Take Mittens for example. He's the head of the CSM, runs Goonswarm, proclaims he's the most influential player...

I am confuse, is this a legitimate question or a stealth attack on Mitani?

If CCP ever find out that somebody relevant to them, like Chribba for example, were to have violated the EULA in a bannable manner, do you think they'd burry it or let them off with a lesser punishment than they would say John Doe?

It is a stealth attack.

I highly doubt CCP would give a tough punishment on any CSM member caught for the first time.

Hell, CCP probably settle with a promise not to do it again.

Last thing CCP want's to do is have the CSM mad at them, especially since CCP is still busy placating the player base for last summer.

Baaa, says the sheep. Slaughterhouse is thataway.

lmao sheep calling hahaahh

Mittani support boting does it count

Guess you weren't around when CCP removed Ankhesentapemkah from the CSM.

lol. Sure he is

this guy thinks i log into eve online more than once in a blue moon

cute

yes it's biased, CCP Punkturis hates me, therefore she loves you all and by doing this her feelings are biased towards me

CCP Punkturis hear meh

whaaaaaat how could I hate you?

you're the only one who has offered to make streets of flowers just for me!

whaaaaaat how could I hate you?

you're the only one who has offered to make streets of flowers just for me!

CCP hates lone wolf players and for some uncomfortable reason it turns me on.

If CCP ever find out that somebody relevant to them, like Chribba for example, were to have violated the EULA in a bannable manner, do you think they'd burry it or let them off with a lesser punishment than they would say John Doe?

Take Mittens for example. He's the head of the CSM, runs Goonswarm, proclaims he's the most influential player, and all together makes a lot of noise in Eve. CCP has player accounts that are anonymously apart of the population, hire people from Eve, and is very active in the community. It stands to reason CCP has some kind of relation to Mittens. If mittens were to bot and raise the flags that CCP uses to track bots, do you think they'd go easier on him than anybody else? Perhaps let him off with a warning where they'd usually ban somebody? After all, he's on the CSM, leads an alliance, and does stuff.

I find myself strangely at ease with the idea of favouritism in EVE Online; to a point. Allow me to explain, using Gogela's example. If, for example, I was engaged in RMT and were caught doing so I would expect a full ban immediately. This would seem fair to me, because, well. I broke the rules and in terms of my value to EVE Online I'm just another $15.

If the same happened to the Mittani or to Chribba or to another of the EVE celebrities I'd expect them to receive a warning, a wallet hit and closer scrutiny in the future. Because, the cost of banning them is far larger than just another $15. They are the types of players who devote a significant amount of their personal time and real resources to the game. In a way they are like mini CCP employees. So while I wouldn't expect them to get off scot-free; I would expect the penalties against them to be lower because they are more valuable to the game overall.

By that token, of course, I expect the odds of them being involved in something dodgy is also commensurately lower because of the higher level of scrutiny they automatically have. Or maybe that's just a day-dream

See... I disagree with this. In particular the way you are monetizing your "value" vs someone better known is wrong within the context of the policy.

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If the perception was that there is favoritism in eve and a nub can't get a fair shake, CCP's going to have to sell their whole building.

I can't tell if you're trying to reassure us it doesn't exist. It certainly doesn't look like it.

This was offered to be planted/created in Iceland? (In Atlanta, she could just throw some Kudzu around, toss polka-dot paint on it and it'd look like 'streets of flowers')

Yeah, I think Tanya might be my favorite weird stalker - it's a tough competition though, I have a few



just in New Eden

Did you even read my original post? Or, is your lack of an out right denial an attempt to say there is favoritism when it comes to enforcing the EULA?

I have nothing to do with banning people or seeing if people are enforcing the EULA. I just saw Tanya was talking about me so I replied to her. My reply to her wasn't a reply to your original post.

I'm sorry I posted unrelated stuff in your thread - won't post again.

Well, from remembering the "Monkey incident" which was (is) a member of PL, EULA was broken for MANY times/ways. And, as far as i know nobody was banned, so there might be some kind of "favors" for the biggies.

For example I will avoid talking to that annoying guy who wouldn't leave me alone the last time I met him at the pub. I will also not buy him any drinks because he's shown that he's rather annoying when he is drunk and I don't feel like being annoyed.

Officially? Of course CCP don't play favourites. Unofficially? Is anyone really naive enough to believe that it doesn't happen? The only thing you can do is hope that its not to widespread and doesn't shaft the players to any great extent. Not that I believe that CCP is particularly corrupt or anything, its just how it works for any company or service provider.

People who work in IT call centres at a telecoms firm get friends moved up the priority list, GMs from MMO providers pass things along to RL friends that play the game, the guy who works in supply's will get stationary for his friends.

All that day to day dodgyness and corruption is a part of life, CCP as a company made up of human beings isn't magically exempt from it.

Ah, I hear you. If I gave the impression a new player would not get a fair shake, my apologies. I'd want them to get a fair shake according to the rules published by CCP. However, I see more value in the notoriety and fame that brand names like the Mittani and Chribba and others bring to EVE Online than I see in the value of their subscription dollars, so I am okay with the idea of people who are very visible testaments to EVE Online getting a bit more slack on their first offences.

All I wanted to know was what cool SELECT and UPDATE statements you used

P.S. Be nice to Punkturis. I'd give you a reason but you shouldn't need one to be nice to people.

God love you for trying but this the is EVE forums, are you new round here or something?

I show favoritism in all aspects of my life and do not feel that it is inappropriate.

this guy thinks i log into eve online more than once in a blue moon

cute

All I wanted to know was what cool SELECT and UPDATE statements you used

Unless I am missing the point of some sort of Mittani whimsical joke, why is he on the CSM?

Don't over-think anything the Goons say. It's usually a troll anyway... either that or a scam.

Got to love the sheer amount of autonomous Goon-Hate from a bunch of people that have probably never talked to or encountered a goon in EvE. We just take forums very, very seriously... and have our own internal humor and witty sense
of sarcasm, sorry if thats hard to understand.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?









shazbot

What's the "we" you talk about, Mr non-Goon?

Got to love the sheer amount of autonomous Goon-Hate from a bunch of people that have probably never talked to or encountered a goon in EvE. We just take forums very, very seriously... and have our own internal humor and witty sense
of sarcasm, sorry if thats hard to understand.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

shazbot

Ha! Suicide Kings! Actually since your recruitment has opened up I've been kicking around the idea of applying to join. I'm a fan of your work.

I don't have a problem w/ Goons... but yah let's be honest: scam/troll/lulz is 90%+ of their in-game content w/ respect to others.

Unless I am missing the point of some sort of Mittani whimsical joke, why is he on the CSM?

this guy thinks i log into eve online more than once in a blue moon

cute

Got to love the sheer amount of autonomous Goon-Hate from a bunch of people that have probably never talked to or encountered a goon in EvE. We just take forums very, very seriously... and have our own internal humor and witty sense
of sarcasm, sorry if thats hard to understand.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

I know little and care even less about the Goons. As do most folk in Eve.

But if they and their friends need to feel that I have any interest in them they are welcome to do so.

My only, and even then, rather mild interest in The Mittan, is in his role as a serving member of the CSM.









shazbot

I was going to type a witty reply.. but lol, Initiative.

Tell me all about ship losses without tech income.