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Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:38:00 -
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Darius III wrote:
As you may not know, I made many suggestions to CCP regarding many areas of gameplay that are broken, ridiculous, imbalanced or just don't make sense. I made positive contributions during the "Emergency Summit" while trolling CCP and the CSM members at the same time.
As we saw, you also lied about revealing NDA information to Riverini. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 12:54:00 -
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Darius III wrote:Vile rat wrote:
I didn't attend the emergency summit because my son was in the hospital. I'm waiting for your excuse why you didn't attend pretty much any of the CSM discussions leading up to and coming after that summit.
My thanks for the speedy delivery of your nectar laden tears. Can you supply the nutritional value of them? As your tears are very sweet, I suspect they are laden with pure cane sugar extracts. I need to watch my figure, and I think I must limit my caloric intake.
You really don't get this whole 'politics' thing, do you? |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:27:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:I don't get it  So he broke NDA or not, whatever but for the sake of argument he did, to us gamers, right? And the other CSM are angry because breaking an NDA could hurt CCP because of competition? Or... I need a smoke now
The CSM system works because the people involved are able to have discussions away from public scrutiny. In these discussions they can talk openly about the benefits or detriments of some pretty far reaching ideas without having to justify positions taken or just playing to hypotheticals.
When a member of the CSM delegation leaks internal chatlogs that have been understood to be NDA protected, they breach the trust of not only the fellow CSM and CCP Development teams that work in the channel, but also with the players who count on the CSM to have those conversations in a productive manner.
D3 broke that trust. While the leak wasn't 'core' NDA material and CCP chose to disregard it as an NDA violation because they were already looking pretty bad and the riots were just around the corner, it doesn't mean that D3 didn't break that trust.
Our job as constituents is to remind future voters that the candidate has a record of poor performance. Coupled with the report of another CSM that he's largely been an absentee representative, the hope is that he doesn't wind up sapping votes away from other viable candidates who would be better suited to represent player interests and maintain adherence to the NDA. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:45:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Please tell me I am wrong and why, or I will cast my to darius!
Easy peasy: Let's say you wanted to discuss changing wardec mechanics. 5 devs and 7 CSM sit down and start talking. They go over existing mechanics and throw out some wild ideas about changes that could be made. if there are 12 people in the room, the conversation can be fairly productive as long as you've got decent leaders keeping everyone on topic.
Now, try to have that same conversation in an arena with 500 people observing who can throw their opinions in at any time and realistically, no one to control the mob.
Which group gets more work done? |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.13 13:56:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Yeah but during the meeting those 500 people are not there and those that do attend the meeting should be able to handle the pressure and publicity afterwards not to mention knowing that what they say will be scrutinized. If they can't then they are worse than the random youtube video blogger. Meaning, they don't deserve my vote. Their position comes with the price of sticking ones neck out there, in return they get a lot we don't.
That's what the meeting minutes that get published are for.
Discussion happens outside of the two regular meetings as well. Leaking information is detrimental to the process because everyone has to stop and damage control, which is what happened when his leak was reported, also evident in the 'fearless' newsletter bit from last summer.
Honestly though, the bigger issue is two CSMs pointing out in this thread that D3 basically did nothing this term, which means he's not likely to do much next term either. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:01:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:You can't have a D3 thread without a few fireworks. It seems current CSM members are intent on slandering Fair Darius' campaign early. Let me just say this reeks of petty jealousy- and if you feel so threatened by Darius' popularity as to try and slander his good name - then no one is going to think very highly of you.
Darius had an uphill battle before two of the most trustworthy CSMs came out with the revelation that he couldn't even be bothered to show up.
Cognitive dissonance posting doesn't make that any less disturbing a point. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:06:00 -
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Darius III wrote:Courthouse wrote:
Cognitive dissonance posting doesn't make that any less disturbing a point.
Them there is pretty big words from a goon.
Ah red me a gud book dis one tahm. Had purdy picteures an errythan. Also shoed up ta mah job like I sez I wud. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:12:00 -
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Cyzlaki wrote:It's obvious now Goons have a clear agenda based on slandering Darius' CSM7 campaign. If Goons feel so threatened by D3 then in my mind he is definitely doing something right.
Hey, since we're posting buddies now I'll clue you in on a little secret: I'm the CSM boogeygoon. See, every CSM season I come out and start posting a whole lot about certain candidates. What this does is takes all the belligerantly anti-goon voters, like yourself, and solidifies them for the candidates that they've stupidly aligned themselves with. Now, combine that with doing it to several candidates and what you'll find happens is that not a single anti-goon candidate can get enough cohesive votes to even get noticed, let alone elected.
Rational voters who look to these threads to see how candidates present their cases, handle questions, respond to trolls and deflect the obvious muckraking aren't generally impressed by the 'nom nom moar tears' type of responses, so thankfully D3 has done like 80% of my job for me. The rest is about solidifying all of the fervently anti-goon morons to vote exclusively for him so that he manages to get a solid 250-300 votes out of the pools of other potential chairman candidates like Seleene, or up-and-comers like Hans. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:18:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Not if we all get the info, or do you think the CSMs don't tell their friends within corp/alliance over TS etc? RIGHT! 
Neither The Mittani or Vile Rat leaked NDA protected information in even private channels that I'm in with them. In fact more often than not they refused to speak even broadly on a topic for fear that it would approach NDA limits too closely. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:19:00 -
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Sirref Naes wrote:Goons definitely have an attraction to this thread. It's sorta sick that they only seem to care about the "Brick Squad." part in his title and nothing more. Any CSM/pilot posting about an alliance vs alliance issue seem to only care about the influence on the map and nothing more.
I think a TEST guy mentioned the brick thing. The rest of us are on top of him for being a douchebag and absentee CSM. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:26:00 -
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Sirref Naes wrote:Courthouse wrote:Sirref Naes wrote:Goons definitely have an attraction to this thread. It's sorta sick that they only seem to care about the "Brick Squad." part in his title and nothing more. Any CSM/pilot posting about an alliance vs alliance issue seem to only care about the influence on the map and nothing more. I think a TEST guy mentioned the brick thing. The rest of us are on top of him for being a troll CSM. So he fulfilled his promise as CSM? Can any other CSM say the same?
Well, no, because as you can plainly see you edited my comment poorly in an attempt to make an invalid point.
I mean, you didn't even wait like a page or two so the original post wasn't so blatantly obviously there. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.13 14:33:00 -
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Two step wrote:Darius III wrote:
Your voice is muffled when you speak from the end of Mittanis digestive tract. Because I don't feel the need to be part of your Polly Pretty Pants Tea Party in Skype doent mean I didn't participate. Coming from a guy whose campaign focus was on the fact the he lived in a wormhole I take your tears as a sure sign I am doing things right. As you are one of the herd blindly following Mittani's every suggestion, I have to ask-did he ask you to post here? thanks for your interest in my campaign-D3
Lots of work get s done on Skype. You don't participate. I'm not sure what my campaign focus has to do with you not doing work. Can you explain the relationship? Nobody asked me to post here. I posted here because I don't want people to think that Vile rat has some problem with you, and because you running on your so called accomplishments on CSM 6 is laughable.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=798131#post798131
ruh roh raggy!
edit: heh, I'll just quote it here too:
Quote:Seleene wrote:Doctor Eezee wrote:Hey Seleene, could you comment on THIS post in the Darius III campaign thread? Vile Rat and Two Step claim that Darius did pretty much nothing while he was in the CSM. D3 then argues that they just say that because they are in love with Mittens. Since there are no official records of what each member of the CSM did during their time in office, it would be helpful to hear the opinions of some of the other CSM members. Vile isn't even running and, Goon or not, is one if the most stand up guys I've ever dealt with in or out of game. Two Step's work on the CSM was exemplary. D3 can't even stand in thier shadow. Take them at thier word and add mine to theirs. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:19:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Question is, who is willing to push for that change after having thousands of people train for a specific ship and fit just in order to be most effective and qualify for ship replacement program and entry to fleet.
I have a hard time believing any alliance leader would dare doing that. Or if he would that one would not prepare his alliance for that change in any way he can get away with.
We did that. If you look at our Delve-era videos and propaganda, we were using Apocs almost exclusively. Now we use Maelstroms and Drakes. Before both of those we favored Rokhs/Megathrons. Alliances adapt.
Quote:But I digress, I want a candidate who wants to make low-sec more viable than empire and yet different than 0.0 but worth it as"endgame" (for lack of a better word, since this is EVE.)
And for the love of god, is there no candidate who realize and wants local removed and fracking gone already? Or did the rest of my lobby group leave years ago.
Local is gone in wormholes. There's also a lot of non-consentual PVP that goes on there. It may be a better fit for you than lowsec.
That said, mittens did pitch an idea for a lowsec revamp a few years ago at EVE Vegas. He wrote about it in one of his early blogs: http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/67950/page/3 |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:43:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Now what about policy making?? I want answers!!
Or will I have to buy a candidate to push for removal of local and proper low-sec love?
Elise is the only candidate to come out with a solid idea for changes to local thus far. Most know that it's a pipe dream to think that it'll be removed completely.
If you want that sort of gameplay, go wormholin'. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:48:00 -
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Man, back in the day Scooter would never have stood for this level of sperg in his alliance. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.02.13 16:06:00 -
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Heya boss, look, I play this video game and the company that made it is in the process of setting fire to their offices which happen to be on some rock in the middle of the North Atlantic, and, well, see I'm sort of a big deal to a bunch of internet nerds and I'm going to need the rest of the week off so I can fly to Hurkurkisturp and put out a fire. Actually, I'll need a few days of next week off too, so whatever you had planned for me we'll have to put on hold.
It's internet spaceships, serious business. Thanks for understanding! |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.14 06:07:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:10 pages later, and D3 doesn't have 100 likes yet, compared to other candidates. This campaign won't go well. lol
Well, if you hadn't noticed, brick can't exactly field a fleet large enough to take an incursion site these days, so the sycophants really only have so much dust they can kick up about him.
The frothing rage he puts out whenever he's put to task for his record makes this the best sort of political theater thread since the days of Jade Constantine. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.16 22:56:00 -
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RUSROG wrote:Are the Goons afraid of D3 actually doing something that isn't going to force EVE to continue being dominated by the Goons and Co.?
No, we have our agenda, the agendas of others that work to the betterment of EVE that we support and CCP who throw out clownshoe ideas from time to time. A CSM filled with rational individuals who can work well is preferable than a CSM with a handful of bucket trolls who serve no purpose.
Look, we're not here to ruin EVE and run CCP out of business. That goes against our own interests. In fact, we'd like EVE to get even more popular. That's just more people for us to **** off and hopefully new communities, like Reddit was, to create nullsec blocs out of.
As far as Lucian and D3 and the whole gaggle of faggots that are flagellating themselves in this thread, I already answered as to our strategy on that in this very thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=798056#post798056 |
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