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Mr Floydy
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:08:00 -
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Legion's are awesome for wormholes, same with Proteus. They can both fit for high resists and large buffer to be kept alive by logistics and can be very useful to a fleet. Proteus just by putting out immense dps for its mass, and the Legion has 2 nice options for it too:
HAM + bonused neuts - pulls out decent dps with choice of damage type, great passive resist profile and pretty fast and mobile for an armour tanker. Alternatively fit with the tactical targetting sub and lasers and melt frigates ;)
For what the OP wants though, I'd run with something cheaper due to the joyful blob nature of lowsec half the time :p |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:13:00 -
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Jas Dor wrote:Did CCP remove the SP loss when you loose a T3? I can think of better things to PvP in than a ship that is going to lobotimize you if you get ganked.
The WORST outcome is only losing one of the Level 5's which is only a 3 1/2 day train. So the f*** what ? You think THAT's painful or something ?? Sheesh............
If it were a Rank 8 Level 5 and a MONTH to train that would be another story, but I mean really...........................
Honestly CCP should up the Rank of all 5 Subsystem skills to at least an 8 - 12 day Level 5. Would cut down at least a bit on the abusive useless uses to which these ships are forced to perform by idiots.
These ships are WAY too easy to get into for what they are.
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ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:36:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
The WORST outcome is only losing one of the Level 5's which is only a 3 1/2 day train. So the f*** what ? You think THAT's painful or something ?? Sheesh............
If it were a Rank 8 Level 5 and a MONTH to train that would be another story, but I mean really...........................
Honestly CCP should up the Rank of all 5 Subsystem skills to at least an 8 - 12 day Level 5. Would cut down at least a bit on the abusive useless uses to which these ships are forced to perform by idiots.
These ships are WAY too easy to get into for what they are.
But then what would happen to the market of selling 4mil SP toons for 3x their value due to the fact they have the basic tengu skills? :OOO
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.14 00:48:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:For whatever you do a T3 cruiser is always worth the investment.
Which T3 cruiser you invest in is largely based on what you hope to do with it as there are so many ways to use each one.
Not true. For most roles, they are ISK inefficient. In a few, they are optimal.
A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |
Selinate
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Posted - 2012.02.14 02:08:00 -
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Legion is pretty good with a very specific set of subsystems.
Outside of those subsystems it's ****. |
SpaceSquirrels
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Posted - 2012.02.14 03:54:00 -
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No they spread lies... Just jump in a carrier and dread alt pair....and one ceptor. |
Nex apparatu5
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.14 03:59:00 -
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Paragon Renegade wrote:Ohai
Being disgustingly rich and having nothing else to work towards, would you recommend getting a Loki for PvP? Possibly a Tengu as well, but I was leaning towards a Loki.
Is it any good? Worth it over BS'? etc
I love the allure of getting the most advanced things in the game, barring Titans and supercapital ships
You're clearly not disgustingly rich. I buy ships I can't even fly for fun, and I wouldn't consider myself disgustingly rich.
If you were disgustingly rich, you post would read I bought 3 faction-fitted lokis, can I pvp in them? |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.02.14 04:25:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Paragon Renegade wrote:What about the Legion and Proteus? I never see them, and they're never mentioned anywhere I have no idea. But after asking in New Player Help about T3 cruisers and the like I ended up with one Legion in my asset list with subsystems that I have no intention to use and that I cannot and will not fly. I'm willing to sell it cheaply if anyone is after one of those  Legion is nice as an expensive, big Zealot - use it as anything else and it disappoints. especially the cap bonus on the covert subsystem (as opposed to a damage bonus) is a huge problem for the legion.
Yes, there was a contract in Jita for a very low price for a fitted Legion. Being a total ignoramus around T3 cruisers, I checked the price of the sub-systems and the hull; which was a good 500m ISK above the price on the contract. I asked in New Player Help if you could remove the sub-systems and re-use them; the answer was yes. (Presumably you can with skills? I don't know)
But I purchased it with the intent to break it down into components and sell it. Needless to say, I couldn't and had put half that trade accounts' net worth into the purchase. Said fuckit, dropped it back in a contract for a couple of hundred million ISK more and logged in 10 minutes ago to find it sold after almost 10 days.
Le-phew. |
Selinate
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:24:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Paragon Renegade wrote:What about the Legion and Proteus? I never see them, and they're never mentioned anywhere I have no idea. But after asking in New Player Help about T3 cruisers and the like I ended up with one Legion in my asset list with subsystems that I have no intention to use and that I cannot and will not fly. I'm willing to sell it cheaply if anyone is after one of those Legion is nice as an expensive, big Zealot - use it as anything else and it disappoints. especially the cap bonus on the covert subsystem (as opposed to a damage bonus) is a huge problem for the legion. Yes, there was a contract in Jita for a very low price for a fitted Legion. Being a total ignoramus around T3 cruisers, I checked the price of the sub-systems and the hull; which was a good 500m ISK above the price on the contract. I asked in New Player Help if you could remove the sub-systems and re-use them; the answer was yes. (Presumably you can with skills? I don't know) But I purchased it with the intent to break it down into components and sell it. Needless to say, I couldn't and had put half that trade accounts' net worth into the purchase. Said fuckit, dropped it back in a contract for a couple of hundred million ISK more and logged in 10 minutes ago to find it sold after almost 10 days. Le-phew.
It was probably because you got a legion with the **** subsystems fit like I was talking about earlier. The legion is only really good with a certain set of them. Outside of that set of subsystems, demand is next to nil since they're really not good at all... |
Ai Shun
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Posted - 2012.02.14 08:26:00 -
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Selinate wrote:It was probably because you got a legion with the **** subsystems fit like I was talking about earlier. The legion is only really good with a certain set of them. Outside of that set of subsystems, demand is next to nil since they're really not good at all...
I'm guessing it wasn't all too bad as I made a 200m ISK profit off it (Less the taxes). Of course, I was hoping for a 700m one; but still! |
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Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions
Bloodbound.
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Posted - 2012.02.14 11:26:00 -
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Being able to almost insta-lock people with a proteus sounds nice. |
knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.02.14 13:29:00 -
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I'd start with a Rifter. Buying a t3 and then going to look for pvp with no experience means you're just a really nice kill mail for the first person to find and tackle you. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:01:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:I'd start with a Rifter. Buying a t3 and then going to look for pvp with no experience means you're just a really nice kill mail for the first person to find and tackle you.
Agreed.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:26:00 -
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100MN Afterburner Tengu.
That is all.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
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