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Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.18 20:31:00 -
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There has been a overwhelming interest from people in Molden Heat about the war between BYDI and FDN so i thought id make a little update on how it is going on the forum..Then i dont have to repeat myself all the time..
INTRO:
Bydi and Foundation have been a pain in the arse for each other for a while as we live in the same place..
The fights had been fun with usually bs/bc gangs going at each other but the fun stopped when FDN started to cyno in ships non stop in most fights..
So we declared war on them to get some easy kills on solo pilots and even out the score with us avoiding sentry damage..
Week 1:
The first week went by with some awesome fights and FDN showed that there is lots of quality and trigger happy pilots in the alliance..
We have had good contact between us and the FDN leadership have been going to the BYDI killboard to get losses that aren`t posted..
I feel that they have to get credits for that and it is a very good attitude by FDN..
There was capital ships from both sides entering fleet fights but generally it got kept to a minimum.
Week 2:
Week 2 started with a dissapointment when they added our friends in RUIN to the BYDI campaign on their killboard after killing a few capital ships in a RUIN vs FDN gang..
I asked them why and they said that they had to make the score more even by adding our friends losses..
The war is between BYDI and FDN imo but we do the same gest for them and added some of their friends which ofcourse doesn`t show the correct picture of the war..
I talked to Space Chutney and we came to an agreement to not make a fuzz about it and once again the FDN leadership was cool to talk with..
The second week has gone by with a almost non existant FDN and lots of small ganks from our side to lonely pilots..
Unfortunately the last few days have been the most useless days of any war i have had..
Almost every third kill we got from FDN the pilot has a cyno on the ship and there is no will to fight..
2 examples:
Yesterday a Bydi Harbinger attacked a Myrmidon,Rapier,Tristan and Punisher and they cynoed in a Nyx..
I came in a Rapier to help out too late but in the end we lost the Harbinger and killed a Myrmidon,Rapier,Taranis and Tristan..
Then today i met a Rapier in my Rapier..We went at it 1vs1 (not arranged) and as his shield was going down it happened..
First in was a Chimera..Then a Nyx..And 3 seconds later a Thanatos..
I was 50km away at that time so i sticked around long enough to kill the Rapier and get out..
If you just sent a few cruisers i would died and it would been much faster than getting 3 capital ships to undock and warp to me..
We will keep this war going and even tho the last days has been pretty bad we hope that they keep bringing the fights they did the first week..
And now to some stats:
Bydi vs FDN: 61 - 24
Bydi vs FDN and friends = 143 - 31
8 bill dmg done and 2,3 bill recieved..
http://bydi.griefwatch.net/?p=campaigns
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Keepit cool
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Posted - 2008.01.18 20:49:00 -
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You guys are bob-pets?
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Jhonen Senraedi
Minmatar
Universal Exports
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.18 21:32:00 -
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Nice to see the fiction section of these boards being kept alive!
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Zinx 007
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Posted - 2008.01.18 21:41:00 -
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Molden Heath is a great battle ground. I have been in a few gangs with BYDI and RUIN and it's been great fun. I have to admit the supercaps are a little excessive, but besides that the pew pew is plentiful and it has been the best low sec war I have been in.
Thanks for the fun BYDI and FDN. 
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munchy
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2008.01.18 21:46:00 -
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sounds like you guys are having a good time down there.
good to hear bydi and fnd are still pew pewing, and hopefully you'll get some better fights in the coming days.
stop that ms spam fnd  you're better than that!
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.19 00:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi
Nice to see the fiction section of these boards being kept alive!
How is it fiction? The numbers match your killboard almost exactly except for a few of your losses not posted.
Seriously, less caps = more fights and less gankage of solo pilots, fun for everybody.
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Ackaroth
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.19 04:53:00 -
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Was a good read. Good stats put up by BYDI. Not sure if old mate Noobjuice is still among ya, but I still have my first ship from 0.0 out in a detorid station that he donated to me. "Noobjuice's Merlin". I kept it for nostalgia. A year and some change later he ganked me in deklein in sleipnir while I wasn't watching local. As always, an amazing pilot.
By the numbers, BYDI fly some expensive ships :)
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Karandor
Minmatar
Wildlands Heavy Technologies
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 08:08:00 -
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if you want more fights come to us in GW sometime.
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Blight1
Caldari
Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2008.01.19 09:05:00 -
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Hi, we wardec'd you, but please don't bring big ships its not fair!
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CamMan
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.19 10:43:00 -
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Ugluuk, far too much whinging in your thread, if you know what they are doing then use it to your advantage, setup a trap for their MS. The next post I want to read from you should be "BYDI setup, trap and kill FDN nyx".
As for the killboard stats thing "they did it, so we did it too" is a poor excuse mate, take the high ground and dont adjust your campaign stats, at least then you can say that your killboard is accurate.
Cheers Cam
Originally by: Bender
Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
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Awox
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2008.01.19 10:52:00 -
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It's too easy for small NPC corp space alliances to get supercaps. I guess it has something to do with all the ISK farmers? :/
Nice work BYDI.
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi
Nice to see the fiction section of these boards being kept alive!
Yeah, because cynophoons don't exist?? :D
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.19 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 19/01/2008 10:58:50
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi
Nice to see the fiction section of these boards being kept alive!
there are too many people that have experienced the exact same thing from the people of 'the east' for this to be fiction.
capital spam.. its why 0.0 and to lesser extent, lowsec..) sucks complete balls for any small time pvper(s)
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Alazais
Fairlight Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 11:06:00 -
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This demonstrates the nature of killboards and friends, since on our campaign against you we have 66% efficiency, which is outstanding for a larger entity fighting a smaller one (who can pick targets and avoid the FCs). The key is that we are including The Reunion, your capital support corp, in the statistics. If you include our friends (and we fly very pure gangs anyway) you should include yours too :)
Cap ships have certainly been dropped on both sides. For example:
Friday, January 11th
A merry band of FDN warriors, from new corp Aurora Acclivitous, travel through Oddelulf. Birds are singing, weather is sweet (Bob Marley is dancing). Then the heavens open and two Moros, one Phoenix (all 3 from The Renuion) and a Thanatos flown by Ugluuk drop from the sky to support the BYDI battleship gang. Four FDN battleships are lost.
A few hours later..
Coffee has been served and the main FDN gang is a little bored. Word comes through about some capital ganking so Valdor sends a gang to investigate.
Sure enough, we hit Molden Heath with about 8 ships and Villwrath (one of the Moros pilots from the earlier engagement) is on a gate in Bosena in a Hyperion. Valdor Hag engages and Villwrath drops a cyno. A Moros, Archon and Thanatos jump in and begin engaging our 3 bs on the gate.
We return the favour with our own cyno, and you can enjoy the resultant rout in some nice premium graphics screenshots (extreme shadows/HDR/bloom):
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/morium/11jan1.jpg
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/morium/11jan2.jpg
All three BYDI/Reunion caps are destroyed.
Now the thing is, this is natural when a small corp decs a 0.0 alliance - the key is the cat and mouse game; to make your hit before the kitchen sink falls. Since we have 66% efficiency (all stats are relative though), you guys still have some work to do (not saying you don't get some nice kills though; and you'll get more).
However, I would say none of this really deserves a CAOD thread, even our triple cap ship ganking described above, which was the biggest fight in - as you admit - a very low key war.
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Kaleeb
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.19 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ackaroth
Not sure if old mate Noobjuice is still among ya,
No mate Noob is in OMNOR, still flying bs with tech I guns 
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unknownuna
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.19 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: unknownuna on 19/01/2008 13:29:43
Alazais: There is a slight difference between dropping carriers/dreads on a battleship gang, and dropping carriers and a mothership on a single recon cruiser. ;)
It all boils down to the problem of two groups pre-empting each other with capitals, but it has to be said that you have used them far more liberally than us. That said, you obviously have more at hand.
I believe the key difference is that we are all about getting *good* fights. A one sided gank means nothing more to us than a cargo full of loot and some meaningless KB stats. I'm not saying fighting to win is a bad thing, but it has lead to repeated blobbing. I want to make it clear that i'm not whining in any way here.
That said, our wardec on FDN is one of several, and not the whole focus of our fighting. Quoting single killboard stats to paint a different picture is meaningless. The best way is to look at both killboards and find out for yourself, if that sort of thing pleases you.
In the meanwhile, i'll be flying around MH looking for 1v1s. :P
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Simariliia
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.19 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Simariliia on 19/01/2008 14:21:39
Originally by: unknownuna
Edited by: unknownuna on 19/01/2008 13:29:43
Alazais: There is a slight difference between dropping carriers/dreads on a battleship gang, and dropping carriers and a mothership on a single recon cruiser. ;)
It all boils down to the problem of two groups pre-empting each other with capitals, but it has to be said that you have used them far more liberally than us. That said, you obviously have more at hand.
I believe the key difference is that we are all about getting *good* fights. A one sided gank means nothing more to us than a cargo full of loot and some meaningless KB stats. I'm not saying fighting to win is a bad thing, but it has lead to repeated blobbing. I want to make it clear that i'm not whining in any way here.
That said, our wardec on FDN is one of several, and not the whole focus of our fighting. Quoting single killboard stats to paint a different picture is meaningless. The best way is to look at both killboards and find out for yourself, if that sort of thing pleases you.
In the meanwhile, i'll be flying around MH looking for 1v1s. :P
First of all, I rly like bydi and ugluuk. Ugluuk is one of the heros in eve in mye eyes. (used to get insperation by watching his vids).
But even I greaty agree that pvp should be fun, and it should be small non cap gangs pew pewing having fun agains each other in well balanced fights, I kinda lost faith in that a long time ago.
Its longer and longer between u find such fights as more and more ppl get more and more cynical about the whole pvp thingy.
Ppl want kills, and as few losses as possible. Even its annyoing ppl blob u, its kinda what u got in eve atm.
Even I rather would see equal fleets and such, u cant stop your own allinace m8 from wanting to join in fighting with u, when u report a gang ect. u want to deal as much dmg as possible and have as good stats as possible.
Even its sad, its the hard reality. I rly doesnt find many ppl that pvp just for the sake of fun anymore, its either ideologi or territorial warfare, where u aint intersted in much besides killing as many ppl as possible, losing as little as possible.
Ofc u might get some fun in there and have a great time together, but...not to be rude, its rly no point complaining about been blobbed. the lag sux, but besides that brining the blob is eve....I think. sadly enough.
Its like complaining USA been noobies for brining too many men when they nucke some small country.
the whole 1vs1 thingy is great, but its a lost chase.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Volition Cult
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.01.19 14:39:00 -
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You really can't blame an alliance for using whatever tools they have at hand to to damage to their enemies. BYDI has dropped capitals on my corporation multiple times now (and spanked us a few times) when we have never used a capital against them ourselves and were only looking for small gang pew pew. I am not sure how you can fault Foundation for using assets they have worked hard on developing for just this sort of circumstance. My corporation does not fault BYDI for dropping four capitals on our 10 man gang as that is what you have available to you, and it is your right to use them in any manner you deem appropriate. You can't ask people you are at war with the pull punches, and you should expect them to attempt to knock you out at every given opportunity.
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Bailian Moxtain
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.19 15:24:00 -
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have fun uggie, love you big time <3
goes for u too crazy tasty 
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.19 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Crazy Tasty on 19/01/2008 15:55:02
Originally by: Alazais
This demonstrates the nature of killboards and friends, since on our campaign against you we have 66% efficiency, which is outstanding for a larger entity fighting a smaller one (who can pick targets and avoid the FCs).
You actually have a 28% efficiency vs Bydi. Obviously the only reason the 66% exists is RUIN losing a few of their caps (No Bydi cap has ever been lost). Even with the RUIN cap loses, ISK value of your loses is getting close. As you said though, you can mix and match stats on a KB to your liking any time, which is why the OP contained Bydi vs FDN only stats also.
/me touches Bail.
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Space Chutney
Minmatar
Wildlands Heavy Technologies
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Space Chutney on 19/01/2008 16:23:12
You threw capitals at us and lost them. It was not coincidence they happened to be there with you guys.  Have to say though, using another corporation so it doesnt count for BYDI is entirely genius but doesnt make the loss any less substaintial; your "friends" will not be fielding those ships against us again.
And what do you expect? You guys are extremely skilled solo and small gang pilots. If you weren't performing very well, then your reputation would be entirely undeserved; you are outperfoming a less-efficient alliance who have a much lower average skill than yourselves. This isnt rocket science it is how the game works. We aren't expecting win based on efficiency, we dont need to add corporations or alliances to our campaign just to make nice statistics we are not going to start crying about it.
You cannot complain that we throw our capitals at you, just because ours have our name on them rather than someone elses.
Lastly, stop expecting us to come to you for fights.
EDIT: Awox, stfu. That is all.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.01.19 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk
There has been a overwhelming interest from people in Molden Heat
I'm not sure if that was intended or not . . .
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Lord Maldoror
Fairlight Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 16:27:00 -
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The thing is that we live in GW and this fight is in MH, two different regions. So we need to distinguish between 'core' fighting and 'peripheral' fighting. When you do that you'll see that FDN and BYDI basically operate the same way, as do most other alliances and corps:
For FDN:
Our 'core' fighting was against Veritas, Church and friends. This contained numerous capital battles but also some fantastic 'straight fights' against the faces we engaged day in and day out. For example, a few times Dreamworks (one of the enemy FCs) asked us to offline our regular cap alts and we did; he did the same and we had some great fights with all the nuances of remote rep chains, ecm sub-battles, etc.
Fighting in MH is 'peripheral' fighting against people we don't necessarily know. It's a waste of flying that far if the hostiles just dock up, as often happens, so cyno-bait is sometimes tempting. It's not our bread and butter pvp, it's a side issue so one is more likely to drop a cap and get it done with.
For BYDI:
Your 'core' fighting, the fights you are looking for - correct me if I'm wrong - are the same ones we look for, on a scale matching your corp, i.e. similar size gangs duking it out in a slug fest, 1v1s, etc.
Your 'peripheral' fighting is when you camp a gate with 10 guys and a hauler jumps in (since you pirate, you'll gank him). Yes, you blobbed him technically, but it was a side-issue, not your bread and butter fight that makes the evening tick, so you thought nothing of using ten ships to do it.
I think this is the reality of combat in Eve and we need to accept it. Our apples fight your oranges, to mix metaphors :) Our core guys and your core guys actually look for the same cool fights but we do so in different places.
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.19 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
You really can't blame an alliance for using whatever tools they have at hand to to damage to their enemies.
people claiming to be pvpers and living for the fight, dropping motherships on a few cruisers - is what i think is pathetic.
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Aoki Shinya
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Posted - 2008.01.19 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
You really can't blame an alliance for using whatever tools they have at hand to to damage to their enemies.
people claiming to be pvpers and living for the fight, dropping motherships on a few cruisers - is what i think is pathetic.
People who ***** and complain about other people playing Eve as a whole when they are only interested in a small part of it are ******* ******s, you are a ******* ******.
This is a very complex game and that is why it includes capitals. If this was a fit-your-spaceship and fight evenly matched gangs game it would be a completely different game and every fight you had would be a "good fight." Unfortunately, not many people would play that game. They play EVE because of the nuanced interplay between different game elements, as well as the interaction between dramatically different kinds of players. A smaller PvP corp dec'ing an alliance like in this situation is one example... and the OP's excessive emphasis on killboard numbers and evenly matched fights speaks volumes of how shallow his understanding is of the true beauty of what makes Eve "fun." MAXSuicide is equally ********. Like in almost every other online game, he is one of those people who like to complain about something being cheap, pathetic or dishonorable when that is only the case in his narrowly defined bubble of what the game should be like. Meanwhile, the reality of the game, in the sense of how the developers intended it, is already being played by the people he is *****ing about. STFU dude.
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Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.19 17:53:00 -
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Foundation is a big alliance..Many people either hate or love them and contact us because they see the war dec..
Lately there has been up to 4-5 convo`s from i log in and until i log off by people interested in info on FDN, their tactics and so on..I dont like to loose focus from my pvp by talking and i dont like to be rude by blocking people..
So i send them to this topic instead for some good reading on what our experiences are..
This is a week too week update where the first week was great in our eyes and the second week has been crap with mulitple capitals being dropped on as small targets as recon ships and BC..
I have not called it unfair, not called it blobbing and i have not called them carebears..
I just simply stated that it has been a change of direction from FDN and they want to fight that way..
Nothing else..
If you see this as whining go read an older Ugluuk topic..
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.19 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Aoki Shinya
Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
You really can't blame an alliance for using whatever tools they have at hand to to damage to their enemies.
people claiming to be pvpers and living for the fight, dropping motherships on a few cruisers - is what i think is pathetic.
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Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.19 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Alazais
This demonstrates the nature of killboards and friends, since on our campaign against you we have 66% efficiency, which is outstanding for a larger entity fighting a smaller one
You have 29% efficiency against Bydi and 6 losses that aren`t posted..
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Khalid Zhee
Fairlight Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk
You have 29% efficiency against Bydi and 6 losses that aren`t posted..
FDN has 66% efficiency against your forces, which is indulgently high considering the smaller entity can hit and run in a region we don't even live in :) Remember, to fight us you gang with Reunion.
This is the nature of killboards; for example if I joined a multi-alliance gang against Bob or someone, as the sole FDN pilot, I could get on 70 killmails and die only a few times, even if we lost each fight overall. That would give a 90%+ ratio against them, which of course is nonsense :)
Even FDN has mixed gangs, though less so than BYDI, so our ratios aren't perfect either. But no mistake, I would have expected to have a very low k/d in this kind away-from-home fight; 66% is very high (re-read the alazais report above for why).
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Pride NL
Momentum.
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:05:00 -
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See Cyno? Bail. Costs them not you. You should know this Ugluuk 
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Khalid Zhee
Originally by: Ugluuk
You have 29% efficiency against Bydi and 6 losses that aren`t posted..
FDN has 66% efficiency against your forces, which is indulgently high considering the smaller entity can hit and run in a region we don't even live in :) Remember, to fight us you gang with Reunion.
This is the nature of killboards; for example if I joined a multi-alliance gang against Bob or someone, as the sole FDN pilot, I could get on 70 killmails and die only a few times, even if we lost each fight overall. That would give a 90%+ ratio against them, which of course is nonsense :)
Even FDN has mixed gangs, though less so than BYDI, so our ratios aren't perfect either. But no mistake, I would have expected to have a very low k/d in this kind away-from-home fight; 66% is very high (re-read the alazais report above for why).
If you feel like adding in anyone who has ever gangs with us, go ahead, however, you're missing quite a few more corps that could possibly boost your percentage some.
The war was Bydi vs FDN, you added RUIN after the fact when you happened to get a few of their caps. If you want to talk stats vs all involved parties that 143 to 32 and 8.1b to 2.4b doesn't look so hot for you either does it? As a matter of fact, you'd still be in the negative on that even with the cap kills.
To keep the stats relatively straight forward we can take the main protagonist from either side, FDN and Bydi, and compare:
61 to 24 by our board and 53 to 24 (29% efficiency) by yours.
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Khalid Zhee
Fairlight Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.19 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Crazy Tasty
If you feel like adding in anyone who has ever gangs with us, go ahead, however, you're missing quite a few more corps that could possibly boost your percentage some.
The war was Bydi vs FDN, you added RUIN after the fact when you happened to get a few of their caps. If you want to talk stats vs all involved parties that 143 to 32 and 8.1b to 2.4b doesn't look so hot for you either does it? As a matter of fact, you'd still be in the negative on that even with the cap kills.
To keep the stats relatively straight forward we can take the main protagonist from either side, FDN and Bydi, and compare:
61 to 24 by our board and 53 to 24 (29% efficiency) by yours.
The campaign on our board (66% to us, at the time of writing) isn't perfect but it's the most accurate stat.
You can't count anyone you wardec in your stats against us - to arrive at your overall figure you're including all kinds of wardec'd parties. Well, you could just as well dec Bob or RA and include them then. You have to look at the regular composition of the actual gangs that fight - and Renunion are there in bulk for you, and also doing a lion's share of the damage (not just a gang member who tagged along).
If we were fighting in high-sec we could have 'pure gang' fights, but many of the pvp'ers from both sets can't even go there, so it's a mute point.
This is how killboards work.
Tbh, the isk amounts involved are so low it's a bit odd that this merits a thread at all. It's not a whine thread, you say - okay, we accept that- but if it's a battle report thread, the only even slightly CAOD scale fight is the one in the Alazais report (which we won) and we certainly wouldn't have mentioned it here, even if it had been much bigger (I hope) :)
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Rex Deus
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.19 23:28:00 -
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just to confirm what crazy said, this appeared on FDN forums by Pitou on Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:07 am
Originally by: "Pitou"
Originally by: "Morium"
tbh, I'm utterly amazed we have a positive efficiency against BYDI. I, personally, probably wouldn't have bothered put it on the kb as a campaign but now it's there that's fine.
As it seems they have friends involved in this war that are a part of their empire war tactics, maybe add them to this mini war campaign ?
the skirmish in question, timed at 06:26 - 06:47 on 2008-01-11:
http://www.foundati0n.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11549
and i'm failing to see the BYDI pilots involved??
its a shame we ended up adding the rest of you NAP's to the war as we didn't really need the kills to help the stats but then its a shame you felt you needed to save face and add our friends to your kills.
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Rex Deus
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.19 23:34:00 -
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ok stats from your boards:
Campaign details - Oh No's! Beyond Divinity War Decced Us!
Start date: 2008-01-06 End date: Active
Kills: 40 Losses: 59
Damage done (ISK): 6193M Damage received (ISK): 3147.46M
Runtime: 13 days Efficiency: 66.3%
40 Ships killed (6193M ISK) 59 Ships lost (3147.46M ISK)
Target corp - Beyond Divinity Inc 24 Ships killed (1248M ISK) 57 Ships lost (3072.96M ISK) Efficiency: 28.88%
Target corp - The Reunion 15 Ships killed (3995M ISK) 12 Ships lost (952.5M ISK) Efficiency: 80.75%
Target corp - Zinx Technologies LLC 1 Ships killed (950M ISK) 4 Ships lost (251M ISK) Efficiency: 79.1%
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Garion Thorongmor
The Reunion
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Posted - 2008.01.19 23:40:00 -
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This is a bit long, and a bit of a rant.
Originally by: Khalid Zhee
FDN has 66% efficiency against your forces, which is indulgently high considering the smaller entity can hit and run in a region we don't even live in :) Remember, to fight us you gang with Reunion.
BYDI was kicking your butts in well before The Reunion moved into MH. We did not know BYDI before moving here, and actually had a couple small engagements with them before we decided to work together.
More importantly, you didn't add RUIN to the BYDI campaign until AFTER we lost 2 capitals to you, and we had been fighting with them against you for weeks. It's rather sad that in order to even out your killboard stats, you add us into an ongoing campaign only after you finally get some good kills on us.
I agree with the people saying that an alliance should use any means necessary, and whatever hardware they own to beat their enemies, however there comes a time when it begins to work against you in terms of your image.
There has been more than enough times, that we have attacked one of their BS's, for well over a minute before they dropped a cyno, and pulled in a couple of carriers.
This tells us 2 things.
It tells us that almost ALL FND ships carry a cyno gen and fuel at all times, and even if there is no prior setup, he still has a minute to gang up and get undocked a couple of carrier pilots to come to his aid. This will happen even if you 1 vs 1 a BS. No whining here, just pathetic in our eyes.
If you look at FND killboards, you will notice a trend if you click on their BS kills. Seems 80% or more of their BS kills have carriers on the killmail. Would be one thing if these were fleet fights, but they are not. This percentage is just a guess, but it's a close guess. In my opinion, this is NOT something an alliance of 800 pilots should be proud of in my opinion.
It also tells us that they are wreckless with their capital ships. Many times they have jumped just the Nyx or just 2 carriers in on us with NO other caps or support fleet. If they continue actions like this, I can guarantee that RUIN will return the favor for our 2 capital losses.
The initial cap-free fights with FND that Ugluuk speaks of sounded like they were a lot of fun. I'm saddened that we were not here for those fights.
Would be nice to get some cap-free fights with FND to see how good some of their pilots are, but so far RUIN has not been in a single engagement with FND of any size, where a cyno was not dropped. They will pull their mom, as well as multiple carriers on a lone BS.
Obviously FND even with their superior numbers could not do anything to stop BYDI, so I guess resorting to making the cyno gen a mandatory fitting for all FND pilots is the best they can do. Hey whatever works, use it I guess, but please stop smacking in local about which ships of ours you've killed, because all it does is make us LOL.
I would just like to finish with two addition things, a bit off topic from the rest of this post, as I think I've said all their is to say about FND.
Our pilots have the utmost respect for BYDI. They are all excellent pvp'rs, some of the best you'll find in EvE, and more importantly they are are great group of people and we have a lot of fun flying side by side with them here in MH.
Also much respect and mad props to The Volition Cult alliance and Nocturnal Legion alliance for bringing some fun fights. Keep em coming!
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Space Chutney
Minmatar
Wildlands Heavy Technologies
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.20 00:40:00 -
[35]
How do you guys sit in chat together with such large ego's?
Like I've explained already, when we saw the war'dec no-one with a clue thought we'd win a war of efficiency, So what face are we trying to save here? This thread shows two things to everyone: 1) You like to complain when we dont field nice gangs for you to play with. 2) You really, really, really like your killboard stats.
We dont sit there ****ing our KB off to get to sleep at night, and Rex Deus stop talking outta your arse I've already talked with Ugluuk about 'people who die to much'. 
gf
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Malken
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.20 00:56:00 -
[36]
tbh ugluuk always have complained on these forums when it havent been exactly as in his visions or if he by some remote chance have been wronged in some way that only he can see.
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Khalid Zhee
Fairlight Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.20 02:34:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Khalid Zhee on 20/01/2008 02:35:53
Originally by: Rex Deus
ok stats from your boards:
Campaign details - Oh No's! Beyond Divinity War Decced Us!
Start date: 2008-01-06 End date: Active
Kills: 40 Losses: 59
Damage done (ISK): 6193M Damage received (ISK): 3147.46M
Runtime: 13 days Efficiency: 66.3%
Yup (it's FDN's efficiency quoted, for those not following the thread).
And remember something important about how killboards work:
Cats take on the joint alliance of dogs and squirrels. Both field 10 ships.
Cats kill 6 total, 3 dogs and 3 squirrels. The Dogs/Squirrels killed 4 cats and the rest escape - cats hold the field, killed more and won the fight.
So on the dogs' killboard, even though they lost, they have 4 kills for 3 losses and can claim 75% efficiency.
And on the squirrel killbaord, even though they lost, they have 4 kills for 3 losses and can claim 75% efficiency.
But on the cat's killboard, they killed 6 and lost 4 against the dogs + squirrels combined, so claim 67% efficiency.
Only the latter is really representative of the fight, though statistics are merely statistics.
But really, this is a very low key 'war' for both of us and has little to do with the bread and butter pvp of either party.
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Dahin
Maza Nostra
oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.20 02:47:00 -
[38]
I doubt we got dreads anywhere close to molden heath, but cmon man.
There should be people lining up to get in on a mom killmail.
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Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.20 06:07:00 -
[39]
Efficiency is just a way to get arguments going..It doesn`t show the whole picture..
FDN see the stats against Bydi as 66% because of the capital kills on RUIN..
BYDI see ourselfes as satisfied with the stats vs FDN and very happy with the stats vs their friends..
We have only added those we have seen in a FDN gang on killmail vs us and 150kills to 32 losses is good..
Both sides are right..Yes FDN have 66% the way they see it..We have 83% eff the way we see it..
But does it matter? No
The stats is a way to give people a little peak on how it is going..
Is there being people killed? How many targets is there? Where do they kill most?
Efficiency has never won a war..
Bydi will keep on doing what we know best..PVP the way we want too and we hope FDN meet us in more fights like they did the first week just for the fun of it..
But they cant force us to bring capitals and we cant force them to leave theirs behind..
There has been a good communication between us and it will continue that way..
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.20 06:52:00 -
[40]
More pew, less post, lets settle this in game.
Stats isn't what the OP was about anyway.
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Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.20 08:45:00 -
[41]
I'd have more respect for FDN if it weren't for things like this
and this (see comments)
Sending a mothership on a solo BC and multiple caps after a solo Recon?
Sure, it's just a game and you win however you can, but these guys actually talk smack and tell us to "come out and fight like men" when 5 of us dock in the face of their 20 man blob, who no doubt all have cynos fitted and 10 caps standing by.
Sure I'm an evil pirate and I'll gank a noobship given the chance, but I don't smacktalk the poor fella for docking up when he's got no chance in hell of winning.
I guarantee you guys, that Nyx is gonna die, and I'm gonna be there for it. Then I will take Mythral's corpse and have my way with it. Then I'll pose it in nasty positions with Valdor's corpse and take pictures.
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Awox
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2008.01.20 10:01:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Kruel
I'd have more respect for FDN if it weren't for things like this
and this (see comments)
Sending a mothership on a solo BC and multiple caps after a solo Recon?
Sure, it's just a game and you win however you can, but these guys actually talk smack and tell us to "come out and fight like men" when 5 of us dock in the face of their 20 man blob, who no doubt all have cynos fitted and 10 caps standing by.
Sure I'm an evil pirate and I'll gank a noobship given the chance, but I don't smacktalk the poor fella for docking up when he's got no chance in hell of winning.
I guarantee you guys, that Nyx is gonna die, and I'm gonna be there for it. Then I will take Mythral's corpse and have my way with it. Then I'll pose it in nasty positions with Valdor's corpse and take pictures.
I'd have more respect for FDN if they didn't take bribes from chinese ISK farmers.
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Hilly22222
Tarnak inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.20 11:23:00 -
[43]
yea, when i was in FDN there were always isk farmers in BRT- ....always....and the alliance seemed to condone them
Quote:
Azzloran > ever heard of a drake? you wont like them when they decloak on you"
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Space Chutney
Minmatar
Wildlands Heavy Technologies
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.20 11:46:00 -
[44]
Yea loads of ISK farmers in FDN and our area. We are getting real rich off em.
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The Templariarch
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Posted - 2008.01.22 14:45:00 -
[45]
<0 Ugluuk give`em hell m8, ill fly with you anytime. Best FC in EVE imo ! p.s Malken go pour me some more whine, it still tastes good
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Diicc Tater
Aggressive Tendencies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:51:00 -
[46]
Apart from the name of the Campaign on the KB of FND there is nothing wrong with it. The date seems Ok etc.
Anyone can just see the finer details by clicking it and see the 28% FND efficiency agains BYDI.
Always fun to see others fighting them.
Keep up the good work Ug. Just gotta find the right way to get at them.
Call me sometime, we miss ya.
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Khalid Zhee
Fairlight Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.22 17:52:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Khalid Zhee on 22/01/2008 17:52:39
Originally by: Diicc Tater
Apart from the name of the Campaign on the KB of FND there is nothing wrong with it. The date seems Ok etc.
Anyone can just see the finer details by clicking it and see the 28% FND efficiency agains BYDI.
Always fun to see others fighting them.
That's like quoting the Fairlight corp efficiency against -v- at 80-something percent, when in reality of course we fly alliance gangs against you, not corp gangs :)
The campaign is accurate against BYDI and friends at 66, 65, whatever percent; the sides are determined by who makes up the gangs.
It's also entirely boring btw, and small fry to the fight we had against you guys, church, eternal rising, talionis, etc.
How's Light Darkness doing? We haven't seen his replacement, Blue Adept, since we popped his Thanatos in Uanzin.
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Diicc Tater
Aggressive Tendencies
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.01.22 22:59:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Khalid Zhee
Edited by: Khalid Zhee on 22/01/2008 17:52:39
Originally by: Diicc Tater
Apart from the name of the Campaign on the KB of FND there is nothing wrong with it. The date seems Ok etc.
Anyone can just see the finer details by clicking it and see the 28% FND efficiency agains BYDI.
Always fun to see others fighting them.
That's like quoting the Fairlight corp efficiency against -v- at 80-something percent, when in reality of course we fly alliance gangs against you, not corp gangs :)
The campaign is accurate against BYDI and friends at 66, 65, whatever percent; the sides are determined by who makes up the gangs.
It's also entirely boring btw, and small fry to the fight we had against you guys, church, eternal rising, talionis, etc.
How's Light Darkness doing? We haven't seen his replacement, Blue Adept, since we popped his Thanatos in Uanzin.
Yes, we are on the same page then. As I said it looks ok.
Blue left with his corp a while ago (didn't know he lost his carrier, was he in V then?). Not heard anything from LD but I guess he'll be back when he can or feels like it. Untill then we'll keep you occupied as best we can.
And to stay on topic, any tactic may seem boring to atleast one part of a scirmish. As long as the other half has fun, there is little to do about it tho.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 23:12:00 -
[49]
I don't see a problem here. If you're working with RUIN, then they're going to be adding to your kills, and considered part of your losses.
I admit though, all this talk of Foundation throwing capitals at anyone and everyone really makes me want to head that way though :)
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Furelise
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:31:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Furelise on 24/01/2008 04:31:47
Originally by: Mistress Suffering
I don't see a problem here. If you're working with RUIN, then they're going to be adding to your kills, and considered part of your losses.
I admit though, all this talk of Foundation throwing capitals at anyone and everyone really makes me want to head that way though :)
Make it a 2nd MoM kill for Einherjar lol, this is what happens when the cyno pilot forgot to carry enough fuel
http://www.foundati0n.com/killboard/index.php?a=kill_related&kll_id=11039
Ask anyone who has fought against/with FDN and they'll all say cap drops are their main tactic in combat, even vs nanos lol
http://www.foundati0n.com/killboard/index.php?a=kill_related&kll_id=11608
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Simariliia
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 07:21:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Simariliia on 24/01/2008 07:21:49
Originally by: Mistress Suffering
I don't see a problem here. If you're working with RUIN, then they're going to be adding to your kills, and considered part of your losses.
I admit though, all this talk of Foundation throwing capitals at anyone and everyone really makes me want to head that way though :)
signed.
even thought as Isee it a totaly valid tactic hotdropping caps on every man and his sister, u gonna get burned heavly if u do it agains a enemy that can drop equal/bigger cap size back. and it kinda sucks if u cant fight without cap support then.
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Lord Maldoror
Fairlight Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:44:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Simariliia
signed.
even thought as Isee it a totaly valid tactic hotdropping caps on every man and his sister, u gonna get burned heavly if u do it agains a enemy that can drop equal/bigger cap size back. and it kinda sucks if u cant fight without cap support then.
Your D00M. corp paid us a visit over Christmas; actually, it was supposed to be Christmas but you left mid-December. From McGin's bio:
"D00M's Christmas Vacation To Egbinger And Great Wildlands is Here Happy Holidays. See You Soon ;)"
Regardless, the only time I can recall hotdropping you was to kill one of your Archon carriers (the only cap ship kill for either side) and we had a couple nice non-cap fights, including one on bvip gate in Egbinger. I don't recall us losing any gang fights but then as you say, it was just a corp holiday for fun. And nice scraps, no smack.
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Simariliia
Spartan Industries
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:17:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Simariliia on 24/01/2008 16:17:16
Originally by: Lord Maldoror
Originally by: Simariliia
signed.
even thought as Isee it a totaly valid tactic hotdropping caps on every man and his sister, u gonna get burned heavly if u do it agains a enemy that can drop equal/bigger cap size back. and it kinda sucks if u cant fight without cap support then.
Your D00M. corp paid us a visit over Christmas; actually, it was supposed to be Christmas but you left mid-December. From McGin's bio:
"D00M's Christmas Vacation To Egbinger And Great Wildlands is Here Happy Holidays. See You Soon ;)"
Regardless, the only time I can recall hotdropping you was to kill one of your Archon carriers (the only cap ship kill for either side) and we had a couple nice non-cap fights, including one on bvip gate in Egbinger. I don't recall us losing any gang fights but then as you say, it was just a corp holiday for fun. And nice scraps, no smack.
Im not in doom.
dont rly think I was even in tri at that time.
KAPOWVBOM |
Is forporn
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 22:52:00 -
[54]
K/D Ratio!!! *runs away*
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KTOZ
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.25 13:22:00 -
[55]
Gl to both sides. Since we moved to Syndicate i really missed to fight FDN... I dont care who was outnumbred or when but we had some really good fights for more then a year.
(ahh and i just found 1 of your guys in a mission around syndicate & placid and nicely ransommed him just for the old days :p)
o/
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Alazais
Fairlight Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.25 16:02:00 -
[56]
Originally by: KTOZ
Edited by: KTOZ on 25/01/2008 14:07:26
Gl to both sides. Since we moved to Syndicate i really missed to fight FDN... I dont care who was outnumbred or when but we had some really good fights for more then a year. Hope to fight you again soon.
o/
Win or lose, it was always a pleasure squaring off with you, KTOZ. It actually feels odd having a fight in GW now and not having KTOZ decloak in that falcon ;) Good luck in Syndicate, I know you'll have some great fights there & you'll make a name for yourself there in no time :)
o7
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Nhi'Khuna
Strife Mercenaries Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.26 09:08:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Nhi''Khuna on 26/01/2008 09:09:57
After having seen the tactics of FDN in action I'm all for supporting BYDI in their endeavor. Get as many of those suckers as you can and we'll keep plugging them too.
We approached them under diplomatic auspices at first but their diplos were grossly innacurate (or downright untruthful) about their true situation in the area when we were looking to apply for membership. After we learned of their attempt to use us as a 'meat-shield' without informing us at all of the situation we decided to set them red.
Tsk, tsk.
Since we've been raiding them ever since we got to GW. Sure, it's a tactics and all is fair in love and war, but one should call a spade a spade. When you are blobbing at the rate and extent to which FDN does, especially with Capitals for every tiny engagement it's simply not a question of pvp skill nor any kind of combat prowess, it's simply a question of numbers. FDN got numbers, from what I've seen, not much else.
And like the Russians in WWII it seems like FDN is intent upon using it's numbers to it's advantage, which as I've said before is a tactic and a valid one at that.
What I take exceptions with, are pilots claiming that they have any kind of combat prowess because they WTF ganked a few pilots against their hordes. Doesn't take much to mash the buttons once you've got a bubble dropped.
I do take it as a compliment, however, to see the response to our recon/stealth bomber gangs. :) It's nice to know that 5 guys can get 50 into a right frenzy.
Good luck BYDI.
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.01.26 09:09:00 -
[58]
Quit *****ing.
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Serotta Ortot
Equilibrium Inc.
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.26 10:10:00 -
[59]
It's always surprising to see certain alliances / factions complain about the use of capital ships against them in combat. The question is why though? Let's look at two scenario's.
1.) You engage FDN, they drop capitals...stuff goes *boom*, lots of pew pew shooty shooty...tactically superior force wins the engagement...and make no mistake FDN has lost carriers before, but keep using them.
2.) Small recon gang (say a few Vaga's, Rapiers, Arazu etc) ..you take 8-10 players, go to FDN space, and gank a ratter in a Raven with PvE fit...technically that is a blob (same as the FDN carrier drop), but you are using the current assets at your disposal to win, because you are tactically the superior force in that scenario.
Why then whine because the opposing faction (FDN in this case) is using the best assets at their disposal to win an engagement? People whine about "fair fights", yet what chance does the ratter in a Raven have against a 10 man Hac / Recon gang? 
Some food for thought, fire up the grey matter and think about it before flaming
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.26 20:47:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Serotta Ortot
It's always surprising to see certain alliances / factions complain about the use of capital ships against them in combat. The question is why though? Let's look at two scenario's.
1.) You engage FDN, they drop capitals...stuff goes *boom*, lots of pew pew shooty shooty...tactically superior force wins the engagement...and make no mistake FDN has lost carriers before, but keep using them.
Imo, if you developed your pilots solo and small gang abilities more I think it would be a much greater benefit to you then hot dropping caps. Good example would be last night in Odd. We were fully ready to engage FDN + neutrals even though outnumbered 2 to 1, until the capitols were brought in. As people have said, valid tactic, but you only got 1 BS kill with the combined cap + support fleet (2+ carriers and around 20 to 25 support), whereas with us fighting 2 to 1 odds your support fleet alone could have gotten much more.
Just my opinion though. This thread is long overdue for its death to.
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Zathi Shaitan
Minmatar
Illiteracy Combatants
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Posted - 2008.01.27 03:21:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Ugluuk
8 bill dmg done and 2,3 bill recieved..
recEIved. Typical illiteracy.
Regarding your report: suck it up.
It's just a tactic.
If you hate it so much, do the same. Or pay to put a "i will give isk for 1vs1s and fair fights" ad in a billboard.
And good luck with that.
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Ackaroth
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.27 09:50:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: Ackaroth
Not sure if old mate Noobjuice is still among ya,
No mate Noob is in OMNOR, still flying bs with tech I guns
Arg, my mistake.
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Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.27 14:08:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Zathi Shaitan
Originally by: Ugluuk
8 bill dmg done and 2,3 bill recieved..
recEIved. Typical illiteracy.
Regarding your report: suck it up.
It's just a tactic.
If you hate it so much, do the same. Or pay to put a "i will give isk for 1vs1s and fair fights" ad in a billboard.
And good luck with that.
And now it is your turn to talk Norwegian..
You try to act like your brain produces cells but let me explain to you what a report is..
A REPORT:
A report is for those interested in the subject and it tells what has happened and in what order it happened..
This report is showing how FDN has been to fight over 2 weeks and if you had more skills than literacy you would understood that..
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The Gank
VMF-214 Blacksheep
Star Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.01.28 00:42:00 -
[64]
Nice report dude flysafe
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April Ethereal
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.28 02:47:00 -
[65]
Originally by: The Gank
Nice report dude flysafe
VMF! Good to see you guys are still around. 
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Finderup Soren
Caldari
The Ankou
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:02:00 -
[66]
For those interested in HOW accurate "ugluuk" normally is about posting "losses" u might wanna check:
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/525251/page/4#119 "It will get funny from post 116"
This has nothing to do with either Ankou or The Reckoning. This is simply just a "friendly" person posting on the CAOD.
Thanks,
Soren
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Ugluuk
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:32:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Finderup Soren
For those interested in HOW accurate "ugluuk" normally is about posting "losses" u might wanna check:
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/525251/page/4#119 "It will get funny from post 116"
This has nothing to do with either Ankou or The Reckoning. This is simply just a "friendly" person posting on the CAOD.
Thanks,
Soren
Originally by: Finderup Soren
For those interested in HOW accurate "ugluuk" normally is about posting "losses" u might wanna check:
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/525251/page/4#119 "It will get funny from post 116"
This has nothing to do with either Ankou or The Reckoning. This is simply just a "friendly" person posting on the CAOD.
Thanks,
Soren
I remember you guys..The corp that invited to a clean good fight without capitals..
And then cynoed in a nyx and Chimera when we changed from the bait nighthawk to the phoon who was going down..
So i hurted your guys feelings by removing the killmail from the killboard people was looking at(bydi kb)..
If you are so proud of killing Ugluuk that you gotta mention it in several topics over the next year i feel sad for you..
Btw, if you want to destroy my reputation you are 4 years too late boy..
Since all losses against Foundation is posted i suppose it is because unlike you they are honorable opponents who has not yet acted dishonorable in any way..
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Nocturnal Avenger
The Ankou
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:47:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Ugluuk
[If you are so proud of killing Ugluuk that you gotta mention it in several topics over the next year i feel sad for you..
We didn't really care about killing you to be honest. Didn't know you before - haven't seen you since.
It is, however, somewhat funny to point out that you are able to deem losses unworthy to post
I guess we feel sorry for you actually.
GL in the war and try not to let your losses upset you.
- Carebear Pirate - |
Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.28 15:58:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger
Originally by: Ugluuk
[If you are so proud of killing Ugluuk that you gotta mention it in several topics over the next year i feel sad for you..
We didn't really care about killing you to be honest. Didn't know you before - haven't seen you since.
If you don't care why have you followed him around for, what, over a year now smacking on the forums? Some people get a real hard on for Ug I guess, must be that shiny dome.
The linked post is kinda funny, couple pages of you and Finerup crying over 2 not posted mail. While Bydi does indeed post 99% of kills/losses (some always leak through), those were not posted just to get you riled, and judging from the tears in that post and the fact the been swinging from Ugs nuts about it for over a year, I'd say it worked.
This thread is crazy off topic now though, and needs to die.
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The Lamentress
Glenn Danzig's Mother
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Posted - 2008.01.29 15:00:00 -
[70]
Go FDN!!!
Originally by: Monsier Aragorn
We come from CAOD to watch things here and quite frankly, no wonder why you folks don't dare to post there
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Inertial
Blood Reavers
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Posted - 2008.01.29 16:53:00 -
[71]
I used to be in FDN, until early January (HI GUYS! Don't kill me because I am pirate now!). FDN have never really committed to Empire gangs (I can remember having been in two or three gangs in a total of two-three months, while I was in around ten-twenty 0.0 gangs), every now and again a gang will go into Empire and look for targets, but in the end there are much more targets in GW. As for dropping caps into small battles, FDN are often the ones taking the risk. I have often seen FDN drop Carriers with 20-30 in support, outside the M-M gate while M-M and EO2 got around 70-80 -V- players in total. All in all FDN got awesome FC's that more often than not bring victory, and are awesome guys.
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Hemroid Diddller
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.01.29 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Inertial
I used to be in FDN, until early January (HI GUYS! Don't kill me because I am pirate now!). FDN have never really committed to Empire gangs (I can remember having been in two or three gangs in a total of two-three months, while I was in around ten-twenty 0.0 gangs), every now and again a gang will go into Empire and look for targets, but in the end there are much more targets in GW. As for dropping caps into small battles, FDN are often the ones taking the risk. I have often seen FDN drop Carriers with 20-30 in support, outside the M-M gate while M-M and EO2 got around 70-80 -V- players in total. All in all FDN got awesome FC's that more often than not bring victory, and are awesome guys.
Im sorry did you just try and put in some of your own opinion on something you clearly know nothing about? Also did you just try and say that good fc's automatically hot drop capital ships on a non-capital fleet??!?!
Sir you really need to GTFO
(also ignore my horrible spelling)
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Alenar Rumanev
Minmatar
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.10 06:29:00 -
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A quick update. The war has been dropped (waste of good isk really) and faildation attempted to ruin our fun in 0.0 tonight, with predictable results.
Linky to Crime and Punishment post
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Khalid Zhee
Fairlight Corp
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.02.10 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Alenar Rumanev
A quick update. The war has been dropped (waste of good isk really)
lol, we thought it was because of that trap where you KNEW valdor's carrier on the gate was bait and you still went and lost your battleships (again) :) But if you say it's the war cost, fair enough..
Whereas you guys always run in MH, Long Distance Serial Killers bring it. One day they lose 3 dreads putting a tower into reinforced but the next day they are back at the same tower, bringing the fight and getting kills.
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