Garinthor
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Posted - 2008.01.18 19:29:00 -
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The general consensus is that the Proph is good for its price, good tank but weak gank. Harbinger on the other hand is almost all gank and little tank. With Battlecruisers V in hand, I sought to find the best setups with each and whats better in what situations.
I have been doing level 3 missions with my Harby. As most, my tank is fairly weak with 3 hardeners and a MAR II. My resistances rest at about 50-60%. My best defense is being able to kill enemies quickly. I find myself having to warp out on the harder missions, which angered me. Why should this tier 2 battlecruiser have to warp out on missions other battlecruisers do so easily?(Drake hurricane myrm)
PVP wise, I have not solo pvped in either yet. My assumptions are that Harby would rely on 3 heatsinks and 7x HPLs to quickly finish his target before his target broke its weak tank, though I don't have alot of faith in this tactic. However, the proph hardly has better options since 3 midslots is gimp for solo PVP and little damage that could be tanked by, oh i dont know, a Harby?
Anyways, my current setup for level 3 missions in harbinger:
6x Heavy Beam I's (AWU 0 for the loss)
1x Tractor beam
1x AB
1x Web
2x Cap rechargers
1x MAR II
3x Hardeners (kin therm exp)
2x Heat Sink
5x hammerheads
The problem isnt that I run out of cap, cap works fine if both the AB and MAR arent active at the same time, its that I simply cant tank in the incoming damage fast enough. I end up warping in, killing one guy or getting him to structure before I have to warp out. This happens on missions like The Blockade, Gone Beserk, and anotehr I cant remember.
As for proph..I think is this a very good setup, I'm pretty faithful in its tanking abilities, do you think I'd have to warp out?
5x HPL I (no tech 2 yet nor AWU to handle them)
2x Small Nos II
1x AB
1x fleeting web
1x med cap injector 800s
2x MAR II
3x Hardeners (kin therm exp)
1x DCU
5x hobgoblins
This setup im getting 75%+ resists across the board. 80% on therm. 150 dps compared to the harby which I think with my HPL setup was like 270 or something
With those awesome resists and 2x MARs (and the cap to sustain them), I think it could prove to be a more even match against the DPS of harder level 3 missions. It may take a bit longer though you may not have to warp out, what do you guys think?
As for PVP, I think the proph setup above -AB +warp distrupt would be the best bet. Harbinger would be 7x HPL, 2-3x heatsinks, MAR, and then your normal mid slot pvp setup. Everyone says the harb is better in everyway, but if the proph is better at tanking, and missions are more tank than gank, then wouldnt the proph be better? Also, for solo pvp kind of ships could be taken down with these battlecruisers? What would you engage and what would you not engage?
Alot of questions here, but I come to the forums for enlightenment.
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