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Eefrit Eve Financial Services	Posted - 2008.01.19 10:36:00 - [1] Due to a bad logistical decision on my part, there is a chance that dividends will be late this month for FIN and FIN-U. All assets are safe and it is not a capital loss but rather a logistics timing mistake on my part that has caused this. I am doing my best to make sure that they are on time as they have always been but I may not succeed and may end up paying dividends a few days late. Please note that I do not mean a few weeks late, so please don't take up more of my time by emailing me to ask questions as I would rather spend it sorting this out. Sincerely, Eefrit
Kwint Sommer Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.01.19 10:42:00 - [2] But I thought you were perfect......Kwint continues to cry in the corner over his shattered world views. 5% Mining & Manufacturing Implants
Ghost Emperor Amarr EvE Mutual Fund Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.23 00:11:00 - [3] Thanks for the update...have great faith in you and cheers for the update. More people would surely reply, there have been over 160 views of the thread and only two messages :o So it disappeared of the first couple of pages. GL with plans EvE Galactic Stock Exchange and Real-time Eve Stock Exchange EMFI blog at: http://emfi.blogspot.com/
Dr Slurm General Commodities	Posted - 2008.01.23 00:19:00 - [4] Wow I missed this, kind of a testament to how much chaff has been getting posted lately. Thanks for the update. It's better then Quafe! Off-topic. Please don't point out semantic errors of the moderators - Mitnal
Florio Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:15:00 - [5] ah there you are on page 6 - knew you would have explained it somewhere. waits patiently
Eefrit Eve Financial Services	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:46:00 - [6] Thanks for being patient everyone. Dividends for FIN will be paid out within the next 24 hours, and hopefully for FIN-U as well, but that may be another day or two. My apologies once again for the delay. Regards, Eefrit
Imperius Blackheart Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.06 22:55:00 - [7] <3 Love ya Eefrit. Thanks for the info, your the model bond holder. [/url] Proud member of the Caldari Death Squad
Morro Terminus	Posted - 2008.02.07 01:12:00 - [8] Any chance I can get my 200 million I invested on Jan 3 sorted? Thanks for your time, Morro Terminus
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.07 01:22:00 - [9] Edited by: Treelox on 07/02/2008 01:23:29 Originally by: Morro Terminus Any chance I can get my 200 million I invested on Jan 3 sorted? Thanks for your time, Morro Terminus While I am not Eefrit, I feel that I have to ask. WHat do you mean you invested on Jan 3rd? I only ask this since Eefrit must have sold out on both of these bonds more than a year ago. Since I am sure that Eefrit is most likely asleep at this time, let me ask the questions that he will most likely ask you when he reads your post. To save you both time trying to figure things out. 1. Who did you send isk too? 2. Why did you send that person isk? 3. What did you expect to get for that isk? 4. Exactly what time did you send that isk? 5. Who or what told you to send that isk to Eefrit? ---edit wrong pronoun corrected --
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.02.07 02:19:00 - [10] Treelox people were still sending money to Eefrit's FIN thread as he didn't specifically/clearly list it as closed. You can see it being done here
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.07 04:59:00 - [11] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic Treelox people were still sending money to Eefrit's FIN thread as he didn't specifically/clearly list it as closed. You can see it being done here lol thats funny, well ill try and catch eefrit to have him get the mods to lock that thread. Im surprised how ppl have been sending him isk even though he hadnt responded in such a long time. Even more surprised that ppl kept bumping it for so long. Oh well. --
Eefrit Eve Financial Services	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:13:00 - [12] Originally by: Morro Terminus Any chance I can get my 200 million I invested on Jan 3 sorted? Thanks for your time, Morro Terminus Hi Morro, My apologies for the long delay here. I normally only log EFS Manager in once a month to pay dividends, but I have a niggly idea in the back of my mind that you contacted me directly as well but I am not sure. Either way the Isk has been refunded from EFS Manager. Regards, Eefrit
Eefrit Eve Financial Services	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:15:00 - [13] Dividends for FIN have now been paid as well. Regards, Eefrit
Marcus Baltar	Posted - 2008.02.11 13:32:00 - [14] Originally by: Eefrit Due to a bad logistical decision on my part, there is a chance that dividends will be late this month for FIN and FIN-U. All assets are safe and it is not a capital loss but rather a logistics timing mistake on my part that has caused this. I am doing my best to make sure that they are on time as they have always been but I may not succeed and may end up paying dividends a few days late. Please note that I do not mean a few weeks late, so please don't take up more of my time by emailing me to ask questions as I would rather spend it sorting this out. Sincerely, Eefrit Apologies if I have this wrong, but I do not seem to have received any FIN-U dividend yet and it is getting on for two weeks late. I did receive the FIN dividend on the 7th, thanks
Raskor	Posted - 2008.02.12 03:37:00 - [15] Originally by: Eefrit Due to a bad logistical decision on my part, there is a chance that dividends will be late this month for FIN and FIN-U. Speaking as an investor in both of these bond offerings, wouldn't it be appropriate to pay a higher than usual amount due to the payment being late?
Kwint Sommer Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.02.12 04:13:00 - [16] Originally by: Raskor Originally by: Eefrit Due to a bad logistical decision on my part, there is a chance that dividends will be late this month for FIN and FIN-U. Speaking as an investor in both of these bond offerings, wouldn't it be appropriate to pay a higher than usual amount due to the payment being late? Yes, if the interest is late then it too should accrue interest, not to mention a bit of a late penalty much as any company would charge a delinquent customer. The one time FRPB was late (by less than a day if memory serves) there was a little extra something in the dividend. My apologies to Ionia if it was a different bond.... 5% Mining & Manufacturing Implants
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.12 05:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Kwint Sommer Originally by: Raskor Originally by: Eefrit Due to a bad logistical decision on my part, there is a chance that dividends will be late this month for FIN and FIN-U. Speaking as an investor in both of these bond offerings, wouldn't it be appropriate to pay a higher than usual amount due to the payment being late? Yes, if the interest is late then it too should accrue interest, not to mention a bit of a late penalty much as any company would charge a delinquent customer. The one time FRPB was late (by less than a day if memory serves) there was a little extra something in the dividend. My apologies to Ionia if it was a different bond.... I guess the question would be is what provisions did Eefrit make in his orginal business plan? Does he or does he not have provisions in his business plan for extra instrest in the event of being late on his monthly bond repayments? I ask that because without such a provision being in his plan, he can easily tell us to pound sand. The nature of bonds being what they are, by buying them we agreed to adhere to the plan as it was set forth. Shares on the other hand, well then we have partial ownership, and have some recourse. --
Kwint Sommer Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.02.12 14:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Treelox I guess the question would be is what provisions did Eefrit make in his orginal business plan? Does he or does he not have provisions in his business plan for extra instrest in the event of being late on his monthly bond repayments? I ask that because without such a provision being in his plan, he can easily tell us to pound sand. The nature of bonds being what they are, by buying them we agreed to adhere to the plan as it was set forth. Shares on the other hand, well then we have partial ownership, and have some recourse. Not quite, if he had a "things may be late but too bad" provision then we are indeed screwed but if he doesn't have any such provision then he owes interest on the unpaid capital. It is quite simple really, he borrowed money from the public and agreed to pay interest on that, he is late with a payment so now he owes them even more money. He has to pay interest on all owed money unless specifically stated otherwise, to do anything less is borderline scamming. The only situation in which borrowing money for an agreed rate and then failing to pay the resulting interest is when an IPO accepts funds but is canceled do to insufficient investment and even then there are plenty of incidents of people paying interest for the few days they held the investors money. 5% Mining & Manufacturing Implants
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.12 14:30:00 - [19] Well we shall just see how eefrit deals with this then shall we not? Myself I have shed all my investments in corps that are seemingly now run by people who barely play anymore, except for a token ammount of shares/bonds just so i can watch votes, dividends and still voice my opinion from an "ownership" position. --
Kwint Sommer Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.02.12 14:47:00 - [20] Edited by: Kwint Sommer on 12/02/2008 14:47:22 Pretty much the same here, the only thing I hold more than a billion in stock in is less than 6 months old. I did it for very different reasons though. I realized shares were selling at 130% of what I paid and I cashed out. Now I'm earning 30% a month on the ISK so it was one of the best decisions I've made in a while. 5% Mining & Manufacturing Implants
Jonantus Lorenzuz Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.12 15:22:00 - [21] Originally by: Eefrit Thanks for being patient everyone. Dividends for FIN will be paid out within the next 24 hours, and hopefully for FIN-U as well, but that may be another day or two. My apologies once again for the delay. Regards, Eefrit Now it's been 6 daysand no dividend yet
Eefrit Eve Financial Services	Posted - 2008.02.12 21:12:00 - [22] Sorry for the delay here. The dividends have been paid a few minutes ago. To answer the other question raised, of course interest will be paid on the bonds for the period from the beginning of the month until now, but will be included in next months dividends. Regards, Eefrit
Ghost Emperor Amarr EvE Mutual Fund Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.13 00:17:00 - [23] Dividends received and very nice they are too :) Thanks for all the hard work and GL with plans EvE Galactic Stock Exchange and Real-time Eve Stock Exchange EMFI blog at: http://emfi.blogspot.com/
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.02.13 05:23:00 - [24] Originally by: Eefrit To answer the other question raised, of course interest will be paid on the bonds for the period from the beginning of the month until now, but will be included in next months dividends. Ask me about Secured ISK Loans from the BMBE.
Marcus Baltar	Posted - 2008.02.13 09:40:00 - [25] FIN-U dividend received, thanks Just want to say I agree with the above two posts (23 and 24)
Jonantus Lorenzuz Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.14 10:36:00 - [26] Yup..everything in order and in a neat package:-)
Katashi Ishizuka	Posted - 2008.03.09 18:36:00 - [27] bump
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2008.03.09 19:09:00 - [28] Originally by: Katashi I**uka bump Why exactly are you bumping? What are you after? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
Kwint Sommer Lothian Quay Industries Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.03.09 20:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Katashi I**uka bump Why did you necro this thread? 5% Mining & Manufacturing Implants
Raskor	Posted - 2008.03.10 01:04:00 - [30] Originally by: Kwint Sommer Why did you necro this thread? Perhaps because FIN-U dividends are MIA again?

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