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Droneo Queen
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:39:00 -
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To jump into Jita to Buy/Sell something that has a individual value over 2000 isk each? Or buy/sell it for 0.01 isk more/less at the system 1 or 2 jumps away from Jita(which obviuouly doesn't require you to jump through Jita)?
Personally I tend to look 1 or 2 orders below the first one when the list is sorted by price. If the difference is not much I will Sell/Buy it preferably outside Jita or at a system closer to my starting point. (for 2000 piece case, 100 is not much. So generally 0.1% for expensive stuff, and 5% for cheap stuff.(of cause it varies sometimes))
But that's only me. I am here to find out what everyone playing EVE is like.
I am seeking Producer/Consumer's comments that's why I posted it here instead of Marketing discussion.
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RaTTuS
BIG
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:44:00 -
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if you buy the more expesive price in the list then the top order gets extra cash [in the same station], and those items are sold from that stack - this is why you get .01 undercutters as they take priority.
1 or 2 jumps from Jita is fine - unless your buy a lot of stuff and need to colelct it all ...
is 2 jumps worth it for a saving of .1% ...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 21/01/2008 15:46:37
1. Wrong questions. The reason to buy/sell in Jita is not the 0.01 ISK difference, it's LOCATION. Flow-rate. Stuff like that.
2. Wrong forum. You SHOULD have posted in market talk, even if you try to explain why you didn't.
3. Horribly wrong signature. And I don't just mean the picture itself, but also the size.
EDIT: #3 retracted. I see you already changed it.
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Anhammerad
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:45:00 -
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I'm lazy when it comes to buying/selling things on the market however the laziness scales depending on how much ISK I have in the wallet.
When I have a lot I'll buy whatever's closest to me no matter what the price, oposite is true when I have a little, though I don't travel ridiculous distances for things.
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Droneo Queen
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Droneo Queen on 21/01/2008 15:55:06
heh i changed it after i see the size of it. 
Let's assume the orders are not at the same system. in fact let's simplify the situation to:
You are at System B, System A has a buy order at 2000 isk, Jita has a buy order at 2000.01 isk. to go to jita, it requires you to go through system A. Now will you still sell your loads on jita?
To Akita: it's about the consumers who is the end-user of the product. Will the end-user actually care about the flow-rate? End-users just buy the cheapest thing and use them up. As i have already specified my intention: it's about the traders, but strangely it's about the Consumers and Producers
Edit: Ops need a cup of coffee. it's NOT about the traders 
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Arkanstar
Caldari
Naughty People
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:59:00 -
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I wouldn't go even one extra jump for 0.01 isk. Not unless selling millions of units.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Venkul Mul on 21/01/2008 16:09:17
If you are speaking about a buy order I will not jump in Jita for some small increase in payment.
For sell orders it is different.
If I need only 1 item I will prefer to avoid Jita, even if I have to pay something more. If I need several items Jita or the equivalent hub is convenient, as I will find all or almost all I need in the same location.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Droneo Queen
To Akita: it's about the consumers who is the end-user of the product. Will the end-user actually care about the flow-rate? End-users just buy the cheapest thing and use them up. As i have already specified my intention: it's about the traders, but strangely it's about the Consumers and Producers
You don't go to Jita to buy or sell ONE item, not even one stack of items.
You go to Jita to unload a huge pile of inventory, made up of dozens, maybe hundreds of item types.
You go to Jita to buy a whole load of stuff, like a new ship plus all the fittings you need, or a shopping list comprised of what several corp/alliance mates want to get.
And in those cases, you actually don't CARE that something sells for slightly less, or you buy it a little bit more expensive, because it's a one-stop job, not several hunded.
It's called the network effect.
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS
if you buy the more expesive price in the list then the top order gets extra cash [in the same station], and those items are sold from that stack - this is why you get .01 undercutters as they take priority.
1 or 2 jumps from Jita is fine - unless your buy a lot of stuff and need to colelct it all ...
is 2 jumps worth it for a saving of .1% ...
Wrong. If you are selling, it goes to the highest offer, if you are buying, you can select, even at the same station. It will take from that stack and charge you what that stack charges. I occasionally buy from the second stack when I'm ****ed with .01 undercuts.
As for the OP, when we buy/sell in Jita, we do it because we're lazy. We KNOW there will be prices there that are at least competitive, sometimes even good. So, we can dump all our stuff there as a single trip, rather than three slightly better prices. Or we just set up sell orders somewhere else.
Seriously, who goes more than 3 jumps to buy anything that is 'cheap' to them if they can help it?
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KingKenny
Minmatar
Under The Edge
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jurgen Cartis
Wrong. If you are selling, it goes to the highest offer, if you are buying, you can select, even at the same station. It will take from that stack and charge you what that stack charges. I occasionally buy from the second stack when I'm ****ed with .01 undercuts.
So far as I can tell buying from 2nd stack will charge you the 2nd statck price but will take the stock from the lowest price in the station.
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Droneo Queen
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:32:00 -
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did my sig just got nerfed?
Anyway,
The buyer's case
shopping mall-that's a way to put it, but it only applies to these is actually shopping.  Well if you put it into extreme, a head of a huge alliance might shop in jita in a freighter, but in which case they must have a fairly poor 0.0 market of themselfs in turn make them NOT a huge alliance.
i believe most people buy stuffs first then plan the route then jump on thier freighters to collect them. if the items i am selling is not on their palned route, it's my fault for not have my stuff scatterred around reasonable places not the 0.01 effect
The seller's case
They see a market order, load thier freighter set destination then unload their stuff at the destination or load everything they made for past few weeks, jump into, and put up sell orders.  Buy orders only attract first kind of people, the second kind of people you were talking about will set-up their own sell oeders for each item.
it's called the queen effect
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Droneo Queen
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jurgen CartisI occasionally buy from the second stack when I'm ****ed with .01 undercuts.[/quote
I do that
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Metathron
S'Erum
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Droneo Queen
Originally by: Jurgen CartisI occasionally buy from the second stack when I'm ****ed with .01 undercuts.[/quote
I do that
Unfortunatly for you this doesn't work. Buying from the second stack will get you the goods from the 1st stack at the price from the 2nd. So you're actually helping the undercutter more ... 
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Droneo Queen
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Metathron
Originally by: Droneo Queen
Originally by: Jurgen CartisI occasionally buy from the second stack when I'm ****ed with .01 undercuts.[/quote
I do that
Unfortunatly for you this doesn't work. Buying from the second stack will get you the goods from the 1st stack at the price from the 2nd. So you're actually helping the undercutter more ...
I didn't know that
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