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Angor
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Posted - 2008.01.21 13:37:00 -
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Doesnt make sense why spots are filled up in 48hrs when eve has like 500 alliances. 64 is more of a competiton number :)
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2008.01.21 13:53:00 -
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Probably because 64 would mean a lot more group matches, which in turn would add days to the actual length of the tournament.
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DHB WildCat
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Posted - 2008.01.21 14:16:00 -
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So in otherwords you are a bunch of lazy gits. I think thats how the english say it, dont know Im not english 8). Expand it to 64 teams. I volunteer to make the bracket and set up times for you sense it is too much work for EVE TV and CCP.
FYI the preliminary round doesnt need to be shown on TV and can be done in one day. Your inability to make this happen is really impressive.
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Angor
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Posted - 2008.01.21 14:38:00 -
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Exactly, 4 groups of 5 becomes 4 groups of 8, so what its a few extra matches which is what we all want (fans and players) i'd imagine its only CCP that doesnt want the hassle. Most major tourny's are setup this way.
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:30:00 -
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It's been said a few times befor - Add a single more team to each group, and you add half the time again.
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Evil Edna
Seal Cub Clubbing Club
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:33:00 -
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which could be pretty easily made possible by cutting each match down by a few minutes, and having less studio banter without really increasing the broadcast time
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DHB WildCat
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:33:00 -
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Its simple really, 64 teams, anyone that watches USA college basketball knows where I am going with this 8)
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Soggy Biscuit
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:37:00 -
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 Originally by: DHB WildCat
Its simple really, 64 teams, anyone that watches USA college basketball knows where I am going with this 8)
yes, very clever. point is. the broadcasts are already a long tiring affair. great fun I'm sure, but tiring. make it longer? make the event last longer? when?
If you start earlier, US timezone people get irate. If you finish later, it gets late for Euros
If you add an extra day, when do you do it? It has to be friday, sat or sun, so that means adding another weekend on, which then doubles how long people spend organising, televising, and competing in the event
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Jermaine Jackson
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Edna
which could be pretty easily made possible by cutting each match down by a few minutes, and having less studio banter without really increasing the broadcast time
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Angor
The JORG Corporation
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.01.21 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Soggy Biscuit
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Its simple really, 64 teams, anyone that watches USA college basketball knows where I am going with this 8)
yes, very clever. point is. the broadcasts are already a long tiring affair. great fun I'm sure, but tiring. make it longer? make the event last longer? when?
If you start earlier, US timezone people get irate. If you finish later, it gets late for Euros
If you add an extra day, when do you do it? It has to be friday, sat or sun, so that means adding another weekend on, which then doubles how long people spend organising, televising, and competing in the event
Oh noes, heaven forbit it might take a little extra effort to squeeze another weekend in. If they want to make things easy, cut the tourney down to 5 teams and u could have the comp over in a matter of hrs.
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Guna Charismatica
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Posted - 2008.01.21 17:19:00 -
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I don't think it's fair to have 64 alliances, I mean there are so many alliances out there it's just not fair! It wouldn't be much harder to have, say, 400 alliances compete. That way we won't have to put up with *****ing and whining from people who forgot to sign up during a three day window.
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Angor
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Angor on 21/01/2008 18:13:38
oh out come the sarcastic alts to pu55y to post with their mains.
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
So in otherwords you are a bunch of lazy gits. I think thats how the english say it, dont know Im not english 8). Expand it to 64 teams. I volunteer to make the bracket and set up times for you sense it is too much work for EVE TV and CCP.
FYI the preliminary round doesnt need to be shown on TV and can be done in one day. Your inability to make this happen is really impressive.
WildCat
when you comment on someone else as a lazy gits, how much effort/time have you put into this tournament, besides the forum where you dont let a opertuntie slip to say how much this event sucks and that BE wouldnt particpate anytime soon.
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Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Angor
Oh noes, heaven forbit it might take a little extra effort to squeeze another weekend in. If they want to make things easy, cut the tourney down to 5 teams and u could have the comp over in a matter of hrs.
If you add another weekend you're adding another week for experts and EVETV crew/staff. 2 weeks is already a lot of time- three weeks would be absolutely untenable for the vast majority of those actually working on the broadcast.
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Ohne
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.21 19:17:00 -
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Eve-tv could only broadcast a 32 team playoffs.
Theres no reason to broadcast every single match. Cheaper for CCP and better for everybody else. Youll see this in most major sporting events. Qualifying stages for the World Cup arent broadcasted all-around the world, only the major event itself.
This could deff. be organized in another way, its just a matter of dooing it. Im not saying that GM Nova & Co are a bunch of lazy bastards, just that it doesnt take that much time to figure out a better system when obvouisly more people want to compete than actually got in.
It also lowers the standard of the tourney itself when many good contenders arent around. World-Cup without Brazil, France or Italy would just be World-Cup B Devision or something.
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Jermaine Jackson
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Posted - 2008.01.21 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ohne
Eve-tv could only broadcast a 32 team playoffs.
Theres no reason to broadcast every single match. Cheaper for CCP and better for everybody else. Youll see this in most major sporting events. Qualifying stages for the World Cup arent broadcasted all-around the world, only the major event itself.
This could deff. be organized in another way, its just a matter of dooing it. Im not saying that GM Nova & Co are a bunch of lazy bastards, just that it doesnt take that much time to figure out a better system when obvouisly more people want to compete than actually got in.
It also lowers the standard of the tourney itself when many good contenders arent around. World-Cup without Brazil, France or Italy would just be World-Cup B Devision or something.
but in a different thread, people are bemoaning the fact that every match should be televised. conclusion? no ******'s ever getting pleased
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Ohne
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.21 19:48:00 -
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Its obvoius to me that this cant be a month long tourney with all the matches televised :)
IMO, Id be happy with just a 32 team playoffs televised.
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Angor
The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.21 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Angor on 21/01/2008 20:21:34
I agree with the PL guy, group stages shouldnt be telivised only the last 32 if things are too difficult and expensive to organise a complete 64 team comp. Lets face it, eve is becoming more and more popular, its going to be a shame to have each tourney with missing entertaining sides such as BoB, AAA, Red Alliance, Hun (defending title), Goons etc.
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Draekas Darkwater
Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2008.01.21 20:58:00 -
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You can add more teams and keep the total number of matches down by increasing the number of groups, lowering the number in each group, and only letting the leader of each group through to the sudden death stages.
Taking the top 2 teams in each group to get your 16 finalists:
8 groups of 5 = 40 teams, and 80 group stage matches.
8 groups of 6 = 48 teams, but its 160 group stage matches.
However,taking the top team from each group to get 16 finalists:
16 groups of 3 = 48 teams, and only 48 group stage matches.
16 groups of 4 = 64 teams, and only 96 group stage matches.
So, if they wanted, they could add 24 new slots, and only increase the total number of matches by 16. That to me sounds like a decent trade off, if the popularity for it is there.
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The Anointed
Caldari
Methods of Madness
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Posted - 2008.01.21 21:48:00 -
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I'd think that some qualifiers that weren't broadcast and then allowed more teams to apply would be a good way of doing it, to be honest, our first 2 matches in the last tournament shouldnt have been broadcast.
I'd like to see;
Larger number of spots available,
Knockout qualifiers that are behind the scenes,
Seeding to seperate teams based on previous results,
I would agree that just increasing the numbers wouldn't work unless its doen with the introduction of some knockout rounds, with say, the top 3 or 2 teams in each group at the previous tournament getting a pass straight into the broadcast.
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Ohne
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.21 22:46:00 -
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Also if you would allow for example 64 teams and have a complete knock-out system instead of group stages, you would end up less matches aswell, while allowing more teams to compete.
There _are_ alot of ways to solve this, you just need the willpower to actually do something about it.
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DHB WildCat
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Posted - 2008.01.21 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
Originally by: DHB WildCat
So in otherwords you are a bunch of lazy gits. I think thats how the english say it, dont know Im not english 8). Expand it to 64 teams. I volunteer to make the bracket and set up times for you sense it is too much work for EVE TV and CCP.
FYI the preliminary round doesnt need to be shown on TV and can be done in one day. Your inability to make this happen is really impressive.
WildCat
when you comment on someone else as a lazy gits, how much effort/time have you put into this tournament, besides the forum where you dont let a opertuntie slip to say how much this event sucks and that BE wouldnt particpate anytime soon.
You are justified to smack me for that, but if you had read the other threads in this forums you will note that I have volunteered my time to set-up a bracket to accomidate all that want to be involved..... HERE COMES THE FUN PART 8) I LOVE TRAPS
However you must have missed those posts.... jeez that never happens I mean who doesnt read every single post in the forums, so that they might denote my intentions.... This could never happen and those that missed my other posts must be incompentant, just like those that missed the sign-ups post.
CCP take note of this post, this is how easy it is to miss these things and take some reguard in the future. Gyro DuAquin1 thank you for helping me in this trap 8).
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
Originally by: DHB WildCat
So in otherwords you are a bunch of lazy gits. I think thats how the english say it, dont know Im not english 8). Expand it to 64 teams. I volunteer to make the bracket and set up times for you sense it is too much work for EVE TV and CCP.
FYI the preliminary round doesnt need to be shown on TV and can be done in one day. Your inability to make this happen is really impressive.
WildCat
when you comment on someone else as a lazy gits, how much effort/time have you put into this tournament, besides the forum where you dont let a opertuntie slip to say how much this event sucks and that BE wouldnt particpate anytime soon.
You are justified to smack me for that, but if you had read the other threads in this forums you will note that I have volunteered my time to set-up a bracket to accomidate all that want to be involved..... HERE COMES THE FUN PART 8) I LOVE TRAPS
However you must have missed those posts.... jeez that never happens I mean who doesnt read every single post in the forums, so that they might denote my intentions.... This could never happen and those that missed my other posts must be incompentant, just like those that missed the sign-ups post.
CCP take note of this post, this is how easy it is to miss these things and take some reguard in the future. Gyro DuAquin1 thank you for helping me in this trap 8).
WildCat
You are a bit fast young one.
First of no I havent read all of your potsts, thats based on the fact that when you post in this forum section you mostly whine, flame or blame someone else for making a (what you call) a failure. Or you are offering "help", in this case you offer to setup the bracket, which is a noble idea, when you keep in mind that ccp annouced that there will be no change et all, the noble part vanishes a bit. Also leaving out of sight, that seting up the bracket is like 5 minutes work and, doing evetv, having studio ppl and fight those actual extra rounds is a bit more then the 5 minutes you have invested.
On another hand when you post there is no red/blue line in thre thread topic, when someone from the GM/event team does, there is.
Also you cant set stickys, which is always a good idea to read when you wanna participate or get informed in a forum. So when somoene wants to be in the tournemant, all he needed to do was to read stickys, with blue or red lines in the topic, and not every thread where someone posting in orange blaimes the rest of eve about how much this event sucks or making suggestion while corssing his fingers that this cicurmstance will never happen.
So just because i dont read every post you make doenst mean I am unable to read the few pages of stickies at the top, just opening this forum section and check whats going one, doenst seem to tough.
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Malar
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2008.01.22 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
First of no I havent read all of your potsts, thats based on the fact that when you post in this forum section you mostly whine, flame or blame someone else for making a (what you call) a failure.
What are you doing by the way? Flaming those who you think are flaming. Yet you do lecture others on forum behavior?
Please kids, go to bed and let the adults have a discussion here. After all, thats what forums are for.
Sure everybody is entitled to have an opinion, they've got all right to share that opinion, but most of you will agree, that if people would only keep repeating the same opinon over and over again, it would not be a forum, more like a collection of random quotes.
You Gyro do nothing but to repeat your own opinion. I havent seen you add ONE intelligent thought to this thread or any other i saw you posting in for that matter. If you think that's what forums are for then you are sadly mistaken.
nuff said.
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Pizi
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.22 09:19:00 -
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really a bit of an drawback
let 64 in
broadcast the 32 finals
and do the last match(es) best of 3 or up the points to 2-300
it always was a bit unfunny that after 2 weeks all is decidet within 3 to 10 minutes
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 09:43:00 -
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next year add a qualifier. devide it into 4 main groups.
north, south, east and west.
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reg keeper
The JORG Corporation
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 10:16:00 -
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After much reading and talking with the players of Ti, we would still lie to of tried our hand in teh tourney.
Okay we are to late and this I'm affraid is all my fault.
I was moving from vancouver to Calgary at the time and was without a pc to check the sticks as pointed out by another poster.
Luck would have it that there is a reserve list.
To this end I will place our name on it and see what happens.
If all else fails at least we get to watch some of our close eve comrads fight it out.
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Zenst
Gallente
Omniscient Order
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.22 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Emeline Cabernet
next year add a qualifier. devide it into 4 main groups.
north, south, east and west.
What he said is too logical to pass up on. do it CCP.
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Ituralde
The Illuminati.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 18:49:00 -
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Anyone who watches pro sports can tell you during the regular season, multiple games are on at the same time (Gasp-WhoKnew).
Have Multiple channels. Have highlight reels for what's going on in the other channel. Replays and the like to analyze what went on behind the scenes during notable past matches perhaps.
It takes a little co-ordination but it's not hard to do. This way, you can easily nearly double the size of the tourney without running into your time constraint.
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alctel
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 20:59:00 -
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Oops
I guess its too late for us to sign up now isn't it :(
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