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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Infinity Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.02 22:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Kateryne
With the upcoming resistance change - i can see the Vargur also seeing slightly more action in PVP, where it's high EM and EXP damage will be able to be brought to bear more often.
800mm auto IIs with barrage and falloff rigs will pretty much give you over 50km of pure carnage...
Do you realise it does nto have enough PG to fit 800mm and fallof rigs?
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Kelbesque Crystalis
Minmatar
Eve University
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Posted - 2008.02.03 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Kelbesque Crystalis on 03/02/2008 17:13:40
I fully agree that the vargur does not offer anything significant over the maelstrom in terms of mission running speed. I'm all for a grid increase.
Originally by: Hotice
About LP and such. We get LP as we do missions. I use navy ammo a lot since I have tons of LP. If I got t2 ammo bpo, I would be using t2 ammo more aften too. However, I don't just go out and buy navy ammo/t2 ammo with isk. ISK is not the issue here really, it is about effeciency. Transport ammo around between missions is not fun in my book.
The most expensive faction ammo costs more than barrage. If you dont want to take advantage of that, thats cool, but dont berate someone else for applying the economics properly.
You make it sound like you need to haul ammo every mission, or that it even takes up massive amounts of room (unlike say cap 800 charges).
1) dump say 50LP into an ammo that sells well
2) throw it a hauler and haul to a place where it sells well
2a) skim some off the top for personal use
3) ???
4) profit
4a) buy barrage with profits
5) repeat once a week etc.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Infinity Enterprises
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:14:00 -
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Usign t2 ammo is not dumb Its very smart if you can use it well.
When i changed form Beams to pusle with scorch in my abaddon, My time to finish missions got almost halved. I spend 8 mil per day buyign ammo. And make about 35 mil per hour with missions, ina day of 4 playing hours.. Far far froma bad idea.
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Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.04 05:18:00 -
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Using ACs in missions is stupid. Using Barrage in missions other than Angel ones is stupid. Using ACs on the Vargur and claiming things like "carnage at 45Km" is particularly stupid, since at 45Km you will be limited to 1 damage type in order to do noticeable damage and you will also do half your nominal DPS (or less), i.e. typically much less than you would do with Artillery at that range because you're at optimal + falloff.
But it's kinda funny to still see people "discovering" the Vargur as a "great AC boat" when they clearly have no clue about missions and ship stats in general.
EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
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