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testtest123123	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:40:00 - [1] So why exactly did CCP so nerf the torps that you have to sacrifice part of your tank to get in range in time to kill something before your shields are totally gone along with your cap? PS: yes this kinda an alt, my main has MAXED missles skills.
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:42:00 - [2] troll much? 1/10 due to effort and overused topic. --------------------------------- Oh noes!
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:43:00 - [3] Because the Caldari battleships had a long range mid dps weapon system, and a looooong range low dps weapon system. Now in keeping with other races they have a close range very high DPS weapon system and a long range low dps weapon system.
testtest123123	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:44:00 - [4] Actually I can count on my hands the whole sum of post's I've made since 2005 when I started playing this game.
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:45:00 - [5] Originally by: testtest123123 Actually I can count on my hands the whole sum of post's I've made since 2005 when I started playing this game. Well if you tell your mum she might give you a cookie for the counting but the post is still poorly constructed, lacking new discussion content and worded like a troll. --------------------------------- Oh noes!
testtest123123	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:46:00 - [6] What ever dude, I don't give a rats. $%$%$ what you think about how my post is constructed. Sure you weren't trolling for a flame?
asdfasfasaxfsdgfhds	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:52:00 - [7] Caldari already had a short range high damage weapons system, thier called blasters or rails.
Wu Jiun	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:54:00 - [8] Originally by: testtest123123 So why exactly did CCP so nerf the torps that you have to sacrifice part of your tank to get in range in time to kill something before your shields are totally gone along with your cap? Mhh. Thats a hard one. Mhhhhh. Oh i have it: maybe because torps now do more damage from 0 to 45km than any other shortrange weapon system? Does that sound plausible?
Letava Gallente Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:54:00 - [9] Whine whine whine. Can I have 30km range for my Blasterthron? -----------------------
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:56:00 - [10] Originally by: testtest123123 What ever dude, I don't give a rats. $%$%$ what you think about how my post is constructed. Sure you weren't trolling for a flame? So you don't care how your post puts across a point of view? Why are you posting in a forum? --------------------------------- Oh noes!
Krell Vashari Caldari Krell Korp	Posted - 2008.01.26 00:56:00 - [11] Have you noticed however, that NPCs still have the old range but with now heavier damage? Originally by: MsMephistopheles If I could afford to come to fanfest I probably would buy you a beer just to throw it at you..
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:00:00 - [12] Cruise are perfectly adequate for mission-tarting. There is no mission a Cruise-fitted Raven cannot easily complete. It's actually faster for a lot of the BC/Cruiser heavy ones. So sorry your cookie-cutter torp raven needs a little adaptation, but on the bright side, the Raven is now a very viable PvP ship with very high DPS. And as a bonus Arby Seige are now silly cheap. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Ikasu Gallente The Durandal Organization	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:02:00 - [13] Originally by: Letava Whine whine whine. Can I have 30km range for my Blasterthron? /signed :3 for the lulz ------------------------------------------------- Attention Devs, for every isk you send me one member of your family will be returned safely.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:03:00 - [14] Originally by: testtest123123 So why exactly did CCP so nerf the torps that you have to sacrifice part of your tank to get in range in time to kill something before your shields are totally gone along with your cap? PS: yes this kinda an alt, my main has MAXED missles skills. Missions: Fit cruise. PVP: Warp to scout. /thread Originally by: Nice Guy This means that the writer epicaly fails at english. Irony. So delicious.
testtest123123	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:08:00 - [15] Quote: So you don't care how your post puts across a point of view? Why are you posting in a forum? No I don't care what people like you think, who feel the need to be smug and condesending behind a keyboard. Your little rating at the bottom of your reply, (1/10) really proves my point about you. I'm not sure how it makes a raven a viable PVP ship. Mind enlightening me on that? I've always used cruise for PVP becuase even before the nerf Torps were way to slow for anything other then a pos or station. You definatly don't want to be up in a mega's face firing torps while he's tearing you apart with blasters and drones. No question who's gonna win that fight.
Ursula LeGuinn Versus Gloria Omnis	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:11:00 - [16] Originally by: testtest123123 Stuff ________________
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:13:00 - [17] Originally by: testtest123123 I'm not sure how it makes a raven a viable PVP ship. Mind enlightening me on that? I've always used cruise for PVP becuase even before the nerf Torps were way to slow for anything other then a pos or station. You definatly don't want to be up in a mega's face firing torps while he's tearing you apart with blasters and drones. No question who's gonna win that fight. Heres a cookie cutter setup that tanks like a beast and pwns hard at close range. 6 Siege 2 med nuet 1 heavy cap injector 1 xl booster 3 hardners and 1 warp dis or drop the warp dis for 4 hardners with ample tackling support. 3 bcs II 1 dc II 1 pds 3 resist rigs 5 ecm med drones and 5 light war II Have fun. Originally by: Nice Guy This means that the writer epicaly fails at english. Irony. So delicious.
testtest123123	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:28:00 - [18] That set up would only work on the assumtion that some one gets close enough to you for them to be in range of torps. Now if the targets are out of range and the raven pilot wants to be more pro-active to get in range what must he do? Fit a mwd, if we wants to have a chance at getting the kill he must lock down his target. So in this situation his tank is now nerfed becuase he must fit, a warp scrambler, a cap injector, leaving 1 slot for a SB and 2 slots for harnders. That's hardly a tank. And caldari as we all know are all about the shield tank. The Raven is not a Gallante ship so unless CCP makes a shield tank mod that can fit in a low slot I just don't see it worth any while to even use Torps in PVP or missions for that matter.
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:30:00 - [19] Originally by: testtest123123 Quote: So you don't care how your post puts across a point of view? Why are you posting in a forum? No I don't care what people like you think, who feel the need to be smug and condesending behind a keyboard. Your little rating at the bottom of your reply, (1/10) really proves my point about you. I'm not sure how it makes a raven a viable PVP ship. Mind enlightening me on that? I've always used cruise for PVP becuase even before the nerf Torps were way to slow for anything other then a pos or station. You definatly don't want to be up in a mega's face firing torps while he's tearing you apart with blasters and drones. No question who's gonna win that fight. Ok here are a few points since you can't be bothered to read the other threads on this topic: 1. The raven is not a solo ship it still sucks at this. TBH who cares. 2. It has a better tank while fielding similar DPS of a damage of your choice, yes its going to tear that mega apart. 3. While fitting that tank its faster than the mega (plates slow it down) and so can outrange that mega (up to around 30km, beyond with tech II torps or with implants/rigs. --------------------------------- Oh noes!
Gamesguy Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:35:00 - [20] Originally by: testtest123123 Quote: So you don't care how your post puts across a point of view? Why are you posting in a forum? No I don't care what people like you think, who feel the need to be smug and condesending behind a keyboard. Your little rating at the bottom of your reply, (1/10) really proves my point about you. I'm not sure how it makes a raven a viable PVP ship. Mind enlightening me on that? I've always used cruise for PVP becuase even before the nerf Torps were way to slow for anything other then a pos or station. You definatly don't want to be up in a mega's face firing torps while he's tearing you apart with blasters and drones. No question who's gonna win that fight. The new torp raven will beat a blasterthron 1v1 if the fight starts at 15-20km. And yes the torp raven needs a mwd, and XL boost on a raven=fail.
testtest123123	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:38:00 - [21] I haven't met a mega pilot that doesn't use a mwd coupled with a webber.
THEGREAT LOBO Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:39:00 - [22] Edited by: THEGREAT LOBO on 26/01/2008 01:39:48 Originally by: testtest123123 So why exactly did CCP so nerf the torps that you have to sacrifice part of your tank to get in range in time to kill something before your shields are totally gone along with your cap? PS: yes this kinda an alt, my main has MAXED missles skills. Its not a torp nerf.. Boost is the word your looking for
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:40:00 - [23] Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 26/01/2008 01:39:53 While we're at it...I should be able to solo pop NanoHACs with my Citadel Torps!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Sythyss	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:40:00 - [24] Edited by: Sythyss on 26/01/2008 01:41:34 meh...mission runners think it's a nerf...a lot of the pvp'ers think it's a buff. It's just a change. deal with it and stop whining on the forums, esp. if you're too embarrased to post with your main
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:42:00 - [25] Heh... Try Blasters - you'll even cry more when someone's at 4km from your ship and is still out of range.
Marine HK4861 Caldari Radical Technologies	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:43:00 - [26] Originally by: testtest123123 The Raven is not a Gallante ship so unless CCP makes a shield tank mod that can fit in a low slot Power Diagnostic Systems? Shield Power Relays? Capacitor Power Relays for active shield tanks? Or you could think outside the box a little and armour tank your raven with Ewar in your midslots.
testtest123123	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:46:00 - [27] I'm perhaps kinda whinning but not wholeheartedly whinning. It doesn't really matter which car I post with, the topic is not about me anyways.
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:52:00 - [28] How can the mega catch you if you are faster? --------------------------------- Oh noes!
testtest123123	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:54:00 - [29] Edited by: testtest123123 on 26/01/2008 01:57:13 Quote: What does that have to do with anything? You still win. Raven has similar amounts of hp and slightly less dps, but it can start doing the dps from further away. You can't keep a mega at range without sacrificing your shield tank. So yeah you might get off some dmg before the mega is in range but once it's in it's range from mwd'n towards you, your webbed and he's wrecking you. He'll catch up damage wise because the raven is webbed and it's tank is nerfed. Quote: How can the mega catch you if you are faster? What's the mass of a raven vs a megathron? how much more does a plate add to the mega?
Psychic Sue Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:57:00 - [30] Originally by: testtest123123 Yes Sue that is obvious, but were not talking about a cruise fitted Raven. then I don't really see why you named this thread with a big "NERF" in the title when it is indeed so obvious. An adjustment to fit the other races. Period. For missions all the arguments are mute anyway, you know what you'll face, you fit accordingly, if there's long range orbitting ships, it is cruises, else, you go the high dps route. I wish it was this simple in pvp, "hey guys ... today's the sniping day, tomorrow you may come with your blaster megas."

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