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Gyfrex	Posted - 2008.02.01 15:08:00 - [31] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Gyfrex Originally by: Wendat Huron When will we see a corpse of something being shot by that? You won't...there won't be one left. depends of the slug actually. if you fire one that is sharp and small enough, it would be so fast and entering so hot that you would gain a new hole from one side to another and totally cauterized now, if you're shot by something, let's say, a 88mm sized one, you would be pretty much transformed into a pulp. literally. He said shot by "that" referring to it specifically (I think), I think (and hope) that one fires nice big slugs that make you dissappear...just because that would be cool, but small railguns with small slugs would be like a lightsaber in effect, makes a hole on both ends and dries everything up just like you said ---
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.01 15:28:00 - [32] Originally by: Shalia Ripper I forgot, the English built the first jet passenger aircraft....to crash. ZING! ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Avery Fatwallet	Posted - 2008.02.01 15:31:00 - [33] Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 01/02/2008 15:32:32 edit: nvm i mixed up coil gun and rail gun. anyways, there is a real working railgun site on the web, from two guys that built a railgun. very small but very working. and very years old too.
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.02.01 15:43:00 - [34] Originally by: Avery Fatwallet Edited by: Avery Fatwallet on 01/02/2008 15:32:32 edit: nvm i mixed up coil gun and rail gun. anyways, there is a real working railgun site on the web, from two guys that built a railgun. very small but very working. and very years old too. Power Labs does all sorts of stuff along those lines, including both coil and rail guns. Laboratory rail guns have been around for decades, and the basic theory goes back over a century. It's just that capacitor and reactor technology are catching up to make it a practical weapon.
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.01 16:31:00 - [35] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Entilzah Valen And they will probably NEVER manufacture the final, finished product once its developed. Well, given it's a British company assume that even if the US is the client that Britain will have the technological knowhow to build it's own rails aswell. The US get's the guns, we get the patents. The US had no problem using British Harriers, I don't see where this will present a problem. And for those who think 10 Mj is something, wait till this thing revvs up to 32Mj. KABLAMMO! In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.01 16:34:00 - [36] Originally by: Dheorl Originally by: Kirjava Americans believe they invented the lightbulb, television, motorcar, jet engine (we realy hold a grudge over this one, the USAF wanted to pool resources, they had nothing we had a proto, took the proto and said it was too secret to share with the Brits ). Don't forget the supersonic jet. And hypersonic. We've been up to Mach 6+. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.01 16:34:00 - [37] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Gyfrex and not a single mention of the fact that the thing was built by a British owned company Qft. ***** amerifags think they do everything. We do, now get back to licking my boots. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.**
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.01 16:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Gyfrex and not a single mention of the fact that the thing was built by a British owned company Qft. ******* amerifags think they do everything. We do, now get back to licking my boots. Will do as soon as you get back to sucking off on our R&D, Scientists and Doctors. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Doctor Fruitloop	Posted - 2008.02.01 16:39:00 - [39] Originally by: Kirjava We do, now get back to licking my boots. Will do as soon as you get back to sucking off on our R&D, Scientists and Doctors. Zing! Originally by: me bored The only bad thing about pokemon is what a frustratingly terrible trainer ash is. Can you believe that he actually tried to use a caterpie to catch a flying type pokemon? What a noob.
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.02.01 16:40:00 - [40] Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Entilzah Valen And they will probably NEVER manufacture the final, finished product once its developed. Well, given it's a British company assume that even if the US is the client that Britain will have the technological knowhow to build it's own rails aswell. The US get's the guns, we get the patents. The US had no problem using British Harriers, I don't see where this will present a problem. Actually, the US Marines have quite a problem keeping Harriers from crashing. Except for helicopters, VTOL aircraft have a really bad safety track record.
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.01 16:41:00 - [41] Originally by: Frezik Actually, the US Marines have quite a problem keeping Harriers from crashing. Except for helicopters, VTOL aircraft have a really bad safety track record. But a successful 6:1 kill/death ratio in aerial combat against the Argintinians. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Gyfrex	Posted - 2008.02.01 18:52:00 - [42] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Frezik Actually, the US Marines have quite a problem keeping Harriers from crashing. Except for helicopters, VTOL aircraft have a really bad safety track record. But a successful 6:1 kill/death ratio in aerial combat against the Argintinians. Days of the Harrier are over, bring on the F-35B! ---
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.01 18:58:00 - [43] Originally by: Gyfrex Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Frezik Actually, the US Marines have quite a problem keeping Harriers from crashing. Except for helicopters, VTOL aircraft have a really bad safety track record. But a successful 6:1 kill/death ratio in aerial combat against the Argintinians. Days of the Harrier are over, bring on the F-35B! Okay, I just want to know we have the best of the best. If we modify the F-35B for our own needs then thats good enough. Eurofighter still kicks arse though - saw one at an airshow.... Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Gyfrex	Posted - 2008.02.01 19:03:00 - [44] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Gyfrex Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Frezik Actually, the US Marines have quite a problem keeping Harriers from crashing. Except for helicopters, VTOL aircraft have a really bad safety track record. But a successful 6:1 kill/death ratio in aerial combat against the Argintinians. Days of the Harrier are over, bring on the F-35B! Okay, I just want to know we have the best of the best. If we modify the F-35B for our own needs then thats good enough. Eurofighter still kicks arse though - saw one at an airshow.... The F-35 (aka the Joint Strike Fighter) was developed by a load of nations (Britain, US, Australia are the ones that come to mind the most, but theres at least 5 more) so lotsa people are gunna have it. Eurofighter is a great interceptor...but with the days of close range dogfights over and its lack of stealth technology its gunna suffer compared to the 5th gen fighters like the F-22 or the F-35. ---
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.01 19:26:00 - [45] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Entilzah Valen And they will probably NEVER manufacture the final, finished product once its developed. Well, given it's a British company assume that even if the US is the client that Britain will have the technological knowhow to build it's own rails aswell. The US get's the guns, we get the patents. Not legally. Unless there is some sort of international treaty between the US and the UK, or the the US has given permission, the D.o.D. owns all the material and technology. If it was like anything where I worked before where we worked on lithium ion cells for air-to-air missiles and tank mounted laser guns, there will be a physical requirement that the research be done in the US and all material to stay in the US. Alcatel a french owned company, owned ours - they sent people to help us on projects, but the only thing they got out of our DoD contracts were profits. In fact, a little web research shows the BAE has a division in Minniapolis where its doing this work. And, this contract is not involving only BAE, there are 16 other entities involved. This is probably the best overview of the program, research plans, lethality and all the works; Liny The aim of politics is to keep the populace alarmed and clamorous to be saved by menacing it with imaginary hobgoblins. The urge to save humanity is a false front for the urge to rule it.
ToxicFire Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2008.02.01 20:17:00 - [46] Edited by: ToxicFire on 01/02/2008 20:16:56 Not the first RL railgun but first weapon's grade design prototype usage, we've had railguns for years. ------------------------------------------ Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.02.01 20:26:00 - [47] Point is, if all goes ****** with relations with the USofA, Britain can quickly build Railguns as we have the technical knowhow - noone respects those kinds of treatys during a conflict. That will hopefully never happen but the point is, we can should we need to. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
JetJon	Posted - 2008.02.01 20:51:00 - [48] Edited by: JetJon on 01/02/2008 20:57:40 not the first, just the biggest that i know of, and first military application that i know of Linkage didnt see the other link. this thread shows nothing new. a kid working in his basment while going to shcool full time made a nice railgun, the bigger one just cost more money to make. its still useless.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:10:00 - [49] Hate to break it to you but there's been working railguns for years. The problem isn't making a railgun that works "that is very easy". The problem is making a railgun that won't destroy the barrel the first time you shoot it. ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:19:00 - [50] Originally by: Kirjava Point is, if all goes ****** with relations with the USofA, Britain can quickly build Railguns as we have the technical knowhow - noone respects those kinds of treatys during a conflict. That will hopefully never happen but the point is, we can should we need to. Actually, if you had read Ademaro Imre's post, the patent info and everything is held on US soil. So even if Britain and America were to have a catastrophic falling out and go to war with one another, England STILL wouldn't have railguns, unless they had already leased the technology back from the US, or developed their own in-house using another company.
Gyfrex	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:00:00 - [51] Edited by: Gyfrex on 01/02/2008 22:01:01 Originally by: Bish Ounen Originally by: Kirjava Point is, if all goes ****** with relations with the USofA, Britain can quickly build Railguns as we have the technical knowhow - noone respects those kinds of treatys during a conflict. That will hopefully never happen but the point is, we can should we need to. Actually, if you had read Ademaro Imre's post, the patent info and everything is held on US soil. So even if Britain and America were to have a catastrophic falling out and go to war with one another, England STILL wouldn't have railguns, unless they had already leased the technology back from the US, or developed their own in-house using another company. This, While the british may technically "own" the patents and blueprints, the US controls them, the only way to get them would be to use another section of the company with different scientists, and a modification of the blueprints, or to lease the BPs off the US, otherwise it MUST be a different company working off different blueprints, the US didn't want to give away the source code for the JSF let alone something as large scale as this, the Brits will get them, but don't expect them to be the same. ---
Ademaro Imre Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:25:00 - [52] Originally by: Kirjava Point is, if all goes ****** with relations with the USofA, Britain can quickly build Railguns as we have the technical knowhow - noone respects those kinds of treatys during a conflict. That will hopefully never happen but the point is, we can should we need to. What I wrote above applies more to pure research and would not apply to things already made like the HK-44 or the new guns the US is looking at and just want evaluation copies. Railguns are special and batteries that extend the flight time of air to air missiles by 6 minutes is special. Oh course the UK has the know how, and so does the US. But there is a military axiom, I forget the name, that - your weapon is built by the lowest bidder. The US and the UK should have more cooperation on weapon systems as the overall cost is lowered because parallel development is avoided. More than likely the majority of employees at BAE location in the US would be US citizens. To even work on those types of contracts you have to have at least some ability to pass a security clearance or at leastbe a US citizen unless the contract allows for administrators and the like. Akbar Obama Huessein, a British citizen, would certainly have to pass clearances to work on the actual research in the US if not already a US citizen. BAE would have to physcially take their paperwork, computers and employees to the UK to continue the work. Of course, BAE is using their own technology to get the initial contract, but after that they won't have exclusive ownership or rights to their portion of the weapon system. They would have to start all over and find new contractors to start research into all the other parts of the gun. The aim of politics is to keep the populace alarmed and clamorous to be saved by menacing it with imaginary hobgoblins. The urge to save humanity is a false front for the urge to rule it.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:28:00 - [53] I'm surprised they aren't talking flywheels for the capacitor part of it. EVE RELATED CONTENT
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:48:00 - [54] Originally by: SoftRevolution I'm surprised they aren't talking flywheels for the capacitor part of it. Flywheels are good for storing up a lot of energy slowly and releasing it slowly. Capacitors are for storing up a lot of energy and releasing it all at once. Which is exactly what you need for a railgun.
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:53:00 - [55] Originally by: SoftRevolution I'm surprised they aren't talking flywheels for the capacitor part of it. Actually, I'd imagine something like an advanced capacitor would probably be more practical. Less moving parts and all. Of course, I have no idea how far along this technology is, but some kind of capacitance would be necessary to store the charge before firing.
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.02 02:11:00 - [56] Originally by: Gyfrex Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Frezik Actually, the US Marines have quite a problem keeping Harriers from crashing. Except for helicopters, VTOL aircraft have a really bad safety track record. But a successful 6:1 kill/death ratio in aerial combat against the Argintinians. Days of the Harrier are over, bring on the F-35B! That is the saddest excuse for a fighter I've ever seen in my life. It looks like a pregnant dart... In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
hellsknights RennTech SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 02:29:00 - [57] Don't worry everyone CCP will nerf it..lol
Sphit Kar	Posted - 2008.02.02 12:55:00 - [58] It look good in theory but I doubt the viability of this thing. Just look how much energy it need to harvest! yikes
Gyfrex	Posted - 2008.02.02 13:41:00 - [59] Edited by: Gyfrex on 02/02/2008 13:41:57 Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: Gyfrex Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Frezik Actually, the US Marines have quite a problem keeping Harriers from crashing. Except for helicopters, VTOL aircraft have a really bad safety track record. But a successful 6:1 kill/death ratio in aerial combat against the Argintinians. Days of the Harrier are over, bring on the F-35B! That is the saddest excuse for a fighter I've ever seen in my life. It looks like a pregnant dart... Yeah but looks mean nothing when you're fighting from miles away. Edit: also its not an interceptor its a Multirole fighter so it needs to be fairly clunky to carry all the bombs etc, and still maintain its stealth profile. ---
DrBiologist Caldari W.A.S.P	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:25:00 - [60] Will all you *******s stop complaining about america? every freakin thing about america is complained about! KISS OUR ASS! stop nip picking and complain about your own country. The rail gun is joint effort with many nations working together! WHO GIVE A RATSASS ABOUT WHO DID WHAT! I geuss all this complaining is our punishment for being the world superpower

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