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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.07 13:30:00 -
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A MWD bonus is a big no-no imho given the amount of nano users allready.
The drone bonusses the Ishtar gets are fine imho, allthough a drone speed bonus would be nice on top of the range and dps bonus we allready get.
It has been suggested plenty of times before but I really do agree with it, given the fact that it's intended to be a drone platform pursang, a role bonus like the covertops are getting a.k.a. 99% reduction in CPU fitting requirements for drone performance enhancement modules. The question this leaves is if drone control units should be included with that or not (the way I said it it wouldnt). This role bonus should apply to the Ishkur and Dominix as well.
The hybrid damage bonus is a wastefull bonus imho, tracking would indeed be better suited or even a small hybrid bonus instead of medium hybrid bonus.
Another question one may ask is why do you have 5 highslots with only 3 hardpoints, the Ishtar is allready getting a drone control range bonus, so what was the intended purpose of those two remaining slots, was it it cant sustain a tank and 2 neutralizers,
Another usefull change for all drone related ships could be to move the drone navigation computer and omnidirectional tracking link from being midslot modules to highslot modules allthough the effect of that may render the use of them on Domi's useless.
Moving the drone modules from midslots to highslots will also open up room for drone damage enhancement rigs (i.e. 10% drone damage increase at the cost of 50% all turret damage), pre-nerfing their use on ships not intended as drone carriers.
If you combine the role bonus of 99% cpu fitting requirement reduction for drone performance enhancement modules, move all drone modules to be highslot modules and introduce the drone damage mods then it doesn't need more powergrid and the whole hybrid bonus could even be dropped.
This approach leaves one pitfall though which relates to the advanced drone interfacing nerf and that is carriers and motherships having to fit drone control units in their highslots to reach maximum number of drones, the obvious solution to that would be to reinstate the advanced drone interfacing skill as it was pre-nerf but only effective for capital ships (could rename it to capital drone interfacing for clarity (for those before the nerf that means adding number of controlled drones without having to fit drone control units).
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.07 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Eleana Tomelac
My current ishtar fit (for missions) uses only one drone link augmentor
You do realise that fitting a drone link augmentor to an Ishtar is a waste if you have good drone range skills? The Ishtar allready gets a 10% per level drone control range bonus which surpasses the targetting range (77km versus 83km if my math is correct) of your Ishtar with maxed skills (targetting, HAC and drones).
This is my NPC Ishtar, currently setup against Guristas:
Low:
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Mid:
10MN Afterburner II (can change to MWD for belt ratting)
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
High:
Prototype Cloaking Device I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Rigs:
Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.07 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Galyrion
The ishtar is by far the most versitile and powerful hac atm. A buff would be insane.
Next time read before you post, this post discusses nerfing the Ishtar into it's intended role as drone carrier at the cost of some of that versatility, by boosting it's drone ability at the cost of nano/blaster fits.
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.07 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Galyrion
Edited by: Galyrion on 07/02/2008 13:58:46
Originally by: DrAtomic
Originally by: Galyrion
The ishtar is by far the most versitile and powerful hac atm. A buff would be insane.
Next time read before you post, this post discusses nerfing the Ishtar into it's intended role as drone carrier at the cost of some of that versatility, by boosting it's drone ability at the cost of nano/blaster fits.
Nerf being your word, I consider more pg a buff. Next time read before you post.
Originally by: DrAtomic
A MWD bonus is a big no-no imho given the amount of nano users allready, if anything a MWD penalty would be in place or some other penalty to prevent it from being nano-ed.
............then it doesn't need more powergrid or cpu and the whole hybrid bonus could even be dropped.........
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: DrAtomic on 07/02/2008 16:28:54
@Elena, jeah sry i assumed cap recharcgers in the mids for npc fit my bad... :)
@Anti-nano squad
Agreed, more cpu or more pg is not good given the nano-ers let alone a mwd bonus. This doesnt change the fact that the Ishtar has fitting issues in other fits then nano which should be addressed. The drone mod change is one idea that would accomplish that, allthough it would also benefit the nano-ers.
Maybe nano mods should give a cap penalty similar to the one mwd does.
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