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Scharfe Kerneisen	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:37:00 - [1] Ok, we may not need more ships.. but we love more ships! CCP, you've given us lots of great new ships. Heavy Interdicters, Titans, Carriers, Interceptors, all the T2 ships. Where does one go from here? - I would say definately not bigger. Though a few new big ships wouldn't go entirely astray. What I suggest is more variety, without washing out the flavor! I would hate to see the racial flavors vanish by giving every race the ability to do everything as well as every other race. I like that races have specialties! What I would really like to see though is more faction stuff! Faction Battlecruisers! Faction T2 ships (Could you imagine a Republic Fleet Interceptor or a Khanid Navy Damnation!?) Faction Carriers (Domination Mother Ship anyone?) How about a T2 Dreadnaught or Faction Dreadnaughts? - Or both!? Also, as an Amarr I've noticed the Amarr have less options for duel-racial-pirate-faction ships. I figured this is probably due to a lack of a pirate faction to put them in... Personally I'd like to see an Amarr+Gellante design. Caldari probably would like a Caldari+Gellante design as well. Also, Rigs are cool. How about some faction rig blueprints?
Eleana Tomelac Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:14:00 - [2] I want a serpentis vexor/ishtar, a serpentis deimos, a serpentis brutix... And the serpentis should keep themselves up to date and build myrmidons! So I want a serpentis myrmidon! Same with the blood raiders and the amarr ships! This would at least add more color schemes to the current ships... Until we can configure the colors of the ship! I've seen some nice arbitrators to some amarr family's colors in the item database and it was nice! Just as the blue EoM arbitrator is cool. Well, faction ships would give more fitting options and should be at a reasonable price, not at HAS price for the cruisers! -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Assault Frigates MK II
Balor Haliquin Amarr	Posted - 2008.02.04 18:01:00 - [3] Officer Ships =P (Yah i know its way WAY to powerful) I love the idea of more Factions ships, i personaly would love to see a Faction Abaddon. And i like the idea of a faction Amarr/Gallente ship group. I think it would be neet to see all of the ships in the races of eve have a faction version.
Tarron Sarek Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:15:00 - [4] The problem is, there aren't many unique slot layouts left. This means additional ships will be more and more like the current ones. There is a limit to the variety of ships in EVE. ___________________________________ - Balance is power, guard it well - Please stop using the word 'nerf' Nothing spells 'incompetence' or 'don't take me serious' like those four letters
Scharfe Kerneisen	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:34:00 - [5] Originally by: Tarron Sarek The problem is, there aren't many unique slot layouts left. This means additional ships will be more and more like the current ones. There is a limit to the variety of ships in EVE. It's not about the slot layouts. It's about the ship bonuses.
WardogX Minmatar Outkasts	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:49:00 - [6] I still want mid sized capital ships.. 1/2 step between carrier/dread and battleships... still low sec only of course. These mid range ships could have 1/2 the defense capability of a dread/carrier of course. I also think unlocking this mid sized capital ships could allow for tons of new specialty task capital ships. T2 & Faction capitals would be very cool also like OP said.
Scharfe Kerneisen	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:56:00 - [7] Originally by: WardogX I still want mid sized capital ships.. 1/2 step between carrier/dread and battleships... still low sec only of course. These mid range ships could have 1/2 the defense capability of a dread/carrier of course. I also think unlocking this mid sized capital ships could allow for tons of new specialty task capital ships. T2 & Faction capitals would be very cool also like OP said. Now that you mention half sizes... It still think a min-freighter would be nice. Half the size, twice the speed. Larger then an industrial, but smaller then a freighter.
Tarron Sarek Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Scharfe Kerneisen It's not about the slot layouts. It's about the ship bonuses. Same slot layout, just different bonuses? I don't know about you, but I would find that boring. Especially since ever ship without damage bonus would quite likely be deemed useless and weak. So there goes one bonus. One left for 'variety'. ___________________________________ - Balance is power, guard it well - Please stop using the word 'nerf' Nothing spells 'incompetence' or 'don't take me serious' like those four letters
Zofaman	Posted - 2008.02.04 21:06:00 - [9] Edited by: Zofaman on 04/02/2008 21:06:46 I would like to see (and buy) variants of a space yatch. -Pricy, thus a status symbol, with lots of variants. -No slots, just some decent shield to not get easily suicide ganked in highsec -Customizable colorscheme, surely it can be done. -Classy and elegant shapes and colors, like old cars. Perhaps it would be possible to have modular ships. Where a ship can add features, thus no longer look like a single-mesh-model. -Special graphical effects, like um disco lights or something, something out of the ordinary, perhaps adjustable spotlights, or adjustable light patterns.
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2008.02.04 21:17:00 - [10] Just give me paint jobs. A lot of the rest should sort itself out. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
WardogX Minmatar Outkasts	Posted - 2008.02.04 21:33:00 - [11] Originally by: Jurgen Cartis Just give me paint jobs. A lot of the rest should sort itself out. Biggest problem with ship colors is 95% of the population will make them all black or all red.. or combos of black and red. You wouldn't think this would be true since people favor all kinds of colors.. but black and red tend to be the "bad-ass" colors so pvp mmo's people lean towards those 2 colors... would be a lil boring if every ships was black and red in eve. This is coming from long PVP MMO experience in games that allowed armor/cloth dying and such. I do think eve ships need a better paint job though.. some look cool but most are bland.
Kiki Arnolds Caldari	Posted - 2008.02.04 22:52:00 - [12] You would think that Black/Red would be the uber paint scheme, but really, it will be the poser paint scheme, the real hardcore players will want thier ship to stand out, tauntint the enemy to mess with them.... Would you rather have a red/black combo that no one would notice, or the a NEON PINK CARRIER OF DOOM... As for ships, there are three concepts I'd like to see... Escort Carriers or Drone boats for the other factions Mini Freightor Some way to transport assembled ships through highsec ç¦
Shin Ryuu	Posted - 2008.02.04 22:58:00 - [13] sunder class, like a dread only used exclusively for short range and tanking overall: Signed/
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:20:00 - [14] Originally by: Shin Ryuu sunder class, like a dread only used exclusively for short range and tanking overall: Signed/ Wow, you mean like a heavy assault dread. With a 1Gn ab, 5 capital blasters and a siege mode that doesnt allow you to tank better but allows you to double or triple the damage you do, needs fuel but also allows you to still be mobile. Nice, I would buy it. ---------------------------- Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........ Hah, no more hijacks here!!!!
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:57:00 - [15] Why do we need more ships at the moment? Is there a specific role that isn't fulfilled by the ships that allready is in game? Simply saying "moar, moar!!" seems kinda dumb tbh.
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.02.05 03:03:00 - [16] I wouldn't mind racially neutral ships, that require no specific racial training to use. Just for the interesting mixes it would make. They don't even have to be viable in.. well, anything, but I think it would be interesting. Plus, no more "I didn't train X race, so I can't fly anything in the corp hanger" issues. All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us left! -Rauth
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2008.02.05 05:16:00 - [17] Originally by: WardogX Edited by: WardogX on 04/02/2008 21:43:12 Edited by: WardogX on 04/02/2008 21:41:15 Originally by: Jurgen Cartis Just give me paint jobs. A lot of the rest should sort itself out. Paint jobs is a 2 edge sword.. one side.. customizing anything is awesome in any game... but in pvp mmo's dye/paint jobs turn into a 1-2 color community experience. 95% of the population will make them all black or all red. You wouldn't think this would be true since people favor all kinds of colors.. but black and red tend to be the "bad-ass" colors so pvp mmo's people lean towards those 2 colors... would be a lil boring if every ships was black and red in eve. This is coming from long PVP MMO experience in games that allowed armor/cloth dying and such.. those are the colors people migrate too... pvp mmo.. after pvp mmo.. like everyone is brainwashed on black and red. Even I am too.. I love all black armor or all black ships... lol.. guess darth vader implanted the "all black is bad ass" theme, deep in our psyche. Also even those who want to explore there color palette and make bright green or bright pink ships.. will stick out like sore thumbs amongst all the black/red ships.. so even a % of those color exploring people will get brainwashed by the masses in an attempt to fit in better. If eve paint jobs does every come around.. i hope it implements a complex paint scheme layering system that allows some uniqueness.. everyone will still have all black base coats for most part.. but aleast we will see red/yellow/blue/green pin stripping! :) I do think eve ships need a better paint job though.. some look cool but most are bland. Yeah, I know most would go for black/red (I want a dark green-black (Khanid colors) Apoc, personally). But seriously, who doesn't want the blue-gold Arbitrators the EoM use, or the camo that adorns Guristas vessels? And just for grins, a hot pink/white striped Kestrel. We can probably define a lot of the effects quite well with a relatively small amount of information, and so long as they're only paintable in station, that only has to be transferred to any given client one time. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Valharu	Posted - 2008.02.05 06:48:00 - [18] For new Ships I could see. Old. Fix Assualt Frigs and Destroyers. AF doesnt really do role and Destroyer can't take a hit or have enough slots to fit mods to make it worth while, hell even a Rifter has more slots then a Thrasher. New. Command Cruisers: Slightly tougher Cruiser that can fit a Gang Mod. Heavy Cruisers: Something between Cruisers and Battlecruisers. Something like Tech 1.5, give it 3 Bonuses. Heavy Battlecruiser: Heavier Battlecruisers that again is like Tech 1.5, give it 3 Bonuses Monitor Class Ship: Half the size of a Cap Ship, fits only large weapons, treat the weapons just like they do on the Marauder Class.
Mannliche Frau Baptism oF Fire VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.05 08:17:00 - [19] Originally by: Valharu For new Ships I could see. Old. Fix Assualt Frigs and Destroyers. AF doesnt really do role and Destroyer can't take a hit or have enough slots to fit mods to make it worth while, hell even a Rifter has more slots then a Thrasher. New. Command Cruisers: Slightly tougher Cruiser that can fit a Gang Mod. Personally I think a lower sig radius and longer targeting range would do a lot to help the destroyer class. Ships I'd like to see: Non-faction versions of pirate faction ships. Tier 2 destroyers -Drones/blaster boat for gallente -missile boat for Caldari -speed/falloff range for minmitar -??? for Amarr T2 industrial with bonuses to scanning/salvaging/hacking/tractor-beams T2 command destroyer (same as Valharu's command cruiser, but I'd rather see it on a destroyer) T2 EW destroyer - same as EAS but slower and lots more tank
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.02.05 09:03:00 - [20] A tier 2 dreadnaught Fix Af's Assault Destroyer 1 or 2 spcialized civilian ships (salvager,probing/hacking) no weapon bonuses of course since its civilian. Perhaps a BS sized mini dread Tier 2 Titan
Buyerr	Posted - 2008.02.05 09:15:00 - [21] Originally by: Scharfe Kerneisen Faction Carriers (Domination Mother Ship anyone?) How about a T2 Dreadnaught or Faction Dreadnaughts? - Or both!? while i tend to agree that more normal seize ships is needed i really disagree on the cap ships, cap ships is already way overpowering normal seized ships which is a bad thing... but should they do it i would like to see things like the csr(caldari state raven), and the t2 bs we are mission the af/hac/commandship heavy type Bs I declare war on stupidity
Buyerr	Posted - 2008.02.05 09:17:00 - [22] Edited by: Buyerr on 05/02/2008 09:18:41 Originally by: Tarron Sarek The problem is, there aren't many unique slot layouts left. This means additional ships will be more and more like the current ones. There is a limit to the variety of ships in EVE. i would actually like to see something new, like a bs with 10 high slots but very few med and low slots, or 12 high for that matter and even fewer med,low slots.. and a high dmg bonus or the other way around 10-12 med or low slots and very few of the rest and high bonus for tanking shield/armor. something that we haven't seen yet and which is very specialized. (or you could just give it 100% bonus as ship bonus blablabla as they have done with the marauders, but i think it would be much cooler to have 12 turrets then 6 doing dobbelt dmg I declare war on stupidity
Valharu	Posted - 2008.02.05 09:46:00 - [23] Ya, I would love the idea of a Assualt Destroyer. I could easily see a Minni T2 Destroyer having 6 Guns and 2 Launchers and 2 more slots so it can afford resist mods. Have one of its bonus be 20% per lvl to Afterburners. Not nearly as fast as MWD but it would not hurt the Destroyers Sig Radius either. Nice balance of both worlds. Maybe a Role Bonus so it can use larger launchers.
Thanat Ithos	Posted - 2008.02.05 11:13:00 - [24] I agree with the idea of new ships. An tier 3 bc, faction ship bc and capital would be also nice like tech2 faction ships. And please, also use new hull designs. Any time this variation of existing hulls is becoming boring û specially for tech2 ships. What IÆm Missing are ships of the following types: Ships with support mini professions An probe optimized ship which strongly reduces scanning time, but at the same time improves the quality of the scan. Also with enough resources to defend itself if attacked at a deadspace. Moon Mining ship û not as good as a pos, but can do also at high sec. Maybe in size between capital and normal industrials/mining barges. Salvaging ship, which improves salvaging speed and amount of salvage items you get from a wreck. Also per level it gives you a rising chance to get salvaging you need for tech2 rigs û also from standard wrecks. Refining ship û an industrial which can refine ore and ice. This is maybe special interesting while large mining ops, because minerals taking less space than ore. This way you need less hauling û maybe also in combination with mineral compression - new for the rorqual. Finaly the guardian vexor would be fine as standard faction ship at the LP stores Also new rigs would be fine. I would like to see drone bandwith extender, drone bay extender, external weapons hardpoints, also faction rigs would be interesting..
Eleana Tomelac Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2008.02.05 12:27:00 - [25] Originally by: WardogX Paint jobs is a 2 edge sword.. one side.. customizing anything is awesome in any game... but in pvp mmo's dye/paint jobs turn into a 1-2 color community experience. 95% of the population will make them all black or all red. You wouldn't think this would be true since people favor all kinds of colors.. but black and red tend to be the "bad-ass" colors so pvp mmo's people lean towards those 2 colors... would be a lil boring if every ships was black and red in eve. This is coming from long PVP MMO experience in games that allowed armor/cloth dying and such.. those are the colors people migrate too... pvp mmo.. after pvp mmo.. like everyone is brainwashed on black and red. Even I am too.. I love all black armor or all black ships... lol.. guess darth vader implanted the "all black is bad ass" theme, deep in our psyche. True for guildwars, but the black paint has turned into a gold sink with their component market... But this didn't keep people from buying black. In fact, many people who I played with were saving to buy the 'expensive with just different look' armor and paint it in black. I don't know if the fact that the playerbase was younger (at least in all the french guilds I've seen) would make a real difference. Originally by: WardogX Also even those who want to explore there color palette and make bright green or bright pink ships.. will stick out like sore thumbs amongst all the black/red ships.. so even a % of those color exploring people will get brainwashed by the masses in an attempt to fit in better. I'm very sorry for the people that won't follow their owncolor designs and just copy the others... Originally by: WardogX If eve paint jobs does every come around.. i hope it implements a complex paint scheme layering system that allows some uniqueness.. everyone will still have all black base coats for most part.. but aleast we will see red/yellow/blue/green pin stripping! :) I do think eve ships need a better paint job though.. some look cool but most are bland. Layered coloring armor plate per armor plate! -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Assault Frigates MK II
Thargat Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.05 12:28:00 - [26] Edited by: Thargat on 05/02/2008 12:30:13 As long as any new ships don't interfere with any of the current roles I'm all for it. Immersionwise it would be great with new different hulls and obsolete models. For more practical useful ships CCP would need to create new roles for them or make specialist ships. A few examples: Sentry cruiser. Nothing fancy compared to other cruisers but should get nasty bonuses to sentrys. Drone/fighter hauler (lots of dronespace but no bandwidth at all) would be nice. Fuelbarge (bonus to carrying liquid fuels or isotopes). POS tug (no warpdrive but ample of space to move posstuff around the POS and a bonus to anchoring). System defence ship (lower-cost ships that are unable to jump through gates, could also be presented as repaired obsolete ships, they could get bonuses to cargoscanning, webbing, scrambling, anchoring or other specialised tasks). Signal Enhancement ship (hardly any DPS but good sensors and great bonuses to targetpainters and range bonuses to remote sensorboosters). Specialist Transports (would only be able to haul specific cargoes, like livestock, uranium, pods, corpses and such). Processing ships (with salvage bonuses and the ability to recycle loot on the fly, should be capitalship class but be able to travel through gates) would spawn a new profession if they could also fit a cloak. just my 2c There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.
ITTigerClawIK Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.02.05 12:33:00 - [27] i honestly wouldnt mind seeing more ships to existing ship classes but mostly to the classes tht dont have uch veriety like the destroyer class only has 1 ship per race at the moment and maybe even another Battlecruiser for each race, since we have seen that the battlecrusier is such a populer class of ship able to fill in almost any roll and maybe a few extra cruisers here and there but faction verients of some of the other ships in existence would be awesome.... i know i owulndt mine an Amarr Navy Omen or better still an Amarr navy archon for that matter but another destroyer is definately in order Sig space reclaimed in the name of me -courtesy of Tiggy ([email protected])
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red Souls	Posted - 2008.02.05 13:36:00 - [28] Only extra ships I'd like to really see: - Another T1 destroyer (possibly in combination with +1 slots for existing destroyers). - Faction BCs (in combination with fixing existing faction ship fittings in all cases and slots in some cases, barring sansha which got their love) Otherwise, I find there is plenty of ship variety in EvE already, even though some classes need loving (AFs), and a lot of the faction ships are quite junk (all frigs barring the sansha one, then ashimmu/gila in the cruiser world, don't know about bigger ships) and nearly all of them (except sansha) need more fittings... Also, +1 slot for all destroyers so more people use this lovely ship class Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Azirapheal Amarr The Bastards	Posted - 2008.02.05 14:54:00 - [29] why do i perversely think that there would eb a lot of pink ships running around if we could colour them?
CryptorsChild PezCo - Ice Services	Posted - 2008.02.05 14:57:00 - [30] Maybe not more ships, but different models. I mean cmon CCP. You add a new shiptype, but it looks all the same almost all the time. You're lazy and we're getting bored over seeing the same models all the time.

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