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Orvas Dren
Gallente Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.04.13 06:21:00 -
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Edited by: Orvas Dren on 13/04/2008 06:22:09 As is the case with many multicultural nations, the name kept is generally the one given at its inception. Despite not being 'Gallente' myself I feel every bit as Gallente as anyone else in the Federation, except as has been pointed out before, I prefer to wear opaque shirts.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Heretic Logistics
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Posted - 2008.04.13 15:14:00 -
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I cannot possibly see why one would wear something like that unless the desire was to scare off women. While that wouldn't neccessarily bother me, I should point out that it scares off most sensible men, too. ----- CEO, Heretic Logistics Dance Commander |

Lynch Me
Caldari KNIGHTS OF RYCHE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.04.14 15:49:00 -
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Caldari is the name of The State and my race as well. Caldarian is regularly used in order to express one's origin.
He is a Caldarian.
You can't really have more races or states bearing the same name, that's why names are - to distinguish between unique things. So you can't really have a plural form of Caldari. But instead, you could always use the plural form of Caldarian, as it refers to people. Caldarians is the word.
One Caldarian was flying around. Two Caldarians have thought it would make a good joke to lock on him. The Caldari State wasn't happy about the outcome.
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Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lynch Me One Caldarian was flying around. Two Caldarians have thought it would make a good joke to lock on him. The Caldari State wasn't happy about the outcome.
QED.
Good grief, I just twitched so hard that I think I spilled some pod gel...
"Caldarian" is not a word. Seriously. One Caldari was flying around, two other Caldari thought it would be funny to lock on to him, the Caldari State was not amused, and the ensuing Caldari tribunal was conducted in the Caldanese language.
Unless there's some obscure local dialect I'm not aware of, that's how it is an always has been. -
Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain. |

Leto Aramaus
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.15 23:43:00 -
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Dogs indeed... or swine --Freedom |

Sven Pollick
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Posted - 2008.04.17 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador Dogs?
...would that make the plural form of 'Amarr'... 'Rats'? |

Lynch Me
Caldari Science Industry and Nucleocosmochronology
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Posted - 2008.05.05 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Lynch Me on 05/05/2008 11:15:06 Edited by: Lynch Me on 05/05/2008 11:12:50
Quote: "Caldarian" is not a word. Seriously. One Caldari was flying around, two other Caldari thought it would be funny to lock on to him, the Caldari State was not amused, and the ensuing Caldari tribunal was conducted in the Caldanese language.
Unless there's some obscure local dialect I'm not aware of, that's how it is an always has been.
Well I must admit that my English may not be flawless since I'm not a native speaker, but that seemed a reasonable explanation and opinion using my knowledge of English. So I might be wrong.
However, this post
Quote: ...would that make the plural form of 'Amarr'... 'Rats'?
makes sense. I miss the Dark Blood rats! :P

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Magnus Nordir
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.05 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lynch Me Caldari is the name of The State and my race as well. Caldarian is regularly used in order to express one's origin.
He is a Caldarian.
You can't really have more races or states bearing the same name, that's why names are - to distinguish between unique things. So you can't really have a plural form of Caldari. But instead, you could always use the plural form of Caldarian, as it refers to people. Caldarians is the word.
One Caldarian was flying around. Two Caldarians have thought it would make a good joke to lock on him. The Caldari State wasn't happy about the outcome.
QED.
Wrong.
The word "Caldarian" does not exist.
A Caldari is a person whose ancestors lived on Caldari Prime. Some also consider the Achura people to be Caldari since they were largely incorporated into the Caldari State after the war of federate aggression. Caldari is also used as a plural form of the above described word. Caldanese is the language predominantly spoken in the Caldari State. Caldanese is also used as an adjective - for example, "The Caldanese cultural heritage is rich and can be used to explain many traditions and social norms that exist in the Caldari state today."
(((English doesn't exist in EVE, keep it out of this))) ***************************** Art is a noble mission beyond every temporary commitment, and as such obliges one to fanatism. |

Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.06 03:33:00 -
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Caldarian is at most, a slang term used by some, but not an actual word in the Caldari language. Caldanese is used as name for our language, but even then, you will find many that refer to our native language as 'Caldari'.
We have one word for many aspects of our people. Why are there those who do not see the core of this? We are many who are diverse, like the use of our name, yet all are one under the same bond. Such is our people, and the name which we bear.
Those who do not see the equal bond shared between them, be it Capsuleer, Megacorporation CEO, or back-breaking factory worker, only harm what it means to be Caldari, to deny not what we share in blood, but in ideal and purpose. Those who would look down upon their fellow Caldari, be it a Deteis, Achura, or even one of many immigrants that have joined our State, have stumbled and must recover. They will not be alone in this, we will lend a hand to our brothers and sisters that need it. Why? Because in doing so we as a people become stronger. This unity is one by name, one which a person is not given, but earns through their actions.
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Boma Airaken
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.05.06 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Thorradin Caldarian is at most, a slang term used by some, but not an actual word in the Caldari language. Caldanese is used as name for our language, but even then, you will find many that refer to our native language as 'Caldari'.
We have one word for many aspects of our people. Why are there those who do not see the core of this? We are many who are diverse, like the use of our name, yet all are one under the same bond. Such is our people, and the name which we bear.
Those who do not see the equal bond shared between them, be it Capsuleer, Megacorporation CEO, or back-breaking factory worker, only harm what it means to be Caldari, to deny not what we share in blood, but in ideal and purpose. Those who would look down upon their fellow Caldari, be it a Deteis, Achura, or even one of many immigrants that have joined our State, have stumbled and must recover. They will not be alone in this, we will lend a hand to our brothers and sisters that need it. Why? Because in doing so we as a people become stronger. This unity is one by name, one which a person is not given, but earns through their actions.
Please do not include Achur in your definition of Caldari. Ethnic Caldari and Achur are not the same. We are a tenant race who have a relationship of convenience with the State. We are NOT Caldari.
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Lynch Me
Caldari Science Industry and Nucleocosmochronology
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Posted - 2008.05.06 11:17:00 -
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Quote: Wrong.
The word "Caldarian" does not exist.
OK I've begged forgiveness for that already :) I'm more of a strange Deteis, spent too much time along those of other races in 0.0 space, and we all fought together for the same purpose, despite being Caldari, Amarr, or even Gallente. So those of us that were in outlaw space for so long have more or less forgot about all the racial problems. It may be the implication of a different aim of politics - that of simply dividing empty space and building capital for some even more war.
Quote: (((English doesn't exist in EVE, keep it out of this)))
Well I heard it's called like that but I may be wrong, wasn't it some way of talking that the races have inherited from the old times, one of the ways they can communicate to each other? (I'm trying to get out of it) So I heard :)
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Sven Pollick
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Posted - 2008.05.06 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Leto Aramaus Dogs indeed... or swine
Oh, no. I'm afraid your conservative Gallente patriots would be the swine, Mr. Aramus.
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Kailea Shandrasekkar
COLD-Wing The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.05.06 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lynch Me (...) Well I heard it's called like that but I may be wrong, wasn't it some way of talking that the races have inherited from the old times, one of the ways they can communicate to each other? (I'm trying to get out of it) So I heard :)
Seems you're growing too used to your universal translator unit, and to your pod as well; get out a bit, walk around, go planetside in Lonetrek - and you'll notice how rich the Caldari heritage is. The accent in Jita is wildly different from Nonni, which in turn is quite different from the Caldari spoke in Oimmo.
As far as i know, there's no common roots between the Napanii language used in the old Raata Empire and the other races' languages - but then, i'm not a scholar in such matter, so i can be wrong. |

Lynch Me
Caldari Science Industry and Nucleocosmochronology
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Posted - 2008.05.06 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lynch Me on 06/05/2008 20:05:32
Originally by: Kailea Shandrasekkar
Seems you're growing too used to your universal translator unit, and to your pod as well; get out a bit, walk around, go planetside in Lonetrek - and you'll notice how rich the Caldari heritage is. The accent in Jita is wildly different from Nonni, which in turn is quite different from the Caldari spoke in Oimmo.
*snip*
Yes, indeed, I haven't got out of my capsule lately. And not because of those mindlock things that used to happen quite often, but... Really I don't know why. I've been contemplating my "previous life" a lot more recently and was quite distracted by several changes in my pilot life - coming back from outlaw space and all. As for the strong Jita accent, I was quite amused when a co-worker back in 0.0 called it "bussineish" 

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Kitoba
Minmatar Legion of Dynamic Discord
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Posted - 2008.05.06 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lynch Me "bussineish" 
Well, hear someone from around Motsu pronouncing "whole house" as "***** house" and try not to laugh. AFAIK, and that is very limited, Caldari have a significant inheritage from an old Earth tribe called the "japaneses", which were known to hear "l" and "r" as one and pronounce it "r".
The thing that completely puzzles me is how they are able not to notice the joke. |

Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Boma Airaken Please do not include Achur in your definition of Caldari. Ethnic Caldari and Achur are not the same. We are a tenant race who have a relationship of convenience with the State. We are NOT Caldari.
Ofcourse you are Caldari. If one had to be from Caldari Prime then there would be very few Caldari in the State. It is not simply being born of a certain bloodline that makes one Caldari. An Intaki, Amarrian, or even a Gallente, could become a Caldari if they wish and showed themselves to live up to he name, just as we, Deteis and Civire, must do. |

Kitoba
Minmatar Legion of Dynamic Discord
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:02:00 -
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As it seems to be en vogue to facilitate ethnic understanding today: We Minmatar would not care at all whether it's Caldarian, Caldanese, Caldrian or whatever, and regard the whole discussion as immaterial: As long as you can physically form one front, you are one tribe. If you can't, you are one tribe that is many tribes, whatever that might result in: A simple, quickly settled, bar fight, ignorance, or open war.
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Lynch Me
Caldari Science Industry and Nucleocosmochronology
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Posted - 2008.05.07 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kitoba
Originally by: Lynch Me "bussineish" 
Well, hear someone from around Motsu pronouncing "whole house" as "***** house" and try not to laugh. AFAIK, and that is very limited, Caldari have a significant inheritage from an old Earth tribe called the "japaneses", which were known to hear "l" and "r" as one and pronounce it "r".
The thing that completely puzzles me is how they are able not to notice the joke.
Well as long as it's business and it produces ISK, I don't think those in Jita care whether it's whole house or the other way around 

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