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Summersnow
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Posted - 2008.01.30 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Summersnow on 30/01/2008 08:00:22 1 jump from jita in a 1.0 system.
umm...
wtf???
Someone want to tell me how you lock people, let alone blow them up while there still in warp?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:00:00 -
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De-sync
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Summersnow
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin De-sync
which means what and is it petionable?
cause I didn't crash or anything, just warped from a gate in a burst and arrived at the next one in a pod
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Droneo Queen
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:03:00 -
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smartbomb
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:04:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 30/01/2008 08:05:59 Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 30/01/2008 08:05:09 Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 30/01/2008 08:04:53
Originally by: Summersnow
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin De-sync
which means what and is it petionable?
cause I didn't crash or anything, just warped from a gate in a burst and arrived at the next one in a pod
De-sync is not petitionable as it doesn't "exist"
I can't give you the exact definition as I lack the exact words for it
Also it could be a smart bomb
of course in this situation I'd say "wait what?"
Were you at war with any one?
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 30/01/2008 08:08:49 They won't refund ships lost due to desync. Fleet battle vets know this well enough, but unfortunately for everyone else the only time they are likely to encounter desync is in Jita, so it isn't necessarily going to be a familiar aspect of gameplay.
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Summersnow
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:14:00 -
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Edited by: Summersnow on 30/01/2008 08:15:41 Nope, no wars.
Sounds to me like CCP needs to fix there **** BEFORE they try to push for even more people and even more overloaded hardware vis there steam deal.
I don't mind losing stuff in a fight, but getting blowed up while in warp isn't a fight, its just (undescribable because the words get bleeped out...).
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Elrca
Blue.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:17:00 -
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Where you missioning? Ratting? or in a belt?
De-sync is when the client and server are out of sync 
Basically the client says your in warp, but the server has you at another place/not moving
So if you were doing any of the above, the rats could have killed you...
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 30/01/2008 08:19:37
Originally by: Summersnow Edited by: Summersnow on 30/01/2008 08:15:41 Nope, no wars.
Sounds to me like CCP needs to fix there **** BEFORE they try to push for even more people and even more overloaded hardware vis there steam deal.
I don't mind losing stuff in a fight, but getting blowed up while in warp isn't a fight, its just (undescribable because the words get bleeped out...).
Technically you got blown up before you entered warp, it just took the client awhile to realize it (the nature of the desync phenomenon )
The bigger question is why? You aren't in a war, so you either accidentally attacked someone or you were unlucky enough to be a bystander when someone suicide smartbombed someone else (in which case you probably weren't the target unless you were carrying millions in blueprints or faction gear or something.) Or as Elrca said you could have been destroyed by rats, although there wouldn't be any of those in a 1.0 system unless you were mission running (and the Jita area isn't a good place for doing missions.)
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AK Shaman
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:21:00 -
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about 2 weeks ago NPC kill me in warp (about 1au away), all 9 BS make a exelent wreak hit :) After petition, GM say fill bug report form and wait responce from bug search team ... still waiting
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Summersnow
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:35:00 -
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I was carrying 2 gist A shield hardners I'd just picked up in Rens :-) those are what I want back.
When I got back to the gate in a new ship my wreck was at the gate I was headed to, so I obviously died there after coming out of the warp I was still in.
Unfortunately my wreck was empty, but I only had 1 kill target, who wasn't in system so shouldn't I have gotten a second one for someone looting my wreck?
Did I get the kill target for the person looting the wreck and nothing for who killed me cause it was a death by ccp server screwup instead of a real kill?
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Valan
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:45:00 -
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Even if you petition and get the ship you won't get the mod back. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig |

Cotton Tail
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.01.30 08:50:00 -
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And what absurdly weak ship were you hauling those gist items in?
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Larno
Gallente Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:09:00 -
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You got suicided cause you were carrying expensive mods in a weak ship. You won't get the mods back, and I doubt you will get the ship back either. Carry expensive mods in a ship with loads of HP next time (T1 hauler with shield extenders is NOT enough). ---------- "Whining gets you stuff, that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed." |

Zorai Miraden
Gallente East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow I was carrying 2 gist A shield hardners I'd just picked up in Rens :-) those are what I want back.
When I got back to the gate in a new ship my wreck was at the gate I was headed to, so I obviously died there after coming out of the warp I was still in.
Unfortunately my wreck was empty, but I only had 1 kill target, who wasn't in system so shouldn't I have gotten a second one for someone looting my wreck?
Did I get the kill target for the person looting the wreck and nothing for who killed me cause it was a death by ccp server screwup instead of a real kill?
The person who killed you, and the person who looted you could be the same person. They just would have needed a spare ship close by to board. Concord only kills the offending ship.
But in regards to being around Jita I say welcome to the most dangerous area in EVE. And that's not just due to the lag and desync that frequent the system.
I stay away from Jita at all costs.
Though killing someone in warp would be difficult. Were you by chance afk?
I know a tactic I heard of that would work in 0.0 is setting up a warp bubble in the path between two gates and a disco BS. That suprise attack on smaller ships and your tank turned off you would be dead. Recruitment Thread EKT Website |

CountOtto Black
Circus Fantastique
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Posted - 2008.01.30 09:26:00 -
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And here folks, endeth the lesson, "Don't transport expensive items in a crappy ship".
It could have been desync, but looking more like a combination of suicide killing and maybe a little lag. (In Jita? No!!!!)
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Summersnow
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Summersnow on 30/01/2008 10:32:44
Originally by: Zorai Miraden Though killing someone in warp would be difficult. Were you by chance afk?
Nope.
If I had been afk I wouldn't have known I was still in warp now would I and wouldn't have any reason to complain 
Just don't seem right that warp to zero travel would get you kilt that easily cause of lag or desync.
I would have hoped after all the time eve's been around CCP would have fixed this issue by now, this is the same issue that cost me my first cruiser many many years ago.
Actually looking back, I can think of far more deaths via poor server performance then actual npc/pvp combat 
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Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow Edited by: Summersnow on 30/01/2008 08:17:00 Edited by: Summersnow on 30/01/2008 08:15:41 Nope, no wars.
Sounds to me like CCP needs to fix there **** BEFORE they try to push for even more people and even more overloaded hardware vis there steam deal.
I don't mind losing stuff in a fight, but getting blowed up while in warp isn't a fight, its just (undescribable because the words get bleeped out...).
I don;t want the shiop, I want the mods I was carrying back :-p
Or people could stop all being in the same place as soon as CCP upgrades the servers. When you go to the most crowded system in the game, you ask for trouble... Rens and Amarr got around the same prices and dont have these trouble.
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Ping Li
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow
Just don't seem right that warp to zero travel would get you kilt that easily cause of lag or desync.
You don't get killed by lag/desync. It was a player that killed you by suiciding his ship probably using smartbombs. This can cause lag/desync (especially in a crowded system) and that's why it looked like you were killed while in warp. You would most probably also have lost your ship if there was no lag at all.
Furthermore you will only get kill-rights on the one that killed your ship, the one that looted your ship will get criminally flagged to you and your corp so he can be shot for the next 15 minutes.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.30 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow Edited by: Summersnow on 30/01/2008 10:32:44
Originally by: Zorai Miraden Though killing someone in warp would be difficult. Were you by chance afk?
Nope.
If I had been afk I wouldn't have known I was still in warp now would I and wouldn't have any reason to complain 
Just don't seem right that warp to zero travel would get you kilt that easily cause of lag or desync.
I would have hoped after all the time eve's been around CCP would have fixed this issue by now, this is the same issue that cost me my first cruiser many many years ago.
Actually looking back, I can think of far more deaths via poor server performance then actual npc/pvp combat 
You were dead before you undocked, you just didn't know it yet.   
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Sul Condbax
Open Season
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow
Actually looking back, I can think of far more deaths via poor server performance then actual npc/pvp combat 
I blame my losses on lag too.
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MOS DEF
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin De-sync
which means what and is it petionable?
cause I didn't crash or anything, just warped from a gate in a burst and arrived at the next one in a pod
No it means CCP's netcode is rubbish.
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Mik kyo
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zorai Miraden
The person who killed you, and the person who looted you could be the same person. They just would have needed a spare ship close by to board. Concord only kills the offending ship.
Wrong
Originally by: Zorai Miraden But in regards to being around Jita I say welcome to the most dangerous area in EVE.
Wrong
Originally by: Zorai Miraden Though killing someone in warp would be difficult.
0.o
Originally by: Zorai Miraden I know a tactic I heard of that would work in 0.0 is setting up a warp bubble in the path between two gates and a disco BS. That suprise attack on smaller ships and your tank turned off you would be dead.
Wrong
10/10 for good understanding of game mechanics, wide expierience in the matters that you talk about, and just generally good poasting!
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Zorai Miraden
The person who killed you, and the person who looted you could be the same person. They just would have needed a spare ship close by to board. Concord only kills the offending ship.
And then he would die to concord 0.5 seconds later because he was flagged as a global criminal.
Quote: I know a tactic I heard of that would work in 0.0 is setting up a warp bubble in the path between two gates and a disco BS. That suprise attack on smaller ships and your tank turned off you would be dead.
Which also doesnt work.
Before you post advice, learn about the game first mkay?
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:49:00 -
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you were suicide bombed and sufferred desync, thanks for the gistis :P
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flashfreaking
LFC FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Droneo Queen smartbomb
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Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: flashfreaking
Originally by: Droneo Queen smartbomb
This
no, i locked him and shot at him as i do normally, everything was fine my end, he just suffered desync i think.
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Summersnow I was carrying 2 gist A shield hardners I'd just picked up in Rens :-) those are what I want back.
When I got back to the gate in a new ship my wreck was at the gate I was headed to, so I obviously died there after coming out of the warp I was still in.
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Sandeep
Raptus Regaliter Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.30 11:55:00 -
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What weapon is listed in the loss mail?
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Fink Angel
Caldari The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.01.30 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sandeep What weapon is listed in the loss mail?
My god man, don't come onto these forums using all that fancy logic and cleverness, just jump in with the rabble and spout nonsense if you want to fit right in.
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