. Originally by: Draeca Domi isn't ugly, it actually looks quite symphatic. I mean, a crossbreed of a whale and a potato.. Now how cute is that?
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2008.01.18 15:53:00 - [28] I can't imagine MS turning away business from companies and the like who want 100 clients running XP for example, although I can understand them stopping retail sales. They usually maintain a 7 year life-cycle on their products, which would give XP a couple more years of support before they stop updates for it. The problem with this latest OS release, is that unlike previous generations, people haven't rushed out to upgrade. The place I work at just upgraded 700 PCs last Summer, and opted for XP/Office 2k3 for example, and there will be others. Home computers bought from the last year or so ago till now tho have come with Vista as standard. I think by the time XP nears the end of its lifecycle, we'll all be using it, or whatever comes next. Vista will by then be much more fully supported in terms of software support (inc. bringing 16bit apps up-to-date), drivers, games and so on...it's just that right now, on the cusp between DX9 & DX10 games f.ex, there's really no reason to switch. And with the size and speed of Vista compared to XP and the performance hit out of the box on the same hardware, there's 2 big reasons not to. It's just one of those long processes of slowly phasing out from one to another. Many of us are still using IDE drives and AGP GFX cards too, but next time we upgrade, that's sure to change as well. -------------
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.01.18 16:26:00 - [29] Originally by: KingsGambit I can't imagine MS turning away business from companies and the like who want 100 clients running XP for example, although I can understand them stopping retail sales. They usually maintain a 7 year life-cycle on their products, which would give XP a couple more years of support before they stop updates for it. Well...when a company puts a product into its End-of-Life cycle there are a few steps. First is stopping sales of the product. Then after awhile they will stop coding updates. Some while after that they will not even support it at all. The whole process is a few years long for something like this. In the end MS wants to force users to Vista and they will not change it no matter how many petitions are signed. Eventually Vista will get enough code updates to be stable and enough people will have new enough computers to run it to be not be a problem. At which point MS will doubtless release a new OS and start the whole process over again.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2008.01.18 16:28:00 - [30] Imp, 1 Question - why? Is it for the business model to continue or is it to maximise the hardware? ~Nyron Originally by: Minerva Vulcan But poor victimized Ulf...I weep lavender scented tears for you.

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