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Castra Noor
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Posted - 2008.01.19 17:19:00 -
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Yes, you can have 1 billion isk in your wallet !
When ? You can have it tonight, if you follow my instructions. Where ? Jita, IV-4 And How ? Trading ! Very simple !! Take 2 billion isk, try the "buy low sell high" game with an item of your choice, cash in at the end of the day, and here you are, there is 1 billion left in your account instead the 2 billion you started with 
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Shwedagon Paya
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Posted - 2008.01.19 17:21:00 -
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Oh, wow.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.19 17:24:00 -
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Hehe, someone done fuxored up while trying to trade 
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.01.19 17:28:00 -
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Big wopsie there!
Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
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Shwedagon Paya
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Posted - 2008.01.19 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Castra Noor Yes, you can have 1 billion isk in your wallet !
When ? You can have it tonight, if you follow my instructions. Where ? Jita, IV-4 And How ? Trading ! Very simple !! Take 2 billion isk, try the "buy low sell high" game with an item of your choice, cash in at the end of the day, and here you are, there is 1 billion left in your account instead the 2 billion you started with 
FYI, not everyone succeeds at daytrading. If everyone succeeded, no one would make any money.
The people who do succeed do so at the expense of fools and failures. Welcome to the F&F club. 
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.19 17:55:00 -
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easy solution, DON'T GO TO JITA!!!  CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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Mr McCargo
The Paradox Continium
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Posted - 2008.01.19 18:31:00 -
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But... I did it the other way around. I took 1 bil to Jita and made 20 of it
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Brother Tycho
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.19 19:41:00 -
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Trade in amarr space its not totaly scraped clean like caldari space. -------------------------------------------- All the girls say im pretty fly for Ni-Kunni. |

Emily Evermore
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Posted - 2008.01.19 20:33:00 -
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np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
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Castra Noor
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Emily Evermore np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
That's what i mean, everyone is making billions or trillions in Jita. If you ask how to make isk in eve you are instantly told "go to jita and start trading, you can make a lot of isk in short time". I dont think it's true, not after i tried it myself - all lies ! I think people buy isk with gtcs from chinese sweatshop workers and then tell everyone they made it in Jita. Jita is not an isk generator, but you can lose a lot there if you believe all those liars !!!
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:54:00 -
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I traded a bit half-assed last week in places including and other than Jita and made a couple of billion without really breaking a sweat. Used about 700m capital to do it. Wasn't fun though. It's like being at work. I prefer to pew.
Originally by: Kindakrof there is no gravity in space
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2008.01.19 21:57:00 -
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Oh Noes!!!111! We are heading into recession, the stocks are down....
Seriously though. I've tried it for a while. Earned several hundred millions with a small starting capital, but it is so boring.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:13:00 -
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typical - watching the market average is something some new traders forget to do Trashed sig, Shark was here |

Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium
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Posted - 2008.01.20 00:20:00 -
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I went to Jita. Now I'm #374 in a stuck petition queue 
CCP need some sort of "Your petition is very important to us..." message and some musak to keep me in that blissful state of "I..Must... controltheurgetobreaksomething...keep cool...the operators will only hang up if you get iRaTe" vein popps out from forehead. "Calm, relaxed...ahhhhhh......Eyeball bulges......ARGH!!!!!"
Khaldari khanidpublic: RP channel for Kingdom loyalists
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.20 02:20:00 -
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most of the noobs under 3 months saying Yeah I traded and made BIlions...dont belive them....Its called GTC...they buy them and say they have alot of money...
I hate peopel buying chars...and I hate GTC....2 of the worst investments forthe game by CCP. --------------------
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Leora Nomen
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.20 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Castra Noor
Originally by: Emily Evermore np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
That's what i mean, everyone is making billions or trillions in Jita. If you ask how to make isk in eve you are instantly told "go to jita and start trading, you can make a lot of isk in short time". I dont think it's true, not after i tried it myself - all lies !
it's all one big conspiracy to lure you to this place where they can make their billions and trillion off you, and it has worked ... so i do believe them, it's not all lies
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F90OEX
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Posted - 2008.01.20 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Emily Evermore np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
According to your contract history you made 0 
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.20 03:48:00 -
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Edited by: Richard Phallus on 20/01/2008 03:50:21
Originally by: Castra Noor That's what i mean, everyone is making billions or trillions in Jita. If you ask how to make isk in eve you are instantly told "go to jita and start trading, you can make a lot of isk in short time". I dont think it's true, not after i tried it myself - all lies ! I think people buy isk with gtcs from chinese sweatshop workers and then tell everyone they made it in Jita. Jita is not an isk generator, but you can lose a lot there if you believe all those liars !!!
OF COURSE they are lying. The more people that do something the less profitable it will be, or the sooner it'll get nerfed. There is no reason for anyone to tell you how to make iskies, the market is PVP too. That billion you lost was a gain for someone else, so you may have just been ganked.
Yes, I think you were. Telling someone "Go trade in Jita, any newbie can make millions there" and then sitting in around just playing them as they enter market PVP for the first time should count as ganking. Jita is market camped 23/7  --
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NightF0x
Gallente Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.20 03:50:00 -
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You're just trying to trap me in Jita on a Sunday, aren't ya
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.20 03:51:00 -
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Ganking is allowed... ****! 
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.20 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Ganking is allowed... ****! 
Yea, now we can yell at people for not using a market scout or something though when they ***** about it!!! --
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.20 03:55:00 -
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I am guilty of undercutting the market and making people mad 
It's my way of getting back at the empire huggers
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2008.01.20 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: F90OEX
Originally by: Emily Evermore np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
According to your contract history you made 0 
And according to my contract history, I'm broke. Hot ticket items do not a fortune make, but they sure as hell help. There's plenty of money to be made on the general market.
OP: remember, every last one of us "market PvP specialists" got rich off the lazy, the careless, and the stupid. Try to be one of the last two as little as humanly possible.
Originally by: Frug Your reputation has been entirely redeemed in my eyes. I now want your babies.
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Thornat
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Posted - 2008.01.20 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Thornat on 20/01/2008 09:37:51
Originally by: Castra Noor
Originally by: Emily Evermore np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
That's what i mean, everyone is making billions or trillions in Jita. If you ask how to make isk in eve you are instantly told "go to jita and start trading, you can make a lot of isk in short time". I dont think it's true, not after i tried it myself - all lies ! I think people buy isk with gtcs from chinese sweatshop workers and then tell everyone they made it in Jita. Jita is not an isk generator, but you can lose a lot there if you believe all those liars !!!
Well I would agree that pretty much everyone lies about how much ISK they make, I don't know why, its like some kind of wierd competition to try to prove to other players how easy it is to make ISK in Eve as if people had a stake in you believing their lies. I have had this happen on more occassions then I can count.
With that said you can make good ISK on trading, usually about 20-30% profit if you pay attention and on high end goods that can be a considerable amount of ISK. However the guy who said he turned 500 million ISK into 23 billion.. sorry but thats a lie, I wouldn't believe that for a second. I have Tech II BPO's (125 MM Rail II's) and I don't even close to making 23 billion ISK per month and I do that on top of investing about 1 billion ISK In the market each month.
Really there is a lot of BS about Eve markets, I think just because once a lie is started and believed and transfers to the population as truth and just because a sort of believed myth that no one bothers to test. Two of the bigger lies are .
1. You can't make ISK on T1 BPO's or Rat Drops - This is probobly one of the biggest and most widely accepted lies in Eve. T1 BPO's are an amazing market and while there are some BPO's that have low profit margins at 10% or less (many ship types for example), the large majority of T1 BPO's if researched properly carry 15-30% profit margins which is often better then their T2 counterparts. You do need to have researched BPO's and Production Efficiency 5, without that you shouldn't be building anything.
2. T2 BPO's are insta winner lottery tickets - This is probobly the second biggest lie in Eve. While certain T2 BPO's have extreme profit margins (ships mainly), in as a whole 90% of T2 BPO's are quite useless. There are a number of factors to support-contribute to this, but the bottom line is unless you are commited to selling at extremly low margins you have to do a considerable amount of foot work to sell your items. I have 125mm Railguns II and while I make a handy profit on this in Gallente space, the profit margins in places like Jita are lower then on T1 of the same BPO and to make and sell them elsewhere takes a considerable amount of effort on my part which Im often not willing to do as I prefer to live in 0.0 PvPing.
Its worth noting I have always made far more ISK ratting and PvPing in 0.0 then I have on my T2 BPO, T1 BPO's and Trading put together. I can often times make as much as 20 million ISK in a couple of hours and while many people claim to make far more, anytime I have ever called someone on it (gone out with them to prove it to me) they have not only failed to do so, but fallen short of what I am able to do on my own in my own little secret 0.0 hideaways.
The morale of the story is this. Don't believe them, don't believe me.. go out there and find out for yourself what is and isn't true. I think you'll be suprised to find out the difference between the TRUTH and the presumed truth.
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.20 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Richard Phallus on 20/01/2008 09:57:57
Originally by: Thornat ...Assorted Lies in long format...
No! ISK falls from the sky in every place that you aren't. Sorry to break it to you, but this is a fact. I made over 200 billion ISK the other day manufacturing and trading in Iron L hybrid charges. --
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.01.20 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Black OP: remember, every last one of us "market PvP specialists" got rich off the lazy, the careless, and the stupid. Try to be one of the last two as little as humanly possible.
Or you made money off people like me who sell loot/salvage at the best buy order I can find locally because I can make twice as much by looting/salvaging twice as much. 
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Sarah Beany
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Posted - 2008.01.20 11:41:00 -
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ok i have made 864 billion isk from just 120 million start in 3 weeks. this includes all the hubs not just Jita. Why?.......because people are lazy and sell ETC for isk and introduce this isk into the market place ??? i'm not sure but i dont know how people cannot make 2-300 billion isk in a week in this game. this is a very easy game to make in game currency, and it makes me laugh when people are all moaning in local about how difficult it is to make isk. Just do some trade in Hubs. Oursuleart, Jita,...etc. Are people just simple?????
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
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Posted - 2008.01.20 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: F90OEX
Originally by: Emily Evermore np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
According to your contract history you made 0 
Think it's safe to asume that he didn't post with his main...
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J Ripper
Caldari Silent Retaliation
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Posted - 2008.01.20 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian most of the noobs under 3 months saying Yeah I traded and made BIlions...dont belive them....Its called GTC...they buy them and say they have alot of money...
I hate peopel buying chars...and I hate GTC....2 of the worst investments forthe game by CCP.
Nothing wrong with GTC. I mean, how else would I play EVE for free ? 
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2008.01.20 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Castra Noor
Originally by: Emily Evermore np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
That's what i mean, everyone is making billions or trillions in Jita. If you ask how to make isk in eve you are instantly told "go to jita and start trading, you can make a lot of isk in short time". I dont think it's true, not after i tried it myself - all lies ! I think people buy isk with gtcs from chinese sweatshop workers and then tell everyone they made it in Jita. Jita is not an isk generator, but you can lose a lot there if you believe all those liars !!!
well it isn't true.. haven't meet any one trustworthy that have made billions in such a short time by "just" trading in jita.. you can make some, but use the same amount of time missioning etc. you will make just as much (there are a few though taking stuff from one place to another making fortunes in short time, but those are the few and takes long time to prepare for routes etc) I declare war on stupidity |
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astowv
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.20 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: J Ripper
Originally by: Lord Evangelian most of the noobs under 3 months saying Yeah I traded and made BIlions...dont belive them....Its called GTC...they buy them and say they have alot of money...
I hate peopel buying chars...and I hate GTC....2 of the worst investments forthe game by CCP.
Nothing wrong with GTC. I mean, how else would I play EVE for free ? 
Alltho there is issues with noob flying around in 60 mill SP chars, and buying the world. It also is a HUGE-MASSIVE-ONLINE-ROLEPLAYING-ISKSINK (HMORI) :P
It benefits the cashbox at CCP, and its turn us. For them buying chars, these are chars that has made a difference in the game, and it would be like if ******, Bin Laden, and other rather large persons in the world just went inactive. It would change the outcome in the end. So to a sertain limit its good to have them active.
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Twin blade
Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation
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Posted - 2008.01.20 12:47:00 -
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Jita is great you can make so much isk you could buy a titan or you can lose every isk you have its about luck and picking a good item.
I would bother but i don't like to be stuck there all day buying and trading items when there is pew pew to be done. Death is great rember where all dying to get there. |

Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.01.20 13:08:00 -
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I'm a noob about a month playing.
I have over 300+ mil in ISK and 100 mil in Ships/assets.
How did I get most of it? (One Word) Trading.
How did I get my working capital?
Missions and Salvaging after being gifted a 5 million ISK loan from a friend I met in game. I have since paid them back 10 million.
How do I keep my momentum going? I continue to trade and continue to do missions and salvaging.
Do I use Jita? Absolutely. Its the best place to sell most of the odds and ends you get in loot and it is also where I get most of what I buy to sell in other places. It is also close to the agents I use for missions.
In my experience (which is limited) I generally make about 20 percent on the investment I make in Jita products as I tend to buy and then sell almost immediately rather than put it up for sale and wait for a buyer willing to pay more.
It sure can be tedious siting in Jita fighting with 2 or 3 other people to get your order filled by constantly increasing your buy price by .01. (back and forth back and forth).
The most I have been able to make on a couple of my longer trading sessions was 50 million profits.
Usually I can make 10 to 20 million in a shorter session run.
That may sound crazy to most of you rich ISK players out there, but you have to realize that in trading your potential for profit is largly based on the amount of working capital you have when you begin your trading session.
I did not start making headway into the hundreds of millions until I had accumalated 50 million in purchasing power.
Last night I was treated to my first level 4 mission by that friend that loaned me 5 million in the begining.
We did a level 3 and a level 4 mission and after spliting it all up we each made well over 10 million in profits.
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Hellspawn666
Minmatar Master Miners
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Posted - 2008.01.20 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Thornat Edited by: Thornat on 20/01/2008 09:37:51
Originally by: Castra Noor
Originally by: Emily Evermore np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
That's what i mean, everyone is making billions or trillions in Jita. If you ask how to make isk in eve you are instantly told "go to jita and start trading, you can make a lot of isk in short time". I dont think it's true, not after i tried it myself - all lies ! I think people buy isk with gtcs from chinese sweatshop workers and then tell everyone they made it in Jita. Jita is not an isk generator, but you can lose a lot there if you believe all those liars !!!
Its worth noting I have always made far more ISK ratting and PvPing in 0.0 then I have on my T2 BPO, T1 BPO's and Trading put together. I can often times make as much as 20 million ISK in a couple of hours and while many people claim to make far more, anytime I have ever called someone on it (gone out with them to prove it to me) they have not only failed to do so, but fallen short of what I am able to do on my own in my own little secret 0.0 hideaways.
The morale of the story is this. Don't believe them, don't believe me.. go out there and find out for yourself what is and isn't true. I think you'll be suprised to find out the difference between the TRUTH and the presumed truth.
I didnt think id see someone else writing what i was thinking (well i think the t2 bpo isk printing thing was true before invention). Basically people completly overstate how much isk they can make doing somthing in eve. People claiming 100 mil an hour npcing are full of **** if thats an average.I npc with a carrier alt assigning fighters to me and still only make 20-40 mil an hour(if you include salvaging and looting) that is per active npcing character ofcourse if i npc with 2 or 3 characters at once in different systems i can make alot more. Only way you can make more then that per hour with one character is if your insanly lucky and pretty much chain office/faction spawns. This is assuming npcing in a very low sec 0.0 system. No doubt some wise guy will post how im not doing it right but its pretty much impossible to make tons of isk fast through any kind non-player mechanic since CCP design it to be averaged the same. Oh and chaining battleship spawns every 9 seconds used to make far more isk :P
Best ways to make isk in eve ive found after 3+ years are to have your finger in multiple pies, by this i mean have characters getting datacores (this helps for every few months to check in) while pvping and hoping to get lucky with loot. Mining can be good for isk making if you have a comp that can handle alot of accounts since if your running 4or 5 accounts with a roqual involved then you'l be making alot of iskies. Risking alot too mind.
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Sephra Star
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Posted - 2008.01.20 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: Sephra Star on 20/01/2008 13:49:11 I disagree with the above poster about the best way to make ISK.
In my opinion the best way to make ISK is by doing something profitable that is fun at the same time.
Either that or setting up somthing boring and profitable while on auto pilot where your not forced to be siting at the computer. His Data Core idea comes to mind.
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Hellspawn666
Minmatar Master Miners
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Posted - 2008.01.20 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 20/01/2008 13:49:11 I disagree with the above poster about the best way to make ISK.
In my opinion the best way to make ISK is by doing something profitable that is fun at the same time.
Either that or setting up somthing boring and profitable while on auto pilot where your not forced to be siting at the computer. His Data Core idea comes to mind.
Well actually thats pretty much what i meant. I personally have multiple datacore characters which obviously require no work(except picking them up occaionsally) and spend all my eve time pvping somtimes you get lucky i would say i end up about even in what i gain/lose but thats just because im wreckless ya can make profit outa pvp but you just need the capital and unfortunatly if you pvp just for isk its not too much more interesting then npcing. But i agree with ya its best to make isk doing somthing you enjoy. Although alot of people ive met actually enjoy mining, from time to time its a nice relaxing thing to do while chatting about **** on ts with mates while also acting as great bait :)
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.01.20 14:09:00 -
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You've all been trolled;
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=647794
The very same Castra Noor who argues with herself in threads. She forgot to change her character this one time 
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Emily Evermore
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Posted - 2008.01.20 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: F90OEX
Originally by: Emily Evermore np here made 23 billion from 500mil in the last month
According to your contract history you made 0 
not with this throwaway alt.
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.01.20 17:40:00 -
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if i cared about making money i wouldnt be sitting here playing the game payed for by taxpayers cash.

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Nicholas Barker
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.01.20 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Branson
"How to be a millionaire; start off as a billionaire and join the airline business"
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