So... I've noticed a common trend of attacking either Aspies/Autists, or more specifically often, "self-diagnosed aspies". Yes, we know it's the #1 self-diagnosed mental condition right now, because among the many many symptoms listed, it covers everything from being socially awkward, to a different thinking pattern, to the part of just being special, so it basically covers every teens' fantasy explanation for their problems. Yes, we know it has a funny name, if you choose to add an extra S, and respell the ending as "burgers". This is not news. It's also not very original.

I just wanted to ask if people ever considered how many people they might be insulting who are clinically diagnosed? Potentially by multiple specialists? Believe it or not, it wouldn't make it into the DSM if it wasn't for the fact that some people actually do have it. And some of us, might even be the folks backing you up in a fleet engagement, scouting out your next kill, or ensuring those corp ships end up at the POS you need them, when you need them.

People like *cough*Xenuria*cough* obviously have special needs of some sort. But it's a really shoddy excuse to throw around attacks on wide swaths of people. Try to narrow your insults, like insulting pedophiles! (Completely unrelated to the last sentence, I assure you!)

Also, as my "inb4", yes, I'm completely aware how much humiliation I just set myself up for in this thread. So, um... have fun.

As for whether Aspergers is a valid DSM-V diagnosis, that's hardly relevant. The label means something to those that identify themselves with it and it means something to those that use it.

And it all worked out in the butte.

I often come to the eve online forums for some mental health realtalk.

He suffers from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome I'm not sure that anybody lucky enough to get drunk while they are still a fetus can be suffering.

It's just a insult, or curse if you will, e.g. wishing harm upon someone for which illnesses and afflictions are quite in vogue now that asking god to damn everything has lost it's power.

If you get insulted by that then the problem lies 100 percent with you. Just stop being insulted by it. I don't get insulted either when I see people calling others fat ugly neckbears. Even though I am in fact fat, ugly and in need of a shave.

Yes it's very sad that there are people who have such illnesses or syndromes or afflictions or whatever. But that's the point in the wishing it upon someone else as an insult.

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I'd suggest you also reconsider your view of "appropriate" use of any insults.

It is very sad, that your trivialising and generalising of this issue in the guise of popular culture in any way seriously represents anything other than the lack of any values by some people. I fail to see anything to respect about it at all.

There's a big difference between being able to not be emotionally affected by crass insults and accepting them as "valued". Case and point: You simply say stop being affected by them, but then say that there is purpose to an insult? What kind of garbage are you trying to make people swallow here?

Then I guess this point in the Terms of service is irrelevant:



I'd suggest you also reconsider your view of "appropriate" use of any insults.

It is very sad, that your trivialising and generalising of this issue in the guise of popular culture in any way seriously represents anything other than the lack of any values by some people. I fail to see anything to respect about it at all.

There's a big difference between being able to not be emotionally affected by crass insults and accepting them as "valued". Case and point: You simply say stop being affected by them, but then say that there is purpose to an insult? What kind of garbage are you trying to make people swallow here?

Too many people in this world feel it's their right to cry victim over every little thing they don't like and imho it's just pathetic.

i'm self-diagnosed with awesome

The CSM is an advocacy group based on persuasion. Someone on the Autism spectrum, or god-forbid self-diagnosing themselves, has no place on the group, since the entire point is being able to understand social cues and get policies through.

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The real problem with discrimination against autists is that autism is heavily used as an excuse by socially akward douchebags for saying inredible stupid stuff. A perfect defense, basically it comes down to "I can say whatever I want and if you respond to it in a negative way you are fascist and discriminating me, so you better shut up." You should seriously blame THOSE people, they are much more discriminating against any real autists than anyone else.
And if you don't like my post, I will report you, 'cos I am a jew and not liking my posts is clearly discriminating.

Its a valid point if someone is being stupid and deliberatley using it as a social loophole as you suggest, but it still doesn't justify the use of the kind of slurs of association against disadvantaged groups.

In this sense you shouldn't justify your actions on the basis of someones else's and you should be responsible for your own actions and values.

I just hope I'm not the only one who is perverely amused by the idea of making fun of people who act like nerds in the context of an internet spaceship game. We're all nerds, folks. Looking down on other nerds for being even more socially 'stunted' is funny, but ... I forgot where I was going with this.

The CSM is an advocacy group based on persuasion. Someone on the Autism spectrum, or god-forbid self-diagnosing themselves, has no place on the group, since the entire point is being able to understand social cues and get policies through.

Ah yes, the affirmative action argument. Did you know quadriplegics live in houses? Construction workers build houses. So why shouldn't we have a quadriplegic construction worker?

I see a considerable amount of people in the eve community mocking people who have the condition. It does indeed suggest to me that the eve community may in fact have a higher ratio of "real life assholes" than the population at large. And the claim that the eve community is just pretending to be assholes in the game, is not really true.

Try playing WoW for a month. Compared to mainstream MMOs, the EVE community comes off as remarkably mature and well-mannered. Which is just the sad state of society, unfortunately.

So... I've noticed a common trend of attacking either Aspies/Autists, or more specifically often, "self-diagnosed aspies". Yes, we know it's the #1 self-diagnosed mental condition right now, because among the many many symptoms listed, it covers everything from being socially awkward, to a different thinking pattern, to the part of just being special, so it basically covers every teens' fantasy explanation for their problems. Yes, we know it has a funny name, if you choose to add an extra S, and respell the ending as "burgers". This is not news. It's also not very original.

I just wanted to ask if people ever considered how many people they might be insulting who are clinically diagnosed? Potentially by multiple specialists? Believe it or not, it wouldn't make it into the DSM if it wasn't for the fact that some people actually do have it. And some of us, might even be the folks backing you up in a fleet engagement, scouting out your next kill, or ensuring those corp ships end up at the POS you need them, when you need them.

People like *cough*Xenuria*cough* obviously have special needs of some sort. But it's a really shoddy excuse to throw around attacks on wide swaths of people. Try to narrow your insults, like insulting pedophiles! (Completely unrelated to the last sentence, I assure you!)

Also, as my "inb4", yes, I'm completely aware how much humiliation I just set myself up for in this thread. So, um... have fun.

You folks all know I'm new there, right? I usually am attending ops in a Rifter.

Edit: Missed your edit ^^ but gonna post anyway.

Okay, all meanness aside, nobody's talking about intellectual impairment. Having someone on the autism spectrum be part of the CSM is like having a quadriplegic lion tamer. Not only will he not be able to tame the lions, but he will quite likely get eaten alive in the process. I suggest spending some time reading the blogs and commentary of the current CSM members to get a sense of the degree to which they like to troll each other. In spite of all that, they get things done, because they know how to laugh off a troll and move on.

That's one reason I heartily endorse sending as much of the current crew back (minus Darius III) as possible. They oppose each other on lots of things but are still able to work together, and that's rare enough without social impairments in the mix.