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Vanlade
Amarr Blood Holocaust
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Posted - 2008.01.29 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Pham Nuuwen Forty Three and Paddington lied about the time we were supposed to fight. I have all the logs right here.
El Caido and I bickered about some minor point of rules before the tournament. He is being utterly favoritist in not allowing us our fight. He wouldn't even look at the proof that the other team set our match at a certain time, and then told him differently. If anything, Forty Three and Paddington ought to be the ones to be disqualified for lying and attempting to cheat their way past us. But we were still ready for the fight, right there, before they even went to their next match and still they wouldn't fight us.
Not only that, but by doing this, El Caido has proven beyond a doubt that he's not impartial, he's not fair, and this whole tournament is a sham. It's a damn shame... we entered this tournament in good faith, we trained, we spent time and effort for it, expecting decent treatment, and for something like this to happen, it absolutely damages the proceedings badly, if not irreparably.
Chat logs can be edited, so how can SAK know if Forty Three and Paddington lied, or if you are the lier? If you were in SAK shoes and had to choose which team to believe, would you assume that the time received by eve-mail is the correct one? This is the only correct decision to make.
So maybe your team lied, maybe your opponent lied, maybe something else created confusion. But in any case SAK took the right action and your bashing in this forums only serve to discredit you.
Moreover there is a simple way that this could have been avoided. _You_ should have sent the agreed time to SAK directly, instead of letting your _opponent_ team take care of things. The action of not sending SAK the time before hand only raise suspiscion against you. If your opponent sent a different time then you, SAK would know right away that something is wrong.
There are many aspects in a tournament and failing to send the agreed on to SAK and trusting the other team to do it is a call to create such a situation. Hopefully you will learn from this instead of blaming everyone and everything for your mistake.
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Vanlade
Amarr Blood Holocaust
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Posted - 2008.01.29 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: SheriffFruitfly
Hm. So I'm thinking there are 2 lessons to be learned:
1) Cc the refs on every communication with one's opponents, and 2) Inform your opponents that any communication from them that is NOT Cc'd to the refs will be ignored.
Does that sound about right?
1) Only important information such as schedule needs to be communicated, there's no need to overload the refs with meanless chit chat. 2) Optional but nice.
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Vanlade
Amarr Blood Holocaust
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:15:00 -
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Link to his website
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Vanlade
Amarr Blood Holocaust
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Pham Nuuwen So... what you're saying is, that your opponent's team can go ahead and tell the judge that the fight is at any time they want, when you're offline, and when you don't show up, that's that? How in the world does that make ANY sense at all?
We were there, in the system, ready to fight at the appointed time. They went ahead and fought their 'next' opponents anyway, after telling us they'd fight us still, cowards.
If you feel wronged, war dec them and take revenge. But don't try to ruin the tournament.
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Vanlade
Amarr Blood Holocaust
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Posted - 2008.01.30 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pham Nuuwen Remember that you can load faction ammo in your guns and it can't be scanned unless it's in your cargo, guys!
Your ego is preventing your from having a logical understanding of the situation. I despice you for "trying" to make this tournament harder to manage.
End yourselfÖ
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Vanlade
Amarr Blood Holocaust
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Posted - 2008.01.30 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: el caido Jahtar Deathbringer (Rupture) and SpaceCleaver (Thorax) defeat Eleana Tomelac (Thorax) and Angelinou (Thorax) in 1:10, in one of the quickest, most brutal of the tournament. DPS FTW.
Nice!
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Vanlade
Amarr Blood Holocaust
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Posted - 2008.02.05 14:52:00 -
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Excellent
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