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Zeitto Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.01.23 08:26:00 - [1] I was under the impression that these were runnable mainly because I thought it was required to get above +5 security status and also the fact that their agents are on all the different agent databases out there with all the information displayed about them including their required standing. But after travelling to a few stations I see that these agents are not there and that you can't start conversations with them as it says 'The selected character, <agent name>, is not an Agent.' So, what's the deal? Are they just hidden agents that aren't runnable?
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.01.23 10:04:00 - [2] They were removed, to make security status grind harder. A long while ago ....
Zeitto Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.01.23 10:18:00 - [3] oh How do you get your sec above +5 then?
Reecoh Soltar Exotic Dancer Talent Agency United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.01.23 19:38:00 - [4] I have found 1 CONCORD agent to work for. He raised my sec from 5.0 to 5.5. Look up Christer Fuglesang. He'll give you 1 COSMOS-like storyline mission. If you complete it you will get a medal.
Emily Spankratchet Minmatar Pragmatics	Posted - 2008.01.23 20:30:00 - [5] Originally by: Zeitto How do you get your sec above +5 then? That's a very good question. I returned after a longish hiatus to discover that my sec status is 5.05, sad little carebear that I am. I wish I knew how it got that extra 0.05.
Annuke Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.23 20:58:00 - [6] The agent in matebur or whatever system that spawns the hive mission....think you need 4.5 security stat or higher. Search for past threads on this....the hive spawns as a beacon in system and anybody can jump into your mission and complete it on you. It's not an easy mission, bring a few peeps. I completed it when I had 5.0 and ended up with 5.5 security sec...now it's down to like 3.8
Helen Eve Innovative Technologies	Posted - 2008.01.23 22:59:00 - [7] Missions in empire (cosmos excepted) only let you gain upto 5.0 security standing to go above that you need to rat in 0.0. Top Tip - Don't eat yellow snow
PC415	Posted - 2008.01.24 21:22:00 - [8] Originally by: Zeitto oh How do you get your sec above +5 then? There was an economic dev blog about the player base that had statistics on all the players in Eve and their security status (among other things). Economic Dev 2007 Q3 Report It's on page 5 of the PDF. I noticed on that page it stated: "Older game mechanics allowed pilots to acheive security standing of up to +10. However, current game mechanics only allow pilot to reach security standing of +5. Those pilots that had received higher standing than 5 kept their standing but are not able to increase it, even though they lose part of that standing. Hence, all pilots with standing higher than +5 today are older pilots." I have a Char. that has > 5 so I'll check to see if that agent stated above will increase standings.
Helen Eve Innovative Technologies	Posted - 2008.01.24 21:52:00 - [9] Originally by: PC415 Originally by: Zeitto oh How do you get your sec above +5 then? There was an economic dev blog about the player base that had statistics on all the players in Eve and their security status (among other things). Economic Dev 2007 Q3 Report It's on page 5 of the PDF. I noticed on that page it stated: "Older game mechanics allowed pilots to acheive security standing of up to +10. However, current game mechanics only allow pilot to reach security standing of +5. Those pilots that had received higher standing than 5 kept their standing but are not able to increase it, even though they lose part of that standing. Hence, all pilots with standing higher than +5 today are older pilots." I have a Char. that has > 5 so I'll check to see if that agent stated above will increase standings. Its not just older characters though I've seen '07 characters who I'm near certain are those "macro" type with the cloaking ravens have standing of more than 5.0. Top Tip - Don't eat yellow snow
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries	Posted - 2008.01.24 22:38:00 - [10] I think the standings tracker occasionally bugs out and still awards you standing gain even when you already have 5.0. I have seen like a day of standing gains during months of no standing gain while being on 5.0 in my logs in the past anyway. There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Reecoh Soltar Exotic Dancer Talent Agency United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.01.24 23:23:00 - [11] I ran Christer Fuglesang's mission in early December, so that one was at least possible around when the report came out. Sounds like there a couple of exceptions to the rule of them being removed out there yet.
Hobbes277	Posted - 2008.01.25 05:25:00 - [12] Edited by: Hobbes277 on 25/01/2008 05:25:44 Currently 5.03 and never ratted in 0.0 and just over a year old. Yes Im a carebear :)
marie claude Gallente	Posted - 2008.01.25 05:37:00 - [13] aww you beat me (5.01) trinity = EPIC FAIL
etgfrogs Cassandra's Light Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.25 06:26:00 - [14] ok, to explain how, it is a standing change, losing standing to a pirate faction gives you standing with concord when you do storyline missions. that was my only explination since that isn't shown through the security status side of stuff. FROG!
Driemon Vilvarin Gallente Corax. SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2008.01.25 14:46:00 - [15] Edited by: Driemon Vilvarin on 25/01/2008 14:50:00 Edited by: Driemon Vilvarin on 25/01/2008 14:48:03 Originally by: Helen Its not just older characters though I've seen '07 characters who I'm near certain are those "macro" type with the cloaking ravens have standing of more than 5.0. You get above 5.0 when you kill named rats and officers, it has nothing to do with bieng a macro, pretty much every lvl 4 runner will at some point get above 5.0.

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