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bio spore	Posted - 2008.01.24 23:56:00 - [1] I had though that the introduction of the Heavy interceptors and their ability to stop every ship in their track 100% of the time was a mistake by CCP and that they would fix it at some point, but after reading their news post on the log in screen it looks like they actually ment it. damn way to go to totally unbalance a game, no ship should have 100% stopping power or even 95% the same as no ship should have 95% or 100% ability to get away
lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.24 23:59:00 - [2] Hey miz, whats up? 族---族 Latest Video : FAT- Camp
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:00:00 - [3] that ms dead yet? ------ Tides of Silence
Thargat Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:01:00 - [4] Originally by: bio spore I had though that the introduction of the Heavy interceptors and their ability to stop every ship in their track 100% of the time was a mistake by CCP and that they would fix it at some point, but after reading their news post on the log in screen it looks like they actually ment it. damn way to go to totally unbalance a game, no ship should have 100% stopping power or even 95% the same as no ship should have 95% or 100% ability to get away You know you can neut it, you can jam it, you can jump through a gate or you can blow it up. It won't stop you unless you allow it to do so. There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:11:00 - [5] Originally by: Thargat Originally by: bio spore I had though that the introduction of the Heavy interceptors and their ability to stop every ship in their track 100% of the time was a mistake by CCP and that they would fix it at some point, but after reading their news post on the log in screen it looks like they actually ment it. damn way to go to totally unbalance a game, no ship should have 100% stopping power or even 95% the same as no ship should have 95% or 100% ability to get away You know you can neut it, you can jam it, you can jump through a gate or you can blow it up. It won't stop you unless you allow it to do so. Don't forget you can also Damp it decoy it out-run it out-distance it scout it. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:20:00 - [6] Yes but none of that applys when some poor nub who barely knows how his own ship works let alone another gets pwnd at a camp with his 'travelling' wcs setup and looses a few hundred mil/bil in cargo that he thought was safe. Que forum rant. unless this a stealth rant by a mommy pilot of course Originally by: Nice Guy This means that the writer epicaly fails at english. Irony. So delicious.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:33:00 - [7] Originally by: Splagada that ms dead yet? Nope, bought it.
Cybarite Gallente Aristotle Enterprises	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:36:00 - [8] Edited by: Cybarite on 25/01/2008 00:36:10 Motherships! No they really weren't for solo camping gates in lowsec. ... Why do I PvP? Because I love the feeling I get when I see the pretty lights and know that someone somewhere is screaming incoherently at their computer screen.
Thargat Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Zeba Yes but none of that applys when some poor nub who barely knows how his own ship works let alone another gets pwnd at a camp with his 'travelling' wcs setup and looses a few hundred mil/bil in cargo that he thought was safe. Que forum rant. unless this a stealth rant by a mommy pilot of course Not many nub's have a few hundred millions. HICs usually only engage targets WORTH engaging (wich rarely are nubs). People with millions (or billions) of ISK have played long enough to know better than going around un escorted. (but I get what you'r saying, no pun intended) =) There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:47:00 - [10] Life must be SO HARD for mothership pilots now. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:47:00 - [11] Originally by: Thargat People with millions (or billions) of ISK have played long enough to know better than going around un escorted. ? Look at our own killboards I R BE KING (and queen) OF CHEESE!
Thargat Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Thargat People with millions (or billions) of ISK have played long enough to know better than going around un escorted. ? Look at our own killboards No, it only makes me cry when I see how much I'm missing There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.01.25 00:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Thargat Not many nub's have a few hundred millions. You've obviously been in an organized player corp for too long and have forgotten what its like to be in empire as a real player and not some alliance members empire alt. Just last week witnessed a year old player in an Obelisk with a cargo of 750 mil in long limbed roes jump into a known low sec camp which was being called out as such in the local chat and get promptly destroyed. Time in game has nothing to do with being a nub. Originally by: Nice Guy This means that the writer epicaly fails at english. Irony. So delicious.
SloBones mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.25 01:07:00 - [14] Edited by: SloBones on 25/01/2008 01:08:37 Carebear Stare Activate The HIC has major drawbacks. It's cap is next to nothing. It is susceptible to ECM no ship ever has 100% capability. Stop whining. Just because Pirates/outlaws actually have a decent ship for once doesn't mean it needs to get nerfed to high hell. I'm really getting tired of the carebears crying about how life unfair that they aren't invincible. CCP should nerf HULKS they have too good of resists they shouldn't be allowed to perma- tank rats even in high sec. NERF the exhumers. ***** Noobs if you can't take the heat stay the hell out of low sec and 0.0 And post with your main you**got or don't post at all.
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.25 01:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Thargat Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Thargat People with millions (or billions) of ISK have played long enough to know better than going around un escorted. ? Look at our own killboards No, it only makes me cry when I see how much I'm missing X up more I R BE KING (and queen) OF CHEESE!
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.25 01:15:00 - [16] Originally by: SloBones ***** Noobs if you can't take the heat stay the hell out of low sec and 0.0 Well when Eve Uni did that, you (well Rak) decced them I R BE KING (and queen) OF CHEESE!**
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.25 01:18:00 - [17] Originally by: Thargat Originally by: Zeba Yes but none of that applys when some poor nub who barely knows how his own ship works let alone another gets pwnd at a camp with his 'travelling' wcs setup and looses a few hundred mil/bil in cargo that he thought was safe. Que forum rant. unless this a stealth rant by a mommy pilot of course Not many nub's have a few hundred millions. HICs usually only engage targets WORTH engaging (wich rarely are nubs). People with millions (or billions) of ISK have played long enough to know better than going around un escorted. (but I get what you'r saying, no pun intended) =) I would point you at a pair of threads in CAOD involving mommy kills recently...I think the MS dumping that occurred when HICs were introduced has put big ass ships in little ass hands.
SloBones mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.01.25 01:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: SloBones ******* Noobs if you can't take the heat stay the hell out of low sec and 0.0 Well when Eve Uni did that, you (well Rak) decced them I'm not allowed in high sec something about being a criminal? The alliance is new so what rak has done really isn't my call or is what they do now. They dec whom ever they see fit and I think that's fair but that's a whole different argument. My main point is the whine posts really need to stop. Every carebear gets their was. Why the EOS got nerfed into uselessness as with the Myrm. It's just stupid how a transport pilot losses a max stabbed ship to someone in a HIC and comes and cries on the forum. Why not use a scout (oh look there's a gate camp I'll come back later), or bring an escort that can ECM or attack any attacking ships. No No that makes too much sense. Lets come to the forum (with a newly created alt to avoid anyone finding out who I am and decing me out of spite) and cry about how overpowered a ship is because I'm lazy or have no friends or am too dumb to use a scout.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.01.25 01:43:00 - [19] Originally by: SloBones Edited by: SloBones on 25/01/2008 01:08:37 Carebear Stare Activate The HIC has major drawbacks. It's cap is next to nothing. It is susceptible to ECM no ship ever has 100% capability. Stop whining. This. My experience with HICs One: WT in HIC scrams me at a gate in hi-sec corpy warps in with Rook, jams him so hard all his targeting screens show endless loops of tubgirl. I warp away. Two: Pirate in HIC scams me in lo-sec. After a few seconds to lock him back, pirate HIC "OW MY CAP THAT HURTS" as 2x Hvy Unstable neuts vaporise his cap. I warp away. One good thing about HICs: people stop thinking that warp core stabs are a substitute for thinking. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Ursula LeGuinn Versus Gloria Omnis	Posted - 2008.01.25 01:56:00 - [20] Originally by: Janu Hull I would point you at a pair of threads in CAOD involving mommy kills recently...I think the MS dumping that occurred when HICs were introduced has put big ass ships in little ass hands. I still lol hard when I read this description: "...This allows the module to scramble ships of any size, including ships normally immune to all forms of electronic warfare." A more blatant there has never been. ________________
SigSauer P229	Posted - 2008.01.25 02:45:00 - [21] load windows pinball and play that. when the ball goes down the middile i expect you will whine about game mechanics and not stop to think it might actually be your lack of brains and understanding that caused you to lose or maybe your a mothership pilot who got the shi*s cos the iwin button fell off his 'omgwtfsolopwnmobile'
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.01.25 03:13:00 - [22] Originally by: SloBones The HIC has major drawbacks. It's cap is next to nothing. I'm sure that running that scrambler and sensor booster is very stressful on the capacitor. And what T2 resists? Originally by: SloBones It is susceptible to ECM no ship ever has 100% capability. Irrelevant. Since the ship is fine until it can lock as fast as a frigate, and at that point any kind of EWAR you can throw at it is pointless. Originally by: SloBones Just because Pirates/outlaws actually have a decent ship for once doesn't mean it needs to get nerfed to high hell. What the fux? Pirates didn't have decent ships? LOL Originally by: SloBones I'm really getting tired of the carebears crying about how life unfair that they aren't invincible. Filling your lowslots with warp stabs, totally gimping your fit, tank, and targeting ability for a chance to get through a gate camp = invincibility! Who knew? Originally by: SloBones CCP should nerf HULKS they have too good of resists they shouldn't be allowed to perma- tank rats even in high sec. NERF the exhumers. Originally by: SloBones ***** Noobs if you can't take the heat stay the hell out of low sec and 0.0 Now there's an idea that we can live with! So long, killboard ers Originally by:** SloBones And post with your main you****got or don't post at all. Post. Seriously, who cares who you are?
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.25 03:35:00 - [23] They do jack all for DPS, kill the support and you're fine. Oh wait, that's what you should have always been doing. You should never be taking a supercapital anywhere without a nice support fleet. This is what CCP is pushing people towards. Using the ships in the intended responsible fashions, not going joy riding. The old style of play lost Shrike his first titan, and god knows how many MS pilots their pretty little toys. Don't be stupid, and you won't die, not even to a one of these lovely new ships.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.01.25 04:22:00 - [24] Originally by: Ungdall They do jack all for DPS, kill the support and you're fine. Oh wait, that's what you should have always been doing. You should never be taking a supercapital anywhere without a nice support fleet. This is what CCP is pushing people towards. Using the ships in the intended responsible fashions, not going joy riding. The old style of play lost Shrike his first titan, and god knows how many MS pilots their pretty little toys. Don't be stupid, and you won't die, not even to a one of these lovely new ships. Don't forget, every time a supercap dies, a veld miner smiles! CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
ZerKar Caldari Zen'Tar	Posted - 2008.01.25 05:52:00 - [25] I would only say that if the HIC can perma scramble someone's warp then there is no reason a well fit Caldari ECM boat should not be able to Perma Jam someone with 1 ECM. Same arguements apply, kill it with Drones, Bombs, or FoF. Get away from it, should be easy if it is Caldari. Scout it out first so you can avoid it if you do not want to be Jammed six ways from sunday. Likewise the Damp Boats should be able to Damp you so bad you would think you were flying a Titan - the Tank and Gank. All or nothing baby, that is the way I like to see it played. +++++++++++++++ I saw the Sign...! O.o
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2008.01.25 06:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Malcanis My experience with HICs One: WT in HIC scrams me at a gate in hi-sec corpy warps in with Rook, jams him so hard all his targeting screens show endless loops of tubgirl. I warp away. ROFL, thread winner!! That should go in a sig, seriously. -- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk." Yes. Yes I am.
Siege Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting	Posted - 2008.01.25 09:39:00 - [27] Originally by: ZerKar I would only say that if the HIC can perma scramble someone's warp then there is no reason a well fit Caldari ECM boat should not be able to Perma Jam someone with 1 ECM. Same arguements apply, kill it with Drones, Bombs, or FoF. Get away from it, should be easy if it is Caldari. Scout it out first so you can avoid it if you do not want to be Jammed six ways from sunday. Likewise the Damp Boats should be able to Damp you so bad you would think you were flying a Titan - the Tank and Gank. All or nothing baby, that is the way I like to see it played. Well, if you then also agree to only fitting 1 ECM per ship, and it can only be a multi-spec in 0.0 space.... then we might have something here. ------ begin signature ----- Little known Eve fact, The original race names were: Amarr Empire, Caldar Empire, Minmatar Republic, The Jovians, and The Remanaquie Federation.
Zaqar	Posted - 2008.01.25 09:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Malcanis hi-sec corpy warps in with Rook, jams him so hard all his targeting screens show endless loops of tubgirl.
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.25 10:13:00 - [29] Originally by: bio spore I had though that the introduction of the Heavy interceptors and their ability to stop every ship in their track 100% of the time was a mistake by CCP and that they would fix it at some point, but after reading their news post on the log in screen it looks like they actually ment it. damn way to go to totally unbalance a game, no ship should have 100% stopping power or even 95% the same as no ship should have 95% or 100% ability to get away The Heavy Interdictor's beam scrambler (for use in 0.1+ mainly, as bubbles dont work there) was added to the game for the very specific purpose of screwing over Mothership pilots that enjoy sitting at 0.1+ gates with their smartbombs going off. While such motherships are a non-issue to me (although I did lose an empty probe to one once when I was lazy), such motherships are pathetic, so I had to laugh with a hearty feeling of schadenfreude when CCP added HICs to the game. Play nice while you butcher each other.
Kwint Sommer Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.01.25 10:47:00 - [30] It only has 100% stopping power if it can lock you. By the way, warp stabilizers only give you 1 point, warp scramblers give you 2 points so it was always possible to lock any ship down, except super capitals and that needed to be fixed anyways. 5% Mining & Manufacturing Implants

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