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None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:13:00 -
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Thought it might be interesting to start a chat channel in game.
I am currently sitting in Jita 4-4 with a new chat channel created "CSM7 Townhall" perhaps we can get other candidates to join in as a rolling realtime Q&A and debate?
Anyways, always up for experimenting... join me won't you?
(Probably won't be watching Jita local as it makes my eyes bleed.)
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Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:20:00 -
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Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint?
And not hoping to be obstructive, but I'm assuming "you" have moderator control to the channel rather than it being a "neutrally" mediated platform? |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:26:00 -
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Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint?
Yes absolutely. It may seem nonsensical but my candidacy is even conditional on other's points of view. See my announcement thread for more details (in my sig).
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote: And not hoping to be obstructive, but I'm assuming "you" have moderator control to the channel rather than it being a "neutrally" mediated platform?
I made the channel on a lark, feel free to make your own if you feel more qualified. Your point is valid. I would be happy to see a more official moderated place to discuss.
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Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:28:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint? Yes absolutely. It may seem nonsensical but my candidacy is even conditional on other's points of view. See my announcement thread for more details (in my sig). Shazzam Vokanavom wrote: And not hoping to be obstructive, but I'm assuming "you" have moderator control to the channel rather than it being a "neutrally" mediated platform?
I made the channel on a lark, feel free to make your own if you feel more qualified. Your point is valid. I would be happy to see a more official moderated place to discuss.
I'd suggest and encourage asking CCP to open a public channel for such purposes.
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None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:31:00 -
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Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
I'd suggest and encourage asking CCP to open a public channel for such purposes.
Hey CCP! Can we have an open public channel for this purpose?
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Tiger Would
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:49:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:
I'd suggest and encourage asking CCP to open a public channel for such purposes.
Hey CCP! Can we have an open public channel for this purpose?
It is a great idea to have,for example a stickied Townhall here in Jita park for example.
CCP? Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:51:00 -
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i volunteer to moderate this valuable npc forum alt discussion |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2012.02.13 00:55:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:i volunteer to moderate this valuable npc forum alt discussion
  
You'd end up with carpal tunnel syndrome Nicolo, and for all the wrong reasons. You seem to be one of the most predjudicial individuals against freedoms of expression I certainly know about. |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.13 02:13:00 -
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Actually had a good chat with Nicolo about various topics, death to NPC Corps, War Dec reforms, Low Sec politics and Drone Poo.
Even got called "my friend", although unsure of the sincerity and/or sarcasm quotient there.
All in all a lively debate and discussion.
Thanks for coming by to "moderate", Nocolo!
Will be here for a while longer tonight, if folk want to drop in: "CSM7 Townhall"
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None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.13 05:36:00 -
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Want to thank Mike Azariah for dropping by for a Nicolo "moderated" discussion.
Mike's Candidacy thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68323&find=unread
Topics included high sec wardecs, the economics of ganking, more drone poo, Jack Dant's very popular losec proposals, Mike's next blog on CSM dreamteams, and various colorful personalities in EVE.
On the eupraxsophy of EVE:
Mike Azariah: Let me answer that question with a question, is there only one way to play EVE?
None ofthe Above: Only if EVE has only one player.
(To which Mike's response was probably not even then, which I can't say I disagree with.)
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None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.13 06:05:00 -
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Have been joined by Elise Randolph current CSM, and Andski, current Goon.
Interesting discussions as one might expect.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2044
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Posted - 2012.02.13 08:14:00 -
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I sure learned a lot about wormholes, heh~ yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9642
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Posted - 2012.02.13 11:47:00 -
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Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint? Call me a cynic, but I'd say the reason a candidate named "None ofthe Above" creating such a channel and encouraging such a discourse would be to demonstrate to onlookers the inefficacy of the various candidates. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
132
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:01:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint? Call me a cynic, but I'd say the reason a candidate named "None ofthe Above" creating such a channel and encouraging such a discourse would be to demonstrate to onlookers the inefficacy of the various candidates.
Whereas my second question you convieniently edited out from the post gave no "hint" to that? 
Quote:Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint?
And not hoping to be obstructive, but I'm assuming "you" have moderator control to the channel rather than it being a "neutrally" mediated platform?
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9642
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:04:00 -
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Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint? Call me a cynic, but I'd say the reason a candidate named "None ofthe Above" creating such a channel and encouraging such a discourse would be to demonstrate to onlookers the inefficacy of the various candidates. Whereas my second question you convieniently edited out from the post gave no "hint" to that?  I don't really get what you're saying.
Are you suggesting that by not quoting the entirety of a post when I'm only responding to part of it that I am somehow taking it out of context or being disingenuous?
Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
132
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:12:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint? Call me a cynic, but I'd say the reason a candidate named "None ofthe Above" creating such a channel and encouraging such a discourse would be to demonstrate to onlookers the inefficacy of the various candidates. Whereas my second question you convieniently edited out from the post gave no "hint" to that?  I don't really get what you're saying. Are you suggesting that by not quoting the entirety of a post when I'm only responding to part of it that I am somehow taking it out of context or being disingenuous?
Yes |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9642
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:14:00 -
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Then perhaps you'd kindly practice what you preach and stop quoting snippets of my prior post history?  Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
132
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:23:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Then perhaps you'd kindly practice what you preach and stop quoting snippets of my prior post history? 
Actually no. The snippets I quoted support a direct link to stances you have claimed. And are sufficiently objective to infer a point. Whereas your omission here of my point and using it as a basis to prove my naivity or absence of awareness is very relevant to the argument.
However, its completely irrelevant as you have already recognised in your own posts that the comments I have made are irrefutable and that you could not argue against them? So what have you acheived in your brash attempt at repair here? Other than you are capable of an extra level of denial? |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9643
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:49:00 -
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You really do see every single interaction with me as a battlefield, don't you? I mean, seriously. Wow. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |

Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
132
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:58:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:You really do see every single interaction with me as a battlefield, don't you? I mean, seriously. Wow.
Is this projection asking for a "ceasefire" on your childish stupidity?
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:15:00 -
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I like the idea of townhall-style discussions, especially in public channels that all players (new and old) can access. I'm already staring my own threads here that cover specific topic (see topics labeled ***CSM Interstellar Debate - insert topic here***) so that candidates can have a platform to discuss specific issues in more detail without having the clutter of a chat channel.
But I do encourage people like None ofthe Above to start in-game channels and spreading the word of such channels to new players so that more people can engage with their CSM candidates. Thank you for taking the initiative, None ofthe Above. ***CSM Interstellar Debate - Mining Profession*** ***CSM Interstellar Debate - Combat PvP*** |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:36:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint? Call me a cynic, but I'd say the reason a candidate named "None ofthe Above" creating such a channel and encouraging such a discourse would be to demonstrate to onlookers the inefficacy of the various candidates.
Cynic
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namron 7
1-800-FUBAR
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:18:00 -
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Bumping Thanks for the help |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.14 04:51:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Forgive me for being curious, but is the "None of the Above" candidate now advocating that there is now value in hearing an alternative viewpoint? Call me a cynic, but I'd say the reason a candidate named "None ofthe Above" creating such a channel and encouraging such a discourse would be to demonstrate to onlookers the inefficacy of the various candidates. Cynic
Actually furthering communication and getting a better CSM is my primary goal. Getting myself elected is a distant second (if that). Besmirching good candidates is not my intent, in spite my name.
Back in game on the "CSM7 Townhall" Channel here with Mike Azeriah and frequent poster Rodyas.
Come and talk CSM and the future of EVE, if that kind of thing interests you.
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:00:00 -
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Whatever you do, don't invite Mitt. He takes all day to say nothing. (He'll wear his magic underwear!)
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Miso Souped
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:18:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Whatever you do, don't invite Mitt. He takes all day to say nothing. (He'll wear his magic underwear!)
I see what you did there. |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:56:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Whatever you do, don't invite Mitt. He takes all day to say nothing. (He'll wear his magic underwear!)
Mitt and his jesus jammies are quite welcome.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.02.14 08:01:00 -
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Everyone should feel comfortable in the town hall. Dress however is necessary to achieve that. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |

None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.17 04:20:00 -
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Back in the "CSM7 Townhall", inviting all to come discuss what concerns them or brings them hope.
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None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.24 08:19:00 -
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Good discussions this night with:
Hans Jagerblitzen Akirei Scytale Mike Azariah Andski Corlan Dashiva
Most entertaining, particularly failed efforts to recruit Hans into GoonWaffe.
Covering Titan Tracking, Learning Implants, Nullsec Politics, Recent carrier nerf, fleet doctrine and soo much more.
And now with chat room goodfytes!
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
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