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boggie down
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:46:00 -
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Wow what a weird start to 2008. I must say the coalition is dead. No one seems to have any loyalty what so ever. The Goons have a nap with MC WTF is that. Now they stand by as AAA has a mom and carriers in C3 and are dropping poses like crazy good luck KOS. Where is the love for supposed to be allies. All the backstabbing in the drone regions. All I can say is this game has more drama than my wife novellas. |
Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:48:00 -
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thanks pator -------
Everything I say represents my corporation and their views. |
DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:49:00 -
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KOS alt spotted.
IBL
tbqh
imo
dbp
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boggie down
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:53:00 -
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Kos alt don't insult me you're better off calling me a former bob pets alt. |
Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:53:00 -
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space loyalty is space dead I am afraid
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Attak
Trioptimum The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:59:00 -
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AND AFTER ALL KOS HAS DONE FOR THE COALITION!
/swoon
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:04:00 -
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Yep, the coalition is falling apart. We're finished. Game over. BoB won.
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Dictum Factum
Gemini Sun Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:05:00 -
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Politics aside, I had fun during the fighting. I lost 3 ships, but it was my first real taste of PvP in this game and I enjoyed it. My only wish would be that it was not so one-sided so that my ships would have lasted a bit longer. No worries though, I am sure that someone will make more.
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Vishous
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:21:00 -
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In all reality, you can not be surprised that AAA attacked KOS. Relations with them have been strained for a while. As for the coalition, it only formed to kill BOB. Granted, that has not yet been completed, but it's far enough along that most alliances can just go back to status quo.
And apparently this alt wants to play NAP online. What would eve be without more killing. If it wasn't for the war against BOB, I can guarantee you that there would not be so many people allied to each other as they are now. People like yourself (speaking to the alt) should just run back to empire if they don't want to get shot at. You are not wanted in 0.0. Your motherships with crappy setups are getting old.
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Farham
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:26:00 -
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My limited understanding of AAA was that they did kinda whatever made them happy.
Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot |
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Atsiz Zhurenh
Minmatar modro Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:28:00 -
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I for one am enjoying the pvp.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vishous but it's far enough along that most alliances can just go back to status quo.
you just summed up why bob will win. the exact thing happened 3 years ago at the end of the gnw, and its already happening again. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |
MacQueen
Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: boggie down my wife
guys
MY WIFE.
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:36:00 -
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We don't need your services anymore, now we need your regions. Goodbye.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: Attak AND AFTER ALL KOS HAS DONE FOR THE COALITION!
/swoon
Yeah, its pretty much just the **** alliances in the coalition causing issues.
KOS is terrible and doesnt deserve to live, I think goon are trying to keep them alive so they can go slaughter them for fun when bobs done...
Smashkill and friends are causing problems in drone town...
and a billion other coat tail riders are still on board the train...
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Cybarite
Gallente Aristotle Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:43:00 -
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it's kinda funny when you realize that KOS was the expendable meatshield for the goons. ... Why do I PvP? Because I love the feeling I get when I see the pretty lights and know that someone somewhere is screaming incoherently at their computer screen. |
Jeremy Paxman
Special Doc
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:49:00 -
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Knights of the Southerncrucified.
-------------------- "this", quoth he, and lo, he was down. |
Brunswick2
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:53:00 -
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WE ARE REPELLING THEM!
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Kylegar
Caldari Shadow Of The Light Scorched Earth Directive
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Posted - 2008.01.24 05:53:00 -
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Im laughing.
See, thats my laughing face. Have fun AAA, Im rooting for you. --
Originally by: CCP Ginger No sex changes.
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Commodus Vespasian
Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 06:20:00 -
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Is it really a surprise that the goons dont care about the other members of the coalition. Im surprised that the goons didnt come and take C3 for themselves they seem to want the south all to themselves. It seems the coalition was dead the moment bob retreated.
Also if your are going to report about what AAA brought into C3 at least be accurate, they brought much more than a mom and carriers, much more!!!
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Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.24 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z thanks pator
poasting in dis thread, quoting the epitome of failure ____________________________________________
Originally by: Thargat They should change the name of CAOD to EvE Zoo. Please to not feed the animals.
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Westly Synpa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.24 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Commodus Vespasian Is it really a surprise that the goons dont care about the other members of the coalition. Im surprised that the goons didnt come and take C3 for themselves they seem to want the south all to themselves. It seems the coalition was dead the moment bob retreated.
Also if your are going to report about what AAA brought into C3 at least be accurate, they brought much more than a mom and carriers, much more!!!
ah we dont usually interfear when both sides are blue but ya know w/e.
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Corewin
Deathwatch Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 06:29:00 -
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ah we dont usually interfear when both sides are blue but ya know w/e.
There was a general claus put out by Goonswarm, stating that if AAA or KOS were to overstep their bounds and begin taking systems in a hostile action. Goonswarm would then step in and set things straight. Seeing as what Goons say and what Goons do are hardly ever one in the same, I can understand the lack of action.
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Hitme Harder
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2008.01.24 06:41:00 -
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Edited by: Hitme Harder on 24/01/2008 06:40:55 http://standings.goonfleet.com/
GS's foreign policy is NBSI (this means if its neutral or worse, its an enemy)
KOS and GS are NAP'd (this means they don't shoot each other)
AAA and GS are NAP'd (this means they don't shoot each other)
GS, AAA, and KOS are totally separate entities that do not control each other.
I know EVE diplomacy isn't just black and white.
pbj
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Ventro69
Caldari Manson Family SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.24 07:00:00 -
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Oh look, sombody that still believes in what Goons say.
Who cares, GO GO GO -A- !!!
Please convo me if you need ammo, strontium, pos fuel, anything really. I just want to help kill off KOS.
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2008.01.24 07:16:00 -
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hehe this is what ilike to see :) goons backstabbing ppl.. ->My Vids<-
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Malaphar
Amarr Making Our Way to Stars Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 07:18:00 -
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Well , to be more precise, AAA did not bring only a mom and a couple of carriers.... The displacement of forces from AAA's side was huge : more than 60 capitals (of which 35-40 were dreads) and over 140-150 Battleships. First thing they did, after they arrived in QRBN- system (1 jump from C3-0YD),was to jump in C3 and head directly to our cyno-jammer POS , which they managed to incapacitate pretty quick. Afterwards , the capitals jumped in C3 and started to shoot at KoS Station services (of which the fitting service was completely incapacitated and put offline) and put POSes (they had at least 3 - 4 Freighters which arrived together with the 140+ BS fleet). So far they managed to destroy the cyno-jammer , to put 4 POSes online and to incapacitate the Station's Fitting Service.
I put here all the facts just to show that their actions were extremly well planned for a long time. In the meanwhile , Goonswarm's answer to their attack was something like "aaah....it's nothing ... they only want some action...relax!" but, after we mentioned their POSes being brought in reinforced mode and their other actions , suddenly the goonies broke any contact with our officials and no answer was received from that part anymore.
IMHO , behind these events are the leaders of Red Alliance (the true rullers of the Coalition , those who are known to give direct orders to any AAA and/or Goonswarm at any given time as they please)...otherwise nobody could explain the audacity of AAA's actions or the reaction/attitude paralysis suddenly suffered by Goonswarm. This is, IMHO , how things will look from now on , more and more. Red Alliance knows better than anyone in this game what the word "dictatorship" means! Afterall , they invented it...the russians. The times when BoB rulled in Eve will seem like the Golden Age of humanity compared to what the "Reds" secretly prepare for us.
But , I say again , this is my OWN OPPINION as regular Eve player.I do not speak on behalf of anyone except me!
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Von Kleist
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.24 07:34:00 -
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Its a sad, sad day. What on earth is this world coming to, where people can just move some ships in and shoot at anyone they like? IMHO TBQH LOL OHGOD
This is just my opinion, and in no way implies anyone in goonfleet cares about any of this.
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Maniakas
STEEL FIST INCORPORATED Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 07:45:00 -
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You know i dont get all these ppl who moan about goons doing nothing, I still cant believe that ppl in KOS dont realise this was gona happen sooner or later. Its clear we aint needed anymore.
So stop acting like 5 year old GOONS aint suppose come and save our ass everytime some1 attacks us!!! Wate has the begining has an end and this is the end for KOS. Have fun pew pew pewing while it last and move on to dif things this is game after all!!!
O ye and this is my main
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Corewin
Deathwatch Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Malaphar Well , to be more precise, AAA did not bring only a mom and a couple of carriers.... The displacement of forces from AAA's side was huge : more than 60 capitals (of which 35-40 were dreads) and over 140-150 Battleships.
First of all I doubt even AAA could muster up a force that significate. Atleast the battleship part. Maybe if it was a battleship only fleet. If they did /kudos.
Originally by: Malaphar IMHO , behind these events are the leaders of Red Alliance (the true rullers of the Coalition , those who are known to give direct orders to any AAA and/or Goonswarm at any given time as they please)...otherwise nobody could explain the audacity of AAA's actions or the reaction/attitude paralysis suddenly suffered by Goonswarm. the "Reds" secretly prepare for us.This is, IMHO , how things will look from now on , more and more.
Somehow I doubt Red is behind this. It's probably just AAA's way of saving face in light of the fact Impass isn't part of "impassible" for nothing. What better way to do it and take space at the same time, then move in on a weaker enemy. That and they have already seen Goons disaction before. Free reign to do as they please.
AAA - All the offensive advantages in the world coupled with probably the easiest region in space to defend.
KOS - An alliance of disadvantages. Has a region that, from a defensive stand point, is the most tactically horrifying thing in EVE. A Pvp force that has dwindled in numbers as well as experience. Amazingly bad luck when it comes to capital deployment against odds.
Tenerifis is a region dependent on others for support. With so many on the sidelines willing to watch, its only a matter of time.
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.24 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Malaphar Well , to be more precise, AAA did not bring only a mom and a couple of carriers.... The displacement of forces from AAA's side was huge : more than 60 capitals (of which 35-40 were dreads) and over 140-150 Battleships. First thing they did, after they arrived in QRBN- system (1 jump from C3-0YD),was to jump in C3 and head directly to our cyno-jammer POS , which they managed to incapacitate pretty quick. Afterwards , the capitals jumped in C3 and started to shoot at KoS Station services (of which the fitting service was completely incapacitated and put offline) and put POSes (they had at least 3 - 4 Freighters which arrived together with the 140+ BS fleet). So far they managed to destroy the cyno-jammer , to put 4 POSes online and to incapacitate the Station's Fitting Service.
I put here all the facts just to show that their actions were extremly well planned for a long time. In the meanwhile , Goonswarm's answer to their attack was something like "aaah....it's nothing ... they only want some action...relax!" but, after we mentioned their POSes being brought in reinforced mode and their other actions , suddenly the goonies broke any contact with our officials and no answer was received from that part anymore.
IMHO , behind these events are the leaders of Red Alliance (the true rullers of the Coalition , those who are known to give direct orders to any AAA and/or Goonswarm at any given time as they please)...otherwise nobody could explain the audacity of AAA's actions or the reaction/attitude paralysis suddenly suffered by Goonswarm. This is, IMHO , how things will look from now on , more and more. Red Alliance knows better than anyone in this game what the word "dictatorship" means! Afterall , they invented it...the russians. The times when BoB rulled in Eve will seem like the Golden Age of humanity compared to what the "Reds" secretly prepare for us.
But , I say again , this is my OWN OPPINION as regular Eve player.I do not speak on behalf of anyone except me!
And you thought Goons will show up and help you? You really have no clue. One more thing to remember, Russians (RA,-A-,etc etc) will NEVER shoot their friends, REAL friends that is. I guess you are not real
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.24 08:01:00 -
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Yeah, Russians are best, more honorble, gloorious nation in the world. There is no man like russian man.
Only thing i like about Russians (RA/AAA, etc,etc) is their Anthem.
Speaking of which, dont talk **** and stick to ingame politic and not global RL explanations me, myself and I ------> |
WowZilla
The Leeroy Jenkins Project
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Posted - 2008.01.24 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Malaphar Well , to be more precise, AAA did not bring only a mom and a couple of carriers.... The displacement of forces from AAA's side was huge : more than 60 capitals (of which 35-40 were dreads) and over 140-150 Battleships. First thing they did, after they arrived in QRBN- system (1 jump from C3-0YD),was to jump in C3 and head directly to our cyno-jammer POS , which they managed to incapacitate pretty quick. Afterwards , the capitals jumped in C3 and started to shoot at KoS Station services (of which the fitting service was completely incapacitated and put offline) and put POSes (they had at least 3 - 4 Freighters which arrived together with the 140+ BS fleet). So far they managed to destroy the cyno-jammer , to put 4 POSes online and to incapacitate the Station's Fitting Service.
I put here all the facts just to show that their actions were extremly well planned for a long time. In the meanwhile , Goonswarm's answer to their attack was something like "aaah....it's nothing ... they only want some action...relax!" but, after we mentioned their POSes being brought in reinforced mode and their other actions , suddenly the goonies broke any contact with our officials and no answer was received from that part anymore.
IMHO , behind these events are the leaders of Red Alliance (the true rullers of the Coalition , those who are known to give direct orders to any AAA and/or Goonswarm at any given time as they please)...otherwise nobody could explain the audacity of AAA's actions or the reaction/attitude paralysis suddenly suffered by Goonswarm. This is, IMHO , how things will look from now on , more and more. Red Alliance knows better than anyone in this game what the word "dictatorship" means! Afterall , they invented it...the russians. The times when BoB rulled in Eve will seem like the Golden Age of humanity compared to what the "Reds" secretly prepare for us.
But , I say again , this is my OWN OPPINION as regular Eve player.I do not speak on behalf of anyone except me!
oh dear. I recommend you and DMC team up immediatley. You and them seem to like taking your own alliance into a ****storm. ______________________ I am the worst poaster |
Terry Zen
Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.24 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malaphar Well , to be more precise, AAA did not bring only a mom and a couple of c Red Alliance knows better than anyone in this game what the word "dictatorship" means! Afterall , they invented it...the russians. The times when BoB rulled in Eve will seem like the Golden Age of humanity compared to what the "Reds" secretly prepare for us.
rofl russians invented dictatorship you better take some histroy lessons. This whole anti russian campagain sucks tbh, when then its RA not russians. Again the western civilization seems to proof massive intolerance
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Malaphar
Amarr Making Our Way to Stars Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zorland
Originally by: Malaphar Well , to be more precise, AAA did not bring only a mom and a couple of carriers.... The displacement of forces from AAA's side was huge : more than 60 capitals (of which 35-40 were dreads) and over 140-150 Battleships. First thing they did, after they arrived in QRBN- system (1 jump from C3-0YD),was to jump in C3 and head directly to our cyno-jammer POS , which they managed to incapacitate pretty quick. Afterwards , the capitals jumped in C3 and started to shoot at KoS Station services (of which the fitting service was completely incapacitated and put offline) and put POSes (they had at least 3 - 4 Freighters which arrived together with the 140+ BS fleet). So far they managed to destroy the cyno-jammer , to put 4 POSes online and to incapacitate the Station's Fitting Service.
I put here all the facts just to show that their actions were extremly well planned for a long time. In the meanwhile , Goonswarm's answer to their attack was something like "aaah....it's nothing ... they only want some action...relax!" but, after we mentioned their POSes being brought in reinforced mode and their other actions , suddenly the goonies broke any contact with our officials and no answer was received from that part anymore.
IMHO , behind these events are the leaders of Red Alliance (the true rullers of the Coalition , those who are known to give direct orders to any AAA and/or Goonswarm at any given time as they please)...otherwise nobody could explain the audacity of AAA's actions or the reaction/attitude paralysis suddenly suffered by Goonswarm. This is, IMHO , how things will look from now on , more and more. Red Alliance knows better than anyone in this game what the word "dictatorship" means! Afterall , they invented it...the russians. The times when BoB rulled in Eve will seem like the Golden Age of humanity compared to what the "Reds" secretly prepare for us.
But , I say again , this is my OWN OPPINION as regular Eve player.I do not speak on behalf of anyone except me!
And you thought Goons will show up and help you? You really have no clue. One more thing to remember, Russians (RA,-A-,etc etc) will NEVER shoot their friends, REAL friends that is. I guess you are not real
I don't think you understand what I wanted to pinpoint...Of course I didn't RELY on Goons to step in or to help us in any way! The only reason I "quoted" Goons' name was to underline the REAL power and influence in the Coalition....that being Red Alliance.If they ORDER that nobody is to interfere then not Goons and nobody else would break their ORDERS! The only reason I can imagine KoS leadership had contacts with Goons' people is because they wanted to see whether Goons knew anything about this full-scale aggression on a Coalition member or they were also left in the dark by the RA masters!
But yes, this is right , sooner or later this would have happened anyways....afterall the Coalition actually is IAC/AAA/RA + Goons and TCF as "elite" meatshield + a number of other "lesser" meatshield alliances like KoS and the rest! Hope you get the point!
Again, this is my OWN and PERSONAL oppinion! Flame it as much as you want and like! :)
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:08:00 -
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Poor coalition members. They finally starting to understand who are the real masters of the coalition, and who really shouts orders and plots the course. If they give it a bit more thinking earlier, they wouldn't be in position they are now.
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Malaphar
Amarr Making Our Way to Stars Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:10:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Terry Zen
Originally by: Malaphar Well , to be more precise, AAA did not bring only a mom and a couple of c Red Alliance knows better than anyone in this game what the word "dictatorship" means! Afterall , they invented it...the russians. The times when BoB rulled in Eve will seem like the Golden Age of humanity compared to what the "Reds" secretly prepare for us.
rofl russians invented dictatorship you better take some histroy lessons. This whole anti russian campagain sucks tbh, when then its RA not russians. Again the western civilization seems to proof massive intolerance
:) The MODERN HISTORY term of "dictatorship" was (re)invented by Joseph Vissarionovich STALIN.And he was russian.... I don't state that ALL russians have it (the dictatorship sense) in their blood, but more than 75 years of Stalinistic Dictatorship tend to influence the people's thinking for generations. And, by the way , I ain't no Western Civilisation member...quite on the contrary....I was born more than 35 years ago and still live in an Eastern Ex-Comunist Block country...I should know what stalinistic dictatorship means..:)
IMHO
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Malaphar
Amarr Making Our Way to Stars Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania Poor coalition members. They finally starting to understand who are the real masters of the coalition, and who really shouts orders and plots the course. If they give it a bit more thinking earlier, they wouldn't be in position they are now.
Just my point! Props mate...excellently put!
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:12:00 -
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KOS about to join RISE, FIX, YouWhat, and DMC in the "People Who Thought They Mattered But Were Severely Deluded" Hall of Fame.
-- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Rumpelstilski
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:12:00 -
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Edited by: Rumpelstilski on 24/01/2008 09:15:18 It's interesting to watch a POS siege from inside the shields with all little lights flashing against the shields and it sure was fun tackling that moros in with my merlin, so I'm more or less fine with the action that finally came :)
And let's be honest about it, it was a matter of time. The weakest entity is scheduled to die in any dog-eat-dog world.
And I'm a noob, really :) and I don't really understand eve inner workings and it's history that much although I have grown to respect them to be as complex and as subtle as RL politics. That's what I don't understand, maybe older members of the community can clear this matter up.
As far as I understand RA said "no taking sovs between the members of coalition"? Right?
Logically, I can find three possible alternatives. Not one of them is one I would have dared to believe. Well maybe I can believe the last one :)
- AAA challenges RA will and global interests?
- RA didn't really mean it when they said it (that's called a lie, no?)
- RA really meant what it said, but that deal is off from some time in the past but no one told KOS leadership?
The first option means AAA is getting ambitious, the second one suggests dishonor from an alliance I have heard values honor. The third option would explain many of the KOS defections from last couple of weeks (good luck to their new alliances) and also means gloves are off within the southern coallition, no?
Older players, please elaborate :) After a good discussion, we might even put it on a vote since the matter at hand is a bit bigger then poor ol' KOS :) We can also put a vote on "The weakest alliance in south after KOS dies" :-)
Best regards,
Rump :)
Disclaimer: my views don't represent the views of my corp or my alliance, but hey :) I didn't express any views :)
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:20:00 -
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Your first mistake: You think AAA is part of "The Coalition".
AAA is AAA. True, many of their objectives mesh with the RSF. But they serve only themselves.
-- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Rumpelstilski
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: Rumpelstilski on 24/01/2008 09:23:18 Thunderstroke, I'm pretty sure RA and Goons think of them as a part of the coalition? lol Is it really all a misunderstanding?
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:26:00 -
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Rumpelsticky... Corp and Alliance ticker ----> turn those on, otherwise mods will delete your post.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Rumpelstilski Edited by: Rumpelstilski on 24/01/2008 09:23:18 Thunderstroke, I'm pretty sure RA and Goons think of them as a part of the coalition? lol Is it really all a misunderstanding?
No, it is not. But they probably think that KOS is not part of the coalition anymore. Why? Because they think they can do just fine without them. I guess KOS was not a REAL friend.
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Liam Galagher
Savey
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:28:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Malaphar
:) The MODERN HISTORY term of "dictatorship" was (re)invented by Joseph Vissarionovich STALIN.And he was russian....
wasnt STALIN a georgian?
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Malaphar
I don't think you understand what I wanted to pinpoint...Of course I didn't RELY on Goons to step in or to help us in any way! The only reason I "quoted" Goons' name was to underline the REAL power and influence in the Coalition....that being Red Alliance.If they ORDER that nobody is to interfere then not Goons and nobody else would break their ORDERS! The only reason I can imagine KoS leadership had contacts with Goons' people is because they wanted to see whether Goons knew anything about this full-scale aggression on a Coalition member or they were also left in the dark by the RA masters!
But yes, this is right , sooner or later this would have happened anyways....afterall the Coalition actually is IAC/AAA/RA + Goons and TCF as "elite" meatshield + a number of other "lesser" meatshield alliances like KoS and the rest! Hope you get the point!
Again, this is my OWN and PERSONAL oppinion! Flame it as much as you want and like! :)
So you didn't know who runs the show? I did, and I don't even belong to coalition like you. You see, Goons don't run ****. They run around, manipulating people to join them against their enemy. They will do whatever it takes when they need you. Ask TCF, they even sung French national anthem on TS to win their harts. Unfortunatelly for you, Russian masters (RA,-A- etc etc) decided that many of the smaller wheels on the train don't have purpose anymore and now is the time to get ride of you all. They will start with easy to kill alliances like KOS, and slowly work the way up, leaving the Goons for the last.
You are dead already, so the real question is who is next? Black Out? IAC? TCF? I guess time will tell. But, don't you worry about it, get your ship ready and go kill BOB. They are bad, bad people.
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:31:00 -
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Edited by: Aphotic Raven on 24/01/2008 09:31:58
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke KOS about to join RISE, FIX, YouWhat, and DMC in the "People Who Thought They Mattered But Were Severely Deluded" Hall of Fame.
Hehe I like how you Goons get rid of them once you use them, like used condom. CA,IMP,KOS who is next?
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Test Icle
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:35:00 -
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magistre
Caldari KDS Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:49:00 -
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It is just anoying to be killed off my coalition members and lied to then ignored by the allies that said they would come and help.
Had fun chasing off 2 dread pilots but 4 hours of sitting under the PoS shield was boring.
All the other smaller alliances better watch your backs, there are bloody daggers pointing your way.
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Liam Galagher
Savey
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:50:00 -
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Barthezz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: Barthezz on 24/01/2008 09:51:22
Originally by: Malaphar
I put here all the facts just to show that their actions were extremly well planned for a long time. In the meanwhile , Goonswarm's answer to their attack was something like "aaah....it's nothing ... they only want some action...relax!" but, after we mentioned their POSes being brought in reinforced mode and their other actions , suddenly the goonies broke any contact with our officials and no answer was received from that part anymore.
Goons & AAA are friends Goons & KOS are 'friends'
AAA = 60 caps on a normal evening + 140 (apparently) support KOS = convo Goons shout *welp*
Which friend do you think Goons will pick?
/me thinks he'll get slapped for writing this by Dan, I'm sorry Dan I wont post again !
Now if you had been attacked by multiple alliance, then you actually had a reason to call in support, now it just makes you look weak. ---
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: magistre It is just anoying to be killed off my coalition members and lied to then ignored by the allies that said they would come and help.
Had fun chasing off 2 dread pilots but 4 hours of sitting under the PoS shield was boring.
All the other smaller alliances better watch your backs, there are bloody daggers pointing your way.
Sorry, but It's a dog eat dog world my friend and you are...
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Malaphar
Amarr Making Our Way to Stars Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Aphotic Raven Edited by: Aphotic Raven on 24/01/2008 09:37:27
Not to burst anyones bubble, but if RA arent leading the coalition then who is? All this talk of evil RA masterminds is a bit sad... I think we'd rather have plans coming from somewhere than all run around like headless chickens? Just a thought..
Well you are right to some extent... Empires come and go...same did D2 , ASCN , BoB (close to downfall but still remaining the most formidable PvP force in the game....and they also have the means they need)... If BoB will fall from being a mighty empire , the only REAL power in the game will be RA.And MODERN HISTORY proved russians come but EXTREMLY RARELY go (only Afghanistan was a counter-example...but look how that country looks like nowadays). IMHO this is the most frightening sight of future EvE...A game rulled by Russians! Someone always runs SOME shows, it's natural...but what we, the players of EVE,must prevent is that nobody , no entity , should run ALL EVE! Afterall , that is why people rally against BoB, isn't it? We do not need another version , much more sinister, of BoB,do we?
Maybe we need to reconsider a bit the actual status of "the Great War"...IMHO "the Great War" should not be the war against BoB , but the war against FULL POWER TO DOMINATE concentrated in one's hands! BoB represented such a threat , we made the Coalition to overthrone and overpower them!And we actually did!They are now limited in only 1 region of Eve , which is far less than any other BIG ALLIANCE owns! Now look around , what do you see? A big RED SWAMP covering more and more space,like a red plague!
For those of you who have seen it , remember the cartoon "Animal Farm"? Some similarities IMHO....
My personal impressions of course....feel free to flame! :)
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:07:00 -
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Sorry, but you failed your propaganda roll...either that or I just successfully saved vs. bullsh**, because your diatribe doesn't make me want to rise up and throw off the yoke of my despotic russian overlords.
Just remember, empires fall -- there are no exceptions. If "ZOMG teh Russianz!" rise to dominate 0.0 politics, eventually someone or something will knock them down.
-- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Eskalin
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke KOS about to join RISE, FIX, YouWhat, and DMC in the "People Who Thought They Mattered But Were Severely Deluded" Hall of Fame.
ORLY? whats the next port of call for the failboat, Captain Stubing?
If babies were not meant to be eaten then they wouldn't be hibachi sized.
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Zorland
Minmatar Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Zorland on 24/01/2008 10:18:35
Originally by: Malaphar
Well you are right to some extent... Empires come and go...same did D2 , ASCN , BoB (close to downfall but still remaining the most formidable PvP force in the game....and they also have the means they need)... If BoB will fall from being a mighty empire , the only REAL power in the game will be RA.And MODERN HISTORY proved russians come but EXTREMLY RARELY go (only Afghanistan was a counter-example...but look how that country looks like nowadays). IMHO this is the most frightening sight of future EvE...A game rulled by Russians! Someone always runs SOME shows, it's natural...but what we, the players of EVE,must prevent is that nobody , no entity , should run ALL EVE! Afterall , that is why people rally against BoB, isn't it? We do not need another version , much more sinister, of BoB,do we?
Maybe we need to reconsider a bit the actual status of "the Great War"...IMHO "the Great War" should not be the war against BoB , but the war against FULL POWER TO DOMINATE concentrated in one's hands! BoB represented such a threat , we made the Coalition to overthrone and overpower them!And we actually did!They are now limited in only 1 region of Eve , which is far less than any other BIG ALLIANCE owns! Now look around , what do you see? A big RED SWAMP covering more and more space,like a red plague!
For those of you who have seen it , remember the cartoon "Animal Farm"? Some similarities IMHO....
My personal impressions of course....feel free to flame! :)
OMG .... That's not why you shoot BOB. You joined the fight against BOB because you got manipulated (in game and on the forums) by the BOB enemy. Goons for the most part, and others that had personall vendetta for something that BOB did to them at one point in time. They made BOB look like bad guys, when in fact they are not better or worst then the others. It's called "lynch mob mentality" and you became a victim of it. Next time, use your brain. Oh wait, it's too late, your POSs are going BOOM!
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:20:00 -
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Malaphar
Amarr Making Our Way to Stars Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2008.01.24 10:20:00 -
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Well , all these being said...I don't think KoS will dissappear as an entity, at least not the core of the alliance.We might relocate ... yes....even in empire...yes if the situation will demand it. But what will also happen , and I'm sure others who were in our present situation before us feel it too , the number of people disgruntled by the Coalition's actions and politics will grow more and more... And , at some point , an unexpected turn of events might happen!Unexpected by the Coalition of course... *evil smile*
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