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Tanatloc	Posted - 2008.01.24 17:18:00 - [1] lo, i've been playin arround wiv a tanked sac but i just bought some snake's and i really wanna test out a nano-sac but i'm havin some probs wiv the balance between speed/tank/dps. thx
Foocurr	Posted - 2008.01.24 17:36:00 - [2] 5 x HAM II(faction ammo) 1 x Faction Medium Neut(14km) 1 x Domination 10mn MWD 1 x Domination Warp disruptor 2 x LSE II 3 x Overdrive II 2 x BCU II 2 x Polycarbons Very fast and lots of DPS. That wasn't so hard. - Thread Response System A - Unnecessary whine. Please Adapt. B - Some or all of your opinions are incorrect. C - Thread already exists. D - You are correct.
HowlinMad Murdock Caldari No Trademark	Posted - 2008.01.24 18:46:00 - [3] hell with snakes you could prob do in the lows 2 BCS II 1 MAR II 2 OD II prob still get 3.5-4k but the 3 OD 2 BCS will still be good, get you up to i think 4.5-5.5k if you've got good skills
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.01.24 19:03:00 - [4] Originally by: Foocurr 5 x HAM II(faction ammo) 1 x Faction Medium Neut(14km) 1 x Domination 10mn MWD 1 x Domination Warp disruptor 2 x LSE II 3 x Overdrive II 2 x BCU II 2 x Polycarbons Very fast and lots of DPS. That wasn't so hard. Close, but not quite... You won't orbit in HAM range for **** without at least 1x inertia stab. With snakes you'll probably want to use 2 (I do), and set orbit range to 11k. More realistically you'll orbit around 16-18k... that's WITH 2x inertia stabs. HAM range is 20k max skilled, unless you use velocity rigs, so the faction disruptor is a waste of isk. Also, I go 5.5k/sec with just a t2 mwd. That's fast enough IMO, and again doesn't justify the cost when a Rapier can uncloak and make short work of your investment. It's bad enough the polys cost over 100m... but if you have isk coming out your ass, sure why not get a domi mwd. This is coming from an experienced nanosac pilot who flies with snakes. Navy HAMs are a must, but please don't buy them. The prices on them are high enough already.
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.01.24 19:42:00 - [5] The key here is orbit speed. This effects how much you slow down between turns when manual piloting as well. A pilot with top nav skills, harwires, and snakes will be better off with 1 or 2 inertia stabs. Otherwise you'll find yourself out of HAM range quite often. If you set your orbit range really low to compensate, you'll find that you actually orbit slower with 3x OD than say 2x OD and 1x istab. Just try different lows, go outside and orbit something making sure you're -1k or less of your max HAM range the whole time. You'll eventually find the sweet spot.
Foocurr	Posted - 2008.01.24 20:52:00 - [6] Originally by: Kruel Originally by: Foocurr 5 x HAM II(faction ammo) 1 x Faction Medium Neut(14km) 1 x Domination 10mn MWD 1 x Domination Warp disruptor 2 x LSE II 3 x Overdrive II 2 x BCU II 2 x Polycarbons Very fast and lots of DPS. That wasn't so hard. Close, but not quite... You won't orbit in HAM range for ** without at least 1x inertia stab. With snakes you'll probably want to use 2 (I do), and set orbit range to 11k. More realistically you'll orbit around 16-18k... that's WITH 2x inertia stabs. HAM range is 20k max skilled, unless you use velocity rigs, so the faction disruptor is a waste of isk. Also, I go 5.5k/sec with just a t2 mwd. That's fast enough IMO, and again doesn't justify the cost when a Rapier can uncloak and make short work of your investment. It's bad enough the polys cost over 100m... but if you have isk coming out your ass, sure why not get a domi mwd. This is coming from an experienced nanosac pilot who flies with snakes. Navy HAMs are a must, but please don't buy them. The prices on them are high enough already. Well, I figured if you are running snakes, you might as well pimp out the fittings. I see what you mean with the i-stabs. I just recently threw one into my setup as well. - Thread Response System** A - Unnecessary whine. Please Adapt. B - Some or all of your opinions are incorrect. C - Thread already exists. D - You are correct.
Carth Merrol	Posted - 2008.01.24 21:02:00 - [7] Originally by: Kruel Originally by: Foocurr 5 x HAM II(faction ammo) 1 x Faction Medium Neut(14km) 1 x Domination 10mn MWD 1 x Domination Warp disruptor 2 x LSE II 3 x Overdrive II 2 x BCU II 2 x Polycarbons Very fast and lots of DPS. That wasn't so hard. Close, but not quite... You won't orbit in HAM range for **** without at least 1x inertia stab. With snakes you'll probably want to use 2 (I do), and set orbit range to 11k. More realistically you'll orbit around 16-18k... that's WITH 2x inertia stabs. HAM range is 20k max skilled, unless you use velocity rigs, so the faction disruptor is a waste of isk. Also, I go 5.5k/sec with just a t2 mwd. That's fast enough IMO, and again doesn't justify the cost when a Rapier can uncloak and make short work of your investment. It's bad enough the polys cost over 100m... but if you have isk coming out your ass, sure why not get a domi mwd. This is coming from an experienced nanosac pilot who flies with snakes. Navy HAMs are a must, but please don't buy them. The prices on them are high enough already. Actually fulled skilled you can get HAMs out to around 70-80k fully skilled, but that's only with Advanced Long Range Heavy Assault Missiles.
Tanatloc	Posted - 2008.01.25 15:39:00 - [8] thx for the info ^^
Midnighter The Causality Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.01.25 16:29:00 - [9] I run something a little different. 5x 'Arablest' HAM Launchers (waiting for T2 skill) 1x 220mm Vulcan AC II (Barrage Ammo) Warp Disruptor II Signal Booster II (lock time script) Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier 2x BCU II 2x OD II Inertia stabilizers 2x Polycarbon RIGS It's not the fastest vessel in space, but it can usually web anything it can't outmaneuver lash out with a hefty DPS. It's fielded either for 1 vs 1 hunts or as part of small skirmish gangs. Ideally I need T2 launchers and a more complimentary implant set, but it's going to be a work in progress for some time. It's been very successful so far and won a number of engagements without ever having any trouble. ***
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.01.25 16:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Carth Merrol Actually fulled skilled you can get HAMs out to around 70-80k fully skilled, but that's only with Advanced Long Range Heavy Assault Missiles. True, but using javelins causes your top speed to drop... which kind of defeats the purpose of using a nanosac.

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