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Posted - 2008.01.24 14:05:00 -
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I'm kind of worried about attracting the same kind of crowd Counter-Strike generally attracts. FYI I play Counter-Strike a lot.
When I play CS I play on many servers and I spot at least 1 cheaters every 2 hour session. If there aren't cheaters and if it is a regular map everyone just buys an AK or a AWP and camps with it.
I really don't think EVE needs more people who play to win and uber. I imagine logoffski problem increasing dramatically not to mention the whining when people can't get the AWP equiv (dd device) straight away.. 
Oh, and generally they whine just a little too much. If you are good you are a cheater.
Imagine it:
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Now entering Ennur system.
kIT`xRad`89 > wtf how u kill me ??
unnamed > lol better than u nub
Jonno666 > l2p fgt
kIT`xRad`89 > sending demo to valve
I guess I rest easy knowing that EVE restricts names to sensible lengths, alpha-numeric with only one space and a few back-ticks. charmap.exe names in CS are really, really annoying.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Vargo Hoat
Good point here but you made one mistake. Cheating in EVE is not so easy as in CSS as everything (except drawing the graphics) is done on the server, while most of the stuff in CSS is done on the client machine. There is just no technical possibility for "wallhacks" and stuff like that in EVE.
Technically possible cheats for EVE-Online:
- Macro Mining
- Macro Belt-ratting
- Macro Missioning
- Warp-to-zero Autopilot
I'm sure more exist.
Originally by: Vargo Hoat
s for the rest - it's all here already, the whining, the logoffski, and "I will tell my mum you podded me.." and we can't do nothing against it, except make their life in EVE even harder by not showing any mercy.. 
Instead of 1 person in every 10 logging off, it might be 5 in 10 or even higher. That will be great. Whining is fine, it has nothing to do with the game, but metagaming does..
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Vargo Hoat
Technically they are not cheats or hacks. They are pure macros that click on screen instead of you. I wouldn't go so far and say it's cheating and you can do it in any game. And I hate it and do not approve it to be honest.. :)
They are cheats because they circumvent the rules of the game. They allow people with these "hacks" to do things that people without them cannot, against the rules remind you. That makes it cheating. You know, breaking the rules to get an advantage over others.
They are hacks, sure, a lot of them are simple repetition macro programs but some are not. Although, one could argue regardless of the methodology used (reverse engineering vs predicting responses..) they are "hacked" on top of the game.
It sounds like you are try to make macros seem more innocent. 
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Reading "Windows Game Programming For Dummies" doesn't really make you a software developer. You sound like one of those types.
You can't prove that Steam is transmitting sensible data because you can't control what they are transmitting and storing. Fact is, they are gathering data in a big way. Whether you trust them to only do good things that'll save the world is up to you. I don't.
Vargo knows what he is talking about, because he:
a) works for Valve and has read the entire source tree (and understands it)
b) has reverse engineered all of the Steam executables, and any updates (which could very well be removed at the next update)
c) has intercepted and decrypted all of Steam's encrypted traffic (and understands it)
It's not as unlikely as you might think!
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Posted - 2008.01.24 16:48:00 -
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Okay, so your long-winded post only proves how deluded you really are. The world was spinning long before cell phones were widely available, and yes I know that is a metaphor.
You trust Valve more than some other large company so you are qualified to say that Steam has no spyware? You have a pretty naive attitude for a software developer.
You just prove how anyone with a spell-check and a basic history lesson can be a professional software developer for a major company, and not just any company, one of the best!
FYI, I don't use Google. Thanks for playing though.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vargo Hoat
And by mere opening of this forum CCP has more information about you than you can probably imagine. Of course you can protect yourself but that's a completely another story
They know what browser I tell them I use. They know what country my proxy is located in and they know that I like paying with GTCs. CCP know waaaaaay too much about me.
Just because your privacy is easily invaded doesn't mean mine is just as easily, and it certainly doesn't mean anybody should stop trying to protect themselves...
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Posted - 2008.01.24 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Vargo Hoat
And I'm sorry to see how this discussion lowered itself to a personal level. If I started it I'm terribly sorry and will not continue. This has became a major troll feast..
You lowered it to that level by spouting your software development crap. If you want anybody to take you seriously in a discussion try using facts and logic to convince people instead of what "qualifications" you may or may not have.
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Posted - 2008.01.25 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Makhan
Edited by: Makhan on 25/01/2008 04:59:32
Originally by: Awox
Originally by: Vargo Hoat
And I'm sorry to see how this discussion lowered itself to a personal level. If I started it I'm terribly sorry and will not continue. This has became a major troll feast..
You lowered it to that level by spouting your software development crap. If you want anybody to take you seriously in a discussion try using facts and logic to convince people instead of what "qualifications" you may or may not have.
Please stop posting your garbage here minmatar.
Get a clue you ungrateful idiots, you embarrass yourself and the entire community with your ignorant stupidity and arrogance.
Steam is the savior of PC gaming. Truly pitiful that so many 'tards call it spyware when it merely does what any internet-enabled program does, and it is completly natural to want to know what kinds of things your consumers are buying. Honestly, the lot of you should be ashamed of yourself. As well as the people fearing a rush of "kids", when in reality their own ignorance and stupidity contributes far more lameness to the forums than any "kids".
I bet we get another influx of chicken-****s who are afraid to post with their main when flaming someone too. Post with your main or STFU.
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