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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.01.25 18:18:00 -
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I have never understood why we cannot see who it is we are buying something from within the market interface.
Escrow and Contract interface allows you to see who you are buying or contracting from. Why cant the market interface reveal that info also?
We should be able to make "political" statements with our wallets and make informed decisions on who (individual, Corp or Alliance) we are buying items from in the market.
When you order something online in RL (which is the closest analogy I can find for how the current market works), do you order items from "anonymous vendors"? Definately not.
We should have the same ability within Eves market.
Thanks in advance for consideration of this idea.
Cheers,
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.01.26 03:16:00 -
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Edited by: Prodigal on 26/01/2008 03:17:27
Just to add to those thoughts..........
CCP, you are in the process of re-invigorating the Council of Stellar Managment. From what I have read, most of you are very interested in how the community interacts and "regulates" each other.
Is there any better way to make a political statement or decision by, as they say: "put your money where your mouth is"?
Let us decide who we are going to buy items from in the market.
From the vendors point of view, availability of inventory and having a strong brand to market should be factors that affect the market. Allow vendors to "place a brand to their products", allow vendors to show who they are in a sell order.
Cheers,
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.01.27 20:45:00 -
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Another bump for the day.........
Come now everyone, dont you want to be able to buy things from the Corp or vendor you like or want to support?
As a vendor, wouldnt you want to build up a reputation and actually be able to market your Brand?
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.01.30 18:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Salpad
No.
This is exactly why brokers are used when doing deals on the market. I don't sell my stuff to you. I sell my stuff to you, to guard my anonymity against any possible bias that you might have, which might cause you to bypass my product and buy from someone else even though this someone else wants a 1% or 2% higher price.
That's exactly how the Market differs from Contracts. No need to change that.
This is like saying:
"Oh I love to pvp - pvp is great, as long as I can STAY CLOAKED all the time"
Ridiculous, plain and simple.
Cheers,
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.01.31 21:38:00 -
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HELLO....
I understand how the market works currently (ie the market uses brokers - hence the fees)
But if buyers could make an informed decision of whom they are buying from, then real "market pvp" could unfold.
As consumers, we all have the RIGHT to know who we are buying from. We should not have to wait to check out the wallet logs to see whom we buy a Raven or module from.
There should be REAL in game consequences on the market for the alliance or Corp you chose, or do not chose for that matter.
This could also open more gamestyle play avenues for the role players. Consumers could make choices based on faction, or geographical location, etc....
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.02.02 19:13:00 -
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Some good arguments going back and forth here.
Thanks all for those supporting the ideas brought up from the start.
We need to keep this topic open for CCP to acknowledge.
Cheers,
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.02.03 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Miyamoto Mushasi
Edited by: Miyamoto Mushasi on 03/02/2008 00:05:05
they make it so you can see who you are purchasing from ... then my corp war dec's your corp and you decide not to buy from me ... but my alt isnt in that corp and you buy my goods anyways ... really this knowledge is IMO unneccessary, the combat pilots you are facing in war probably arent the characters you are buying goods from, if it is them, it is probably on an alt, and in the end, if you want to shoot back bad enough, you'll buy the ammo anyway regardless of who's selling it. it's a nice concept i agree, but with all the alts out there its application would be pointless is all i'm saying. if i could really KNOW i wasn't buying from an enemy, then it'd get a /signed and i'd move on, but i can't and neither can any of you.
The whole point here is that the consumer would still have a CHOICE in WHO he/she is buying from.
Who cares how many alts are wasted for placement in Jita. Politically minded Eve Citizens could choose to only purchase from KNOWN Vendors, not nameless retail/trade alts.
CHOICE is the key word here.
In a free world market, CONSUMERS deserve and are entitled to a CHOICE.
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.02.06 21:45:00 -
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Lets not let this one get buried either.
Cheers,
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.02.11 20:07:00 -
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bummer,
I was hoping to get more dialog on this topic.
Still refusing to let it die......
Cheers,
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.02.13 21:52:00 -
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Not gonna let this one go.
Bump.
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2008.02.14 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Cmon, this is pretty transparent. If you want to know who has something on the market and is competing with you, buy a unit or sell a unit. If it's something expensive, you can always resell it.
Transparency is EXACTLY what it is I am looking for here with the market. Why the hell should I waste 100m on a BS just to see who used the broker?
Why should people "hide" behind brokers? I understand its an isk sink for the economy, but there are other ways to achieve this. (HELLO! Increase Sales Tax)
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