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Hooch Flux
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Boma Airaken Sheep.
Don't forget, Sheep with big guns!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:56:00 -
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Well I wasn't aware that there were Achura that were this displeased with the State, or this vocal about it, was all. A bit of a surprise, as I had you pegged as a State loyalist, but then again, life is full of surprises. ----- "I am prepared to meet my maker; whether my maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." |

Dex Nederland
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.01.22 12:17:00 -
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Boma is obviously an Achura nationalist.
Originally by: Dex Nederland Some nationalist Achura may take offense to being called Caldari since their ancestors did not inhabit Caldari Prime.
M. Ixiris it is easy to understand why you are not aware of the internal politics of the State. You are currently concerned with the toppling of an entire culture, must be taxing. How do you find time to keep up with the internal politics of the Federation, let alone the State?
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Malthros Zenobia
The Cold Wind Foundation
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Posted - 2008.01.22 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Boma Airaken Remember Andy, the Achura are NOT Caldari. We are tenants.
Caldari are not defined by their homeworld but by who they are.
The Achura who have worked endlessly in in the State are as much Caldari as any Deteis or Civire who they stand with. We were once simply defined by the blood in our veins, but now a more accurate description would be we are a single people defined by the blood we have given for ourselves and the greater good of our people.
Otherwise, you could say that a Deteis that wants to see the Amarr 'reclaim' the state, is more a Caldari than an Achuran that has devoted their life to the State and the People. Such a thought is utter nonsense.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:18:00 -
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Strictly speaking, Mr. Zenobia, the Achura are Caldari by nationality, but not by ethnicity. And most of us are content to be so.
It's true that the Achur culture is distinct from that of the Caldari, though, as with the ethnic Caldari, the structure of the State protects the Achur way of life. People like our Mr. Airaken will argue that the State stifles our way of life, instead, but you'd think if that were so that we'd have heard of this beyond a handful of capsuleers.
Aria Jenneth Director Ghost Festival
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Atomos Darksun
Havoc Inc Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ereka Nihil The plural of Caldari is Caldari, to get this topic righted again.
You would right this topic sooner than you could right the Caldari's spines on the back breaking pressure of Caldari Prime. ----- They've gone to PLAID!!
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.01.23 05:24:00 -
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I'd suggest you take the information on the public database regarding various inhabited worlds with a block of sodium chloride, Mr. Darksun. The same guide claims that the temperature on my homeworld, Saisio III, is 116 K, which should leave any (formerly) atmospheric carbon dioxide lying around on the ground in solid form.
Trust me, it isn't. Despite seventeen winters there, I've never thrown a dry ice ball at anyone.
I think some sort of virus or corruptive bug must have crept into the public database, and for some reason they've never gotten around to fixing it.
Aria Jenneth Director Ghost Festival
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longshots
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Posted - 2008.01.24 06:52:00 -
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in the old graphics there was a station with the Name
Caldarian Empire on it. So i would say the the pural form is Caldarian.
Hope this helps
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:53:00 -
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I always thought the plural of Caldari was Committee.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.01.24 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth I'd suggest you take the information on the public database regarding various inhabited worlds with a block of sodium chloride, Mr. Darksun. The same guide claims that the temperature on my homeworld, Saisio III, is 116 K, which should leave any (formerly) atmospheric carbon dioxide lying around on the ground in solid form.
Trust me, it isn't. Despite seventeen winters there, I've never thrown a dry ice ball at anyone.
I think some sort of virus or corruptive bug must have crept into the public database, and for some reason they've never gotten around to fixing it.
Aria Jenneth Director Ghost Festival
According to the shipboard computer, Intaki has no habitable planets (or any planets that even look like habitable planets) and orbits a dim star - which is entirely untrue. Additionally, Gallente Prime is listed as having a temperature of 46 Kelvin, and Caldari Prime as 26K. Someone seriously needs to take a look at CONCORD's cartography department. As they clear out their desks. ----- "I am prepared to meet my maker; whether my maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me is another matter." |

Megumi Iwasaki
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.01.25 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Megumi Iwasaki on 25/01/2008 00:00:17
Originally by: Aria Jenneth Trust me, it isn't. Despite seventeen winters there, I've never thrown a dry ice ball at anyone.
I did a few years ago....though admittedly that was with the help of some equipment that I'd 'liberated' from school. 
As for the topic under discussion, the plural is Caldari, the same as the singular. It's like the word 'fish,' being both descriptive of an individual or a group. One fish, two fish. One Caldari, two Caldari. QED.  ---
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Cikulisuy
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Posted - 2008.04.04 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Gaius Kador Funny
Gaius, have you suffered a serious clone mishap recently? All I see from you is one-word responses, or at the very most a couple of sentences. It makes you look even dumber than usual.
andreus, you are very keen to insult for no reason other than for the sake are you not? i think you have some hate issues my friend. this out of all will remain, they have lived and have tossed; so much of the game will be gain, though the gold and the dice have been lost. |

Lordus Mark
RDK Trusting Holders
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Posted - 2008.04.04 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador Dogs?
*Lordus releases a big laugh at the words of the Grand Inquisitor*
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Lordus Mark
RDK Trusting Holders
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Posted - 2008.04.04 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Lordus Mark on 04/04/2008 11:30:42
Originally by: Cikulisuy
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Gaius Kador Funny
Gaius, have you suffered a serious clone mishap recently? All I see from you is one-word responses, or at the very most a couple of sentences. It makes you look even dumber than usual.
andreus, you are very keen to insult for no reason other than for the sake are you not? i think you have some hate issues my friend.
Let it be. He fail to understand that great and wise mans can some up all in few words.
Thats something an Amarrian would see at a glance.
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Andreus Ixiris
Heretic Logistics DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lordus Mark Let it be. He fail to understand that great and wise mans can some up all in few words.
I may not be one of your, ahem, "great and wise mans". This as may be, but I can tell by this statement that neither are you. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics Dance Commander |

Lordus Mark
RDK Trusting Holders
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Posted - 2008.04.04 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Lordus Mark on 04/04/2008 13:56:05
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Lordus Mark Let it be. He fail to understand that great and wise mans can some up all in few words.
I may not be one of your, ahem, "great and wise mans". This as may be, but I can tell by this statement that neither are you.
Dog? 
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Andreus Ixiris
Heretic Logistics DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:17:00 -
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I've chewed others out for monosyllabic responses before, "Lordus". Allow me to assure you that you would be far from the first. Accusing others of having substandard intelligence rings kind of hollow without being able to enter into semi-intelligent discourse, or even spell basic words correctly. Even your Loyalist compatriots can muster the mental acuity to do that. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics Dance Commander |

Lordus Mark
RDK Trusting Holders
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Lordus Mark on 04/04/2008 16:39:35
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris I've chewed others out for monosyllabic responses before, "Lordus". Allow me to assure you that you would be far from the first. Accusing others of having substandard intelligence rings kind of hollow without being able to enter into semi-intelligent discourse, or even spell basic words correctly. Even your Loyalist compatriots can muster the mental acuity to do that.
*Lordus looks at his sibiestor slave with raged eyes*
See what you made me look like? You will learn to not let your master down ever again. Next time I order you to fix anything you will test it before you report it as fixed. Is that understood you piece if s**t?
*Then he turns into the galnet feed screens*
Oh well, spelling... Thats maybe because we miss to use those state-of-the-art translators gallenteans seem to have. Mine unfortunatly is old and has many bugs.
*While he cuts the transmission feed, he turns to his slave again with an angry and evil look*
Now dog, go and fix those Beam Lasers II we have at our hangar. Oh, and when you have them fixed let me know. I will send someone to test them on you before I'll put them to use.
*The galnet feed was now closed* EDIT=spell again, to where my translator abilitys can go
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Aria Jenneth
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:03:00 -
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Another one for the "people who make their own causes hard to support" chronicles.
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Andreus Ixiris
Heretic Logistics DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth Another one for the "people who make their own causes hard to support" chronicles.
Yes, I rather thought that. Another Darth Sage in the making, perhaps? ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics Dance Commander |

Gerardd
Khanid Division KnightRaven Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:21:00 -
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Trying to get back to topic I would go for Caldarii
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Kathryn Dougans
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Posted - 2008.04.04 19:22:00 -
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Out of interest, how many of the names for the different peoples are not of their own making? I know Khanid isn't, being originally an Amarrian word.
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Andreus Ixiris
Heretic Logistics DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.04.05 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kathryn Dougans Out of interest, how many of the names for the different peoples are not of their own making? I know Khanid isn't, being originally an Amarrian word.
Intaki is our own word, although the character used for the current "Intaki logo" (something I tacitly disapprove of) is actually from the Gallentean alphabet, which obviously bears little resemblance to our own. The Mannar, Jitai and Jin-Mei likewise use words from their own languages to describe themselves, and I believe the "logo" for the Jin-Mei is of their own design. Curiously, I cannot find "logos" for the Mannar and Jitai, and I've actually noticed a conspicuous lack of Mannar and Jitai pilots.
The Minmatar tribes use their original tribal monikers (Sebiestor, Brutor, Vherokior, Starkmanir, Thukker, Kurusal), with the exception of the Nefantar, which, in their attempt to distance themselves from associations with the Minmatar, started applying a Gallente portmanteau, "Ammatar", to themselves. Of course, the tribal names differ depending on what dialect of Matarian you're speaking in - Sebiestomatari and Brutomatari have notably different names for each of the tribes, although generally they are discernable and even if you don't know a certain dialect, you'll probably understand what tribe they're talking about.
Nefantar use an odd jumble of Amarrian and Nefantomatari, and use their own words for referring to the tribes, along with the Amarrian nicknames interchangably. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics Dance Commander |

Boma Airaken
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
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Posted - 2008.04.06 05:19:00 -
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In the case of ethnic Caldari, like the Civire and Deteis, it is "Caldari". In the case of the Achura, it is "Achura".
Should clear it all up just fine. Don't call me Caldarian though, that is the biggest insult ever. If you have no manners and insist on grouping me in with the Civire and the Deteis, at least say "Caldari". Though "Achura" would be even better.
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Aria Jenneth
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Posted - 2008.04.06 19:22:00 -
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Mr. Airaken has the right of it here-- the Achura are an ethnically, culturally, and spiritually distinct group. About the only way in which the "Caldari" name applies to the Achura is (and here, Mr. Airaken and I will probably differ) politically.
... but then, that's not an uncommon usage.
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April Knox
COLD-Wing The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.04.10 07:17:00 -
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Plural of Caldari is pretty much like the plural of any other race: Blob.
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Davlos
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:14:00 -
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Edited by: Davlos on 10/04/2008 08:15:24
Originally by: Telemicus Thrace I always thought the plural of Caldari was Committee.
Warm, but not quite there.
It's really, the Subcommittee of the Subcommittee that Presides Over the Proliferation of Toothbrushes and Toilet Bowl Scrubbers of the Subcommittee of the Statuary Board of Calorie and Protein Limitation in Infants' Diets in the Caldari Business Tribunal. ---
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Scientific category of gravitation fields and velocity is force....
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam
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Posted - 2008.04.10 08:34:00 -
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Caldari
though, Blob works too ...
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Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.11 01:06:00 -
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The Achura, officially, are members of the State, and that is what matters first and foremost. Within that membership, however, are distinctive cultural and ethnic groups.
Bear in mind that Caldari culture tends to place the most emphasis on the biggest group. So, I'm Caldari first, Civire second, and a blood member of both the Tarn and Hakatain family lines jointly in third place.
Anyway, We're Caldari, I'm Caldari, They're Caldari, It's Caldari and we all speak Caldanese. -
Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain. |

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Logistics
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Posted - 2008.04.11 02:52:00 -
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I must remark, despite my somewhat infamous love of the Federation, that I find it somewhat irritating that it is the "Gallente Federation". I think that's probably part of the issue with other Empires - the "true" Gallente, those descended from the people of the Rouvenour Empire, are fairly imperialistic about their culture. While I respect their contribution to the society they have created, Intaki, Jin-Mei, Jitai, Mannar and immigrant Minmatar, Caldari and Amarr alike are all part of the Federation, and I think that the name should change to be less ethnicity-specific.
After all, not everyone has such bad taste in fashion as the Gallente. I mean, perhaps we Intaki aren't the height of fashion, but... transparent shirts? I mean, come on! |
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