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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2012.02.12 16:20:00 -
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Time to end the War on Salt
Discuss!
Kkthanx!
Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |

Benderama
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
0
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:38:00 -
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I have read that it scratches the interiors of your arteries. This ruffened surface enables fat deposits to build up more easily, creating clogged arteries. I don't know why it can't be used to scratch away the fat deposits as well... |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:58:00 -
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It makes you bloated and look unsexy. That's enough of a reason to keep it's use to a minimum. |

Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:20:00 -
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It helps to preserve meat and other food stuffs so that we have something to eat during cold seasons (for those of us who do not live in paradise called Panama). So of course the Greens want it gone, that way people starve to death and population problem is solved, Earth is saved! Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat desert first! |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:51:00 -
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As always, it's the dose that makes it bad ... Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Sasha Khaine
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:33:00 -
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Because Angelina Jolie was the star.. nah only kidding!
I love Angie >:D
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Welcome to EVE"The entire British empire was founded on cups of tea... and if you think I'm going to war without one, mate. You're sadly mistaken" |

baltec1
589
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Posted - 2012.02.12 21:01:00 -
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Drink lots of salt water and see what happens! |

SpaceSquirrels
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Posted - 2012.02.12 21:36:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:As always, it's the dose that makes it bad ...
Common sense anit so common.
You'd think the "everything in moderation." Saying would get through to more people, but well... See the first part. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2012.02.12 21:57:00 -
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Salt is what makes your nerves work, too much salt somehow makes you fat or something. I forgot the reason, but I think the amount you should have is about 500mg a day or something.
Fun fact: McDonalds big mac contains 1050mg of sodium  |

baltec1
589
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Posted - 2012.02.12 22:16:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Salt is what makes your nerves work, too much salt somehow makes you fat or something. I forgot the reason, but I think the amount you should have is about 500mg a day or something. Fun fact: McDonalds big mac contains 1050mg of sodium 
There is a reason why those things stay fresh for months |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1230
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Posted - 2012.02.12 22:59:00 -
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People get their salt mixed up.
That white stuff of the table, used almost everywhere, that's sodium chloride. Processed white table salt. It's bad for you, just as processed white sugar and bleached flour. The term "white death" is used for any of these food items.
Sea Salt is good for you, having other elements in it. There is salt actually from the sea, or you can get salt that is mined from the mountains. There is "mormon salt" from the mines in Utah which is actually read in color, or you can get a comparable kind of mined mineral salt that tends to (based on the packaging I see) comes from Pakistan.
Funny thing is, if you have horses, you can buy salt licks for them, which are really large rocks of this mined salt. It's healthier for them and they can consume as much as they want. You can grind the same salt and use it yourself.
I use salt and sugar all of the time, but Sea Salt and natural cane sugar, and wear the same sized clothes I wore in high school (and being a slob, still have the same clothes too) and I am over 40. Salt is not bad for you, only refined sodium chloride is.
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VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
308
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Posted - 2012.02.12 23:04:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Salt is not bad for you, only refined sodium chloride is.
I don't follow... All salt, including all of your examples, is sodium chloride... Is it the Iodine you don't like? |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
956
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Posted - 2012.02.12 23:57:00 -
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Fun thing I learned in chemistry... sodium is toxic as is chlorine. But when the 2 ions from those elements bond and form sodium chloride it's not toxic anymore 
Also water makes sodium kersplode |

VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
308
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:25:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Also water makes sodium kersplode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFG4Yr7lQzw |

Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
597
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Posted - 2012.02.13 01:29:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Salt is what makes your nerves work, too much salt somehow makes you fat or something. I forgot the reason, but I think the amount you should have is about 500mg a day or something. Fun fact: McDonalds big mac contains 1050mg of sodium 
Salt/sodium is an electrolyte, which can cause health problems if they're out-of-balance. Some salt is good (and, for the record, a certain amount is required for the proper operation of some of our bodies' systems), but too little or too much can cause circulatory collapse.
That's why McDonalds has been attempting to lower the sodium content of its fries and hamburgers; both to change their unhealthy image, and promote proper eating habits. ((Please note:-áAt times, my characters-ámay be a-holes, but-áI am most certainly not.-áWhat they say IC has no bearing on my OOC opinions or behaviors, and I apologize in advance if you are offended OOC by anything I might say or do-áIC.)) |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
956
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Posted - 2012.02.13 01:38:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Salt is what makes your nerves work, too much salt somehow makes you fat or something. I forgot the reason, but I think the amount you should have is about 500mg a day or something. Fun fact: McDonalds big mac contains 1050mg of sodium  Salt/sodium is an electrolyte, which can cause health problems if they're out-of-balance. Some salt is good (and, for the record, a certain amount is required for the proper operation of some of our bodies' systems), but too little or too much can cause circulatory collapse. That's why McDonalds has been attempting to lower the sodium content of its fries and hamburgers; both to change their unhealthy image, and promote proper eating habits.
McDonalds fries kick ass though  |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
225
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Posted - 2012.02.13 02:11:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:That's why McDonalds has been attempting to lower the sodium content of its fries and hamburgers; both to change their unhealthy image, and promote proper eating habits.
It took long enough for McDonald's to realise that killing your customers is a bad idea because dead customers cannot buy burgers. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
956
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Posted - 2012.02.13 02:37:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:Astrid Stjerna wrote:That's why McDonalds has been attempting to lower the sodium content of its fries and hamburgers; both to change their unhealthy image, and promote proper eating habits. It took long enough for McDonald's to realise that killing your customers is a bad idea because dead customers cannot buy burgers.
Through the wonders of credit card fraud they can though 
Also hasn't slowed down Marlboro |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
398
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Posted - 2012.02.13 05:48:00 -
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salt, cholesterol and high fat foods have never been proven to be unhealthy in any way. in every study ever done if you read past any bias the results are salt doesn't harm you in reasonable amounts. cholesterol is only bad if small, dense LDL caused by sugar Unsaturated AND Saturated fats do no harm to the body. |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
225
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Posted - 2012.02.13 06:05:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:salt, cholesterol and high fat foods have never been proven to be unhealthy in any way. in every study ever done if you read past any bias the results are salt doesn't harm you in reasonable amounts. cholesterol is only bad if small, dense LDL caused by sugar Unsaturated AND Saturated fats do no harm to the body.
Pretty much this, everything is fine in moderation and as long as your diet is varied and has enough fruit and veg in it. Staying active is necessary to, you do not need to be a gym fanatic just a generally active lifestyle and avoid being completely sedentary.
Eating nothing but a high fat, high protein diet with lots of empty carbs and sitting in front of TV/computer all your spare time causes the health problems. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
957
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Posted - 2012.02.13 06:30:00 -
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I usually traverse about 5 miles a day on foot, also every day I get a taco bell volcano burrito (used to be a big mac but McDonalds is rebuilding the closest one and I don't want to walk in the other direction. |

Renturu
Tribal Spirit The Nest Alliance
148
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Posted - 2012.02.13 09:16:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Astrid Stjerna wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Salt is what makes your nerves work, too much salt somehow makes you fat or something. I forgot the reason, but I think the amount you should have is about 500mg a day or something. Fun fact: McDonalds big mac contains 1050mg of sodium  Salt/sodium is an electrolyte, which can cause health problems if they're out-of-balance. Some salt is good (and, for the record, a certain amount is required for the proper operation of some of our bodies' systems), but too little or too much can cause circulatory collapse. That's why McDonalds has been attempting to lower the sodium content of its fries and hamburgers; both to change their unhealthy image, and promote proper eating habits. McDonalds fries kick ass though 
Hell to the YES!!! If EvE WiS is Space Barbie, then I'm built like a Ken Doll:
Nothin' but 14 inches of T'aint; Smooth, from front to butt!!! |

VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
308
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Posted - 2012.02.13 09:38:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I usually traverse about 5 miles a day on foot, also every day I get a taco bell volcano burrito (used to be a big mac but McDonalds is rebuilding the closest one and I don't want to walk in the other direction.
If there were a Long John Silvers within 2.5 miles my ass would be on this diet/exercise program in a big fast heart beat. *Charges Twilight fans with Ka-bar* -- Surfin's PlunderBunny LIIIIIIIIIIINNEEEEE PIIIEEEECCCCEEE!!!!!!! --Taedrin Using relativity to irrational numbers is smart --rodyas I no longer believe we landed on the moon. --Atticus Fynch
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Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
21
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Posted - 2012.02.13 09:48:00 -
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Salt is absolutely vital for all cooking: after a Bandit-killing-spree I always search every Barrel to find those Salt Piles. |

VKhaun Vex
Viziam Amarr Empire
308
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Posted - 2012.02.13 11:16:00 -
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Florio wrote:Salt is absolutely vital for all cooking: after a Bandit-killing-spree I always search every Barrel to find those Salt Piles.
Refined Salt Piles (aka 'WHITE DEATH') are terrible for you. You need natural Fire Salts and Void Salts to keep you healthy.  *Charges Twilight fans with Ka-bar* -- Surfin's PlunderBunny LIIIIIIIIIIINNEEEEE PIIIEEEECCCCEEE!!!!!!! --Taedrin Using relativity to irrational numbers is smart --rodyas I no longer believe we landed on the moon. --Atticus Fynch
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baltec1
589
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Posted - 2012.02.13 11:54:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:salt, cholesterol and high fat foods have never been proven to be unhealthy in any way. in every study ever done if you read past any bias the results are salt doesn't harm you in reasonable amounts. cholesterol is only bad if small, dense LDL caused by sugar Unsaturated AND Saturated fats do no harm to the body.
It's all is harmfull when abused. Unfortunatly the level of crap you find in food these days means people are now putting on more fat than seals. You know when you see an arctic seal and a person sunbathing and the person is fatter that something is horribly wrong with the world. |

Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:00:00 -
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If fat people exercised once in awhile instead of just eat all the time then they wouldn't need to worry about what they eat too much, as long as you do enough exercise within, I don't know, a month? Even casually? You wouldn't have this problem. That said people don't notice but avoiding eating fruit and veg causes it's own problems like constipation which I'd argue is even worse than being overweight because of the amount of pain it causes.
It's people just doing nothing but sitting at their computers or on their couches all day doing nothing but eating that are the real issue here, not salt or what fat content is in your food. Even someone like me who does spend a lot of time on the computer manages at least 3 hours of exercise each week.
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

baltec1
592
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:34:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:If fat people exercised once in awhile instead of just eat all the time then they wouldn't need to worry about what they eat too much, as long as you do enough exercise within, I don't know, a month? Even casually? You wouldn't have this problem. That said people don't notice but avoiding eating fruit and veg causes it's own problems like constipation which I'd argue is even worse than being overweight because of the amount of pain it causes.
It's people just doing nothing but sitting at their computers or on their couches all day doing nothing but eating that are the real issue here, not salt or what fat content is in your food. Even someone like me who does spend a lot of time on the computer manages at least 3 hours of exercise each week.
When a burger contains 50% of your daily salt needs and twice the fat it doesnt take long to outgrow your pants and if a meal requires massive amounts of salt to make it tasty then you have to wonder just how **** it really is. |

Valei Khurelem
303
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:43:00 -
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Quote: When a burger contains 50% of your daily salt needs and twice the fat it doesnt take long to outgrow your pants and if a meal requires massive amounts of salt to make it tasty then you have to wonder just how **** it really is.
I cook my own food, so sorry, I don't really get where you're coming from :P
"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium |

baltec1
595
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:10:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:Quote: When a burger contains 50% of your daily salt needs and twice the fat it doesnt take long to outgrow your pants and if a meal requires massive amounts of salt to make it tasty then you have to wonder just how **** it really is.
I cook my own food, so sorry, I don't really get where you're coming from :P
So do I, tastes so much better.
Burgerking brought out some crazy burger they have in the US. The thing was loaded with so much fat and salt the doctors council gave it a health warning. BK soon stopped doing it to stop all the bad press about it
all the big fast food chains serve utter crap, even the McSalad or whatever its called has lots of salt and fat in it |

Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
106
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Posted - 2012.02.13 17:45:00 -
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Salt causes cars to rust. BAN THAT ****, get some Hakkapeliitta tires and problem solved.
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Your stuff goes here. |

Brisco County
The Shadow Plague BLACK-MARK
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 19:32:00 -
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It doesn't help that the meat we eat here in the US is pretty much just fat disguised as meat. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
959
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Posted - 2012.02.14 00:17:00 -
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Selinate
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Posted - 2012.02.14 01:49:00 -
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I'm still more concerned about the extremely high fat and carbohydrate content of all western foods these days than the salt content. Fun fact, a lot of real Asian food has a decent amount of salt in it, and it's still MUCH better for you than any western food.
Another fun fact: The vast vast majority of all Asian food in the west has been westernized to include the fat, carbs, etc. just so they can get American customers also. If you go to China or Japan and order some of the foods you might find in an "authentic" Chinese or Japanese restaurant in the west, it's MUCH more bland, has a lot more vegetables typically, and has the wonderful side effect of being sooooo much cheaper (at least in China). |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
960
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:06:00 -
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Selinate wrote:I'm still more concerned about the extremely high fat and carbohydrate content of all western foods these days than the salt content. Fun fact, a lot of real Asian food has a decent amount of salt in it, and it's still MUCH better for you than any western food.
Another fun fact: The vast vast majority of all Asian food in the west has been westernized to include the fat, carbs, etc. just so they can get American customers also. If you go to China or Japan and order some of the foods you might find in an "authentic" Chinese or Japanese restaurant in the west, it's MUCH more bland, has a lot more vegetables typically, and has the wonderful side effect of being sooooo much cheaper (at least in China).
I spent a couple weeks in Shanghai... didn't see a single fat person.
Except me at 5'11" and a beefy 150 lbs. |

Selinate
650
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:19:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Selinate wrote:I'm still more concerned about the extremely high fat and carbohydrate content of all western foods these days than the salt content. Fun fact, a lot of real Asian food has a decent amount of salt in it, and it's still MUCH better for you than any western food.
Another fun fact: The vast vast majority of all Asian food in the west has been westernized to include the fat, carbs, etc. just so they can get American customers also. If you go to China or Japan and order some of the foods you might find in an "authentic" Chinese or Japanese restaurant in the west, it's MUCH more bland, has a lot more vegetables typically, and has the wonderful side effect of being sooooo much cheaper (at least in China). I spent a couple weeks in Shanghai... didn't see a single fat person. Except me at 5'11" and a beefy 150 lbs.
Yeah, in part because you can go out to eat in Shanghai (or Qingdao, where I spent a few weeks), and get actual food, i.e. stuff that is edible, rather than a pile of grease on a plate covered in sugar and filled with preservatives.
Doing that is HARD in the west. Over there you can go just about anywhere and get healthy food. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
960
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:25:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Selinate wrote:I'm still more concerned about the extremely high fat and carbohydrate content of all western foods these days than the salt content. Fun fact, a lot of real Asian food has a decent amount of salt in it, and it's still MUCH better for you than any western food.
Another fun fact: The vast vast majority of all Asian food in the west has been westernized to include the fat, carbs, etc. just so they can get American customers also. If you go to China or Japan and order some of the foods you might find in an "authentic" Chinese or Japanese restaurant in the west, it's MUCH more bland, has a lot more vegetables typically, and has the wonderful side effect of being sooooo much cheaper (at least in China). I spent a couple weeks in Shanghai... didn't see a single fat person. Except me at 5'11" and a beefy 150 lbs. Yeah, in part because you can go out to eat in Shanghai (or Qingdao, where I spent a few weeks), and get actual food, i.e. stuff that is edible, rather than a pile of grease on a plate covered in sugar and filled with preservatives. Doing that is HARD in the west. Over there you can go just about anywhere and get healthy food.
I had McDonalds when I got back, promptly threw up violently. Real Chinese food made me weak 
In hindsight I couldn't identify most of what I had there... I think there were noodles in some things but they felt and tasted... different....
Also I had pigeon  |

Selinate
650
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:32:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I had McDonalds when I got back, promptly threw up violently. Real Chinese food made me weak  In hindsight I couldn't identify most of what I had there... I think there were noodles in some things but they felt and tasted... different.... Also I had pigeon 
You just got used to eating natural food instead of pink goo and other preservatives. 
I ate all sorts of weird things also. Duck feet, Chicken feet, Duck gizzards, meat gelatin (I would not recommend this, nasty), cooked blood (somehow cooked, I didn't ask), and even things that don't even have an english name.
The most impressive thing I remember though is with EVERY meal, they would have HUGE bowls filled with vegetables that were cooked fairly plainly, but still very good. I thought it was also funny how the people would fuss at me for eating too much meat and starch. I started eating like they did and my body thanked me for it (my digestive system operated normal for once, apart from learning how to use the holes in the ground they have for toilets in most public locations). |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
960
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:19:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I had McDonalds when I got back, promptly threw up violently. Real Chinese food made me weak  In hindsight I couldn't identify most of what I had there... I think there were noodles in some things but they felt and tasted... different.... Also I had pigeon  You just got used to eating natural food instead of pink goo and other preservatives.  I ate all sorts of weird things also. Duck feet, Chicken feet, Duck gizzards, meat gelatin (I would not recommend this, nasty), cooked blood (somehow cooked, I didn't ask), and even things that don't even have an english name. The most impressive thing I remember though is with EVERY meal, they would have HUGE bowls filled with vegetables that were cooked fairly plainly, but still very good. I thought it was also funny how the people would fuss at me for eating too much meat and starch. I started eating like they did and my body thanked me for it (my digestive system operated normal for once, apart from learning how to use the holes in the ground they have for toilets in most public locations).
And the kids run away from the scary white people... I was the Chinese Godzirra  |

Syme
Umbra Scientia Muneris Shadow Directive
4
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:30:00 -
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Ok simple version: Sodium replaces Potassium which is needed for healthy kidney function, which in turn effects blood pressure. (This isn't scientific fact only my assumption from reading way too much about this subject)
Answer: eat lots of bananas and you can probably eat as much salt as you want.
Epidemiwhateveritscalled shows that only specific sets of hypertensives over 40 really suffer from excess salt consumption (not that the salt police read it that way). One amusing study in Scotland showed that heavy whisky drinkers over 50 benefited from increased salt intake |

Sturmwolke
135
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Posted - 2012.02.18 06:07:00 -
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I had HIGH BP issues several few years back, plenty of factors - poor diet, obese ... as for salt, yes I watched my intake, believing into mainstream theory about it.
Fast forward to today (actually about 1-2 years back), my BP issues disappeared (falling to within the normal range) and my weight is normal (6'2"/75kg). So what changed? My diet. I eliminated 99% modern processed food and sugars and stuck to fresh/whole foods.
Back to salt, I couldn't care less. I heaped at least a tablespoon of sea salt a day. As far as my body's telling me, the mainstream belief that salt contributes to hypertension is a total quackjob.
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Cierejai
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.02.19 09:12:00 -
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Salt causes high blood pressure and can lead to heart disease, but unless you are actively eating salt then you are unlikely to have any problems unless you already have an underlying condition or just eat terribly.
The belief that sea salt is "better" for you then regular salt is false, it tastes better for some but the health consequences are the same.
People are now acting against high salt intake because the majority of people are simply unaware of how much they are taking in. They already consume too much from the processed foods they eat, and generally will add more table salt to their food as well.
Don't forget that the people that are fat tend to have poor eating habits, so their obesity combined with high salt intake just compounds their problems. |
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