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Blackberry Bold
Pegasis Internecine Acquisition Of Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.14 11:44:00 -
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I am looking for your support as a representative for those who live/roam in Worm Holes as well as the large number of high sec miners. These two groups are currently under represented on the council and I am looking to be your choice to fill that void.
Our goals on the council will certainly change as situations arise but the current two priorities are to insure that Worm Hole space is not "rebalanced" in order to make more people go to null sec and reduce the number of high sec NEW miner gankings (When uninformed new members rage quit we all lose.). The removal of insurance pay outs for high sec killings was long over due and many of us who discussed this issue with other players and contacted CCP about it were certainly please when this "moral hazard" (To use an insurance industry term.) was taken care of.
Thank you for your support. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2053
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Posted - 2012.02.14 11:47:00 -
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Android is what's in my pocket, bro. yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
357
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Posted - 2012.02.14 11:51:00 -
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Yeah more of an Iphone guy, too bad the goons blew up Steve Jobs retriever in the ice field. (also ice mining works really well with a one button mouse) Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
Tyrion Struan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.14 11:56:00 -
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Android crew checking in. So a main leg of your platform is to be for a fix (the insurance nerf) that has already been implemented. Great, visionary if you will. On the wormhole side, what differentiates you from Two Step? There must be something, because without it there hardly seem to be reason for the WH crowd to rally behind you instead? |
Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
382
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Posted - 2012.02.14 12:09:00 -
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As a new miner I support this vague and baseless platform and will give you my vote as I feel you're addressing my interests specifically, perhaps even at the expense of other more pressing issues and without regard to game mechanics.
+1 m8 07 fly safe |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
1086
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Posted - 2012.02.14 12:34:00 -
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Blackberry Bold wrote:I am looking for your support as a representative for those who live/roam in Worm Holes as well as the large number of high sec miners. These two groups are currently under represented on the council and I am looking to be your choice to fill that void.
Our goals on the council will certainly change as situations arise but the current two priorities are to insure that Worm Hole space is not "rebalanced" in order to make more people go to null sec and reduce the number of high sec NEW miner gankings (When uninformed new members rage quit we all lose.). The removal of insurance pay outs for high sec killings was long over due and many of us who discussed this issue with other players and contacted CCP about it were certainly please when this "moral hazard" (To use an insurance industry term.) was taken care of.
Thank you for your support.
Why should wormhole residents vote for you instead of me? Do you really think there are enough wormhole votes to split those votes and still be able to elect a single representative to the CSM? Vote Two step for CSM 7 CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog |
Malchristus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 13:27:00 -
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Two step wrote: Why should wormhole residents vote for you instead of me? Do you really think there are enough wormhole votes to split those votes and still be able to elect a single representative to the CSM?
That's possibly the whiniest, weakest, most pathetic political reply I have ever seen. You are AHARM for goodness sake not "If you play in my playground I'm going to sit here and sulk" Goons. Pathetic but now for the OP ...........
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Bei ArtJay
The Galactic Collective Sovereign Technologies
6
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Posted - 2012.02.14 13:34:00 -
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Two step wrote:Blackberry Bold wrote:I am looking for your support as a representative for those who live/roam in Worm Holes as well as the large number of high sec miners. These two groups are currently under represented on the council and I am looking to be your choice to fill that void.
Our goals on the council will certainly change as situations arise but the current two priorities are to insure that Worm Hole space is not "rebalanced" in order to make more people go to null sec and reduce the number of high sec NEW miner gankings (When uninformed new members rage quit we all lose.). The removal of insurance pay outs for high sec killings was long over due and many of us who discussed this issue with other players and contacted CCP about it were certainly please when this "moral hazard" (To use an insurance industry term.) was taken care of.
Thank you for your support. Why should wormhole residents vote for you instead of me? Do you really think there are enough wormhole votes to split those votes and still be able to elect a single representative to the CSM?
You imply then that anyone who plays this game as a w-space 'resident' should vote tactically for you regardless of your opinions.
When voting becomes tactical it becomes corrupt and pointless in my opinion. I would like to vote for you since you seem like you are a decent candidate and have done a good job so far, and agree with most of your opinions. However I am severely adverse to doing anything because I'm told there is no alternative. Putting my vote on hold for now so +1 like for black berry to see what he can present.
Also, this categorisation of 'nullsec dewller' 'highsec dweler' and 'w-space dweller' is horrible. There are many many of us that consider ourselves all three, and by splitting the vote you turn them off.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.02.14 13:35:00 -
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Malchristus wrote:Two step wrote: Why should wormhole residents vote for you instead of me? Do you really think there are enough wormhole votes to split those votes and still be able to elect a single representative to the CSM?
That's possibly the whiniest, weakest, most pathetic political reply I have ever seen. You are AHARM for goodness sake not "If you play in my playground I'm going to sit here and sulk" Goons. Pathetic but now for the OP ...........
Actually, considering the degree to which votes are going to be split, Two step has a very valid point and it's an entirely reasonable question to ask. But don't let that stop you from publicly demonstrating your political acumen, such as it is.
Now excuse me, I have some sitting and sulking to do.
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
1087
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Posted - 2012.02.14 13:44:00 -
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Malchristus wrote:Two step wrote: Why should wormhole residents vote for you instead of me? Do you really think there are enough wormhole votes to split those votes and still be able to elect a single representative to the CSM?
That's possibly the whiniest, weakest, most pathetic political reply I have ever seen. You are AHARM for goodness sake not "If you play in my playground I'm going to sit here and sulk" Goons. Pathetic but now for the OP ...........
I'm sorry you see my reply that way. I think it is a totally reasonable question to ask anyone who is competing for what is a small fraction of EVE's population. Given that last year I was the only wormhole candidate running and I was just barely elected to an alternate seat (100 votes fewer would have lost me the election), asking someone to directly compare themselves to me seems reasonable.
Bei ArtJay wrote: You imply then that anyone who plays this game as a w-space 'resident' should vote tactically for you regardless of your opinions.
When voting becomes tactical it becomes corrupt and pointless in my opinion. I would like to vote for you since you seem like you are a decent candidate and have done a good job so far, and agree with most of your opinions. However I am severely adverse to doing anything because I'm told there is no alternative. Putting my vote on hold for now so +1 like for black berry to see what he can present.
Also, this categorisation of 'nullsec dewller' 'highsec dweler' and 'w-space dweller' is horrible. There are many many of us that consider ourselves all three, and by splitting the vote you turn them off.
That isn't what I said at all. W-space residents should tactically vote for the w-space candidate that is most likely to win, since I don't think we have enough votes to elect more than one representative. It is up to everyone to decide who that one candidate is. I feel that I have the best chance to win, but given that there are already several other wormhole candidates, votes might be split enough that I won't get enough votes to get a seat.
Nowhere did I tell you there is no alternative to voting for me. I think it is critical to have a wormhole representative on the CSM. If this guy who named himself after a cellphone is the best chance, then vote for him. Vote Two step for CSM 7 CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog |
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Malchristus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:01:00 -
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Blackberry Bold wrote:I am looking for your support as a representative for those who live/roam in Worm Holes as well as the large number of high sec miners.
Congratulations you just managed to choose to politically represent the EvE equivalent of Israel and Palestine. One doesn't like, doesn't represent and has nothing at all to do with the other in any way shape or form.
Blackberry Bold wrote:These two groups are currently under represented on the council and I am looking to be your choice to fill that void.
Last time I checked AHARM had a representative, in fact he is the whiny post above my first. As far as high sec mining goes it's all about experience. You have any? You lost a Retriever in Friggi once but then it looks like you converted to losing your industrials in WH's. More curious none of them are the same WH so I don't see any experience living in either situation.
Blackberry Bold wrote:Our goals Who is our? Who is we? Are you already on the CSM as an alt or are you about to say something on behalf of the CSM before actually being on it?
Blackberry Bold wrote:on the council will certainly change as situations arise but the current two priorities HE DID!! He went ahead and completed the manifesto for everyone on the CSM. Lovely.
Blackberry Bold wrote:are to insure that Worm Hole space is not "rebalanced" in order to make more people go to null sec and reduce the number of high sec NEW miner gankings (When uninformed new members rage quit we all lose.). The removal of insurance pay outs for high sec killings was long over due and many of us who discussed this issue with other players and contacted CCP about it were certainly please when this "moral hazard" (To use an insurance industry term.) was taken care of.
Thank you for your support. You meant ensure right, please tell me ensure, you're not really going to bring insurance to your local WH POCO are you? New miner ganks are unavoidable, a necessity to enhance what is the EvE learning curve and totally impossible to monitor save 2 options a) Make a mining barge owned by a player under 9 months old completely invulnerable or b) Make it an RL punishable offence to shoot any miner in a mining ship or industrial. Which is your play? Sorry were you involved in the removal of that "moral hazzard" (thanks for pointing out the industry insider term for us plebs. The masses truly love a pious politician) because, if you were, then link that stuff. We want to see you for who you are! Post your countless threads started by you, give us examples of your courage in the face off CCP adversity. Oh wait, I just searched your name, there are two. One about you having a WH wet dream in Sell Orders And one about you listing low sec pirate gate camps and having others report them to you with the promise of hot drops (Neither of which are appealing to the demographics you say you are going to stand for). Be a good lad and move along son. Leave the politics to the ones who think they are grown ups.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:08:00 -
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Two step wrote:If this guy who named himself after a cellphone is the best chance, then vote for him.
I won't lie, I actually thought he was a Strawberry Shortcake character at first. Which was a plus. Oh well.
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
522
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:55:00 -
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Two step wrote:Blackberry Bold wrote:I am looking for your support as a representative for those who live/roam in Worm Holes as well as the large number of high sec miners. These two groups are currently under represented on the council and I am looking to be your choice to fill that void.
Our goals on the council will certainly change as situations arise but the current two priorities are to insure that Worm Hole space is not "rebalanced" in order to make more people go to null sec and reduce the number of high sec NEW miner gankings (When uninformed new members rage quit we all lose.). The removal of insurance pay outs for high sec killings was long over due and many of us who discussed this issue with other players and contacted CCP about it were certainly please when this "moral hazard" (To use an insurance industry term.) was taken care of.
Thank you for your support. Why should wormhole residents vote for you instead of me? Do you really think there are enough wormhole votes to split those votes and still be able to elect a single representative to the CSM?
Wouldn't it be more constructive to showcase the reason why we should vote for you in stead of him. While I can see your point I'd much rather vote for a candidate that shows he is superior in substance and ideas then claim the other guy is inferior voter base excludes him from running on a platform that is similar to your own. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
TekGnosis
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:12:00 -
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Plus Wan +1
Welcome to the political process BB.
The bickering in the last few posts notwithstanding, I think you've just received a taste of what can be expected. Every word of each post will be examined and torn down to the raw game mechanics change you are proposing. Nice shark tank to jump in to eh?
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Girard Thibault d'Anvers
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:18:00 -
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Just remember Mr. Phoneman... When your campaign is pointed, warp stabs won't save it. |
Bei ArtJay
The Galactic Collective Sovereign Technologies
6
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:22:00 -
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Two step wrote:W-space residents should tactically vote for the w-space candidate that is most likely to win
Dammit forums swallowed my reply. At this rate I'm gonna sell my vote to D3 again for a plex and be done with it.
What I was trying to say is that I strongly believe you should not run on this basis. A lot of people who would vote for you because you seem like a stand up guy, whose opinions are not too crazy, has on obvious interest in safeguarding w-space game-play and have a good track record will be put off by this stance and vote for Trebor or someone else who speaks for all players and not a specific part of the player base.
Whilst I do not underestimate the importance of the last CSM in changing CCP's view of their player-base, please donGÇÖt lose sight of the fact that the majority people playing eve donGÇÖt give two ***** about politics (in particular many w-space pilots who are nullsec bittervets who moved to w-space for a politics free game in the first place).
Sorry if my reply seemed like an attack, IGÇÖm actually trying to help. I really think if you run on the basis that if people donGÇÖt vote for a single candidate it will massively lower the overall number of people who call themselves w-space dwellers voting in the first place. Plus, if you run soley on the basis of being GÇÿTHEGÇÖ w-space representative you will miss out on all the potential votes from other parts of the player base who are really enjoying things like corp bookmarks. But then what do I know IGÇÖm not a political adviser, just a voter.
/incoherent rant over
And for the record IGÇÖd only vote for blackberry if he signed a contract stating he would never fit a WCS to a ship again :p |
Bei ArtJay
The Galactic Collective Sovereign Technologies
6
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:24:00 -
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Girard Thibault d'Anvers wrote:Just remember Mr. Phoneman... When your campaign is pointed, warp stabs won't save it.
* adds another contact to the J-man alt list. |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
1090
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Posted - 2012.02.14 15:39:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote: Wouldn't it be more constructive to showcase the reason why we should vote for you in stead of him. While I can see your point I'd much rather vote for a candidate that shows he is superior in substance and ideas then claim the other guy is inferior voter base excludes him from running on a platform that is similar to your own.
I think I do that over in my thread. I'd love to hear about why I should vote for Blackberry Bold in his own thread.
Bei ArtJay wrote: Dammit forums swallowed my reply. At this rate I'm gonna sell my vote to D3 again for a plex and be done with it.
What I was trying to say is that I strongly believe you should not run on this basis. A lot of people who would vote for you because you seem like a stand up guy, whose opinions are not too crazy, has on obvious interest in safeguarding w-space game-play and have a good track record will be put off by this stance and vote for Trebor or someone else who speaks for all players and not a specific part of the player base.
Whilst I do not underestimate the importance of the last CSM in changing CCP's view of their player-base, please donGÇÖt lose sight of the fact that the majority people playing eve donGÇÖt give two ***** about politics (in particular many w-space pilots who are nullsec bittervets who moved to w-space for a politics free game in the first place).
Sorry if my reply seemed like an attack, IGÇÖm actually trying to help. I really think if you run on the basis that if people donGÇÖt vote for a single candidate it will massively lower the overall number of people who call themselves w-space dwellers voting in the first place. Plus, if you run soley on the basis of being GÇÿTHEGÇÖ w-space representative you will miss out on all the potential votes from other parts of the player base who are really enjoying things like corp bookmarks. But then what do I know IGÇÖm not a political adviser, just a voter.
/incoherent rant over
And for the record IGÇÖd only vote for blackberry if he signed a contract stating he would never fit a WCS to a ship again :p
I'm not running on just being the wormhole candidate, but I do hope to have the support of as many wormhole residents as possible. In addition to that, I think my record shows that I am in favor of improvements that cut across many different areas of EVE (pretty much everyone uses POSes or Corp Bookmarks, for example). Vote Two step for CSM 7 CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog |
Zukan
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.02.14 18:35:00 -
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I too would like to know what you could bring to the table above and beyond what two step has done and undoubtedly will do if he's re-elected. How will you differ, what do you have in common (other than both having silly names)? |
Girard Thibault d'Anvers
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 19:57:00 -
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Blackberry Bold wrote:There seems to be some misunderstanding as to what these threads are for, and I apologize for any confusion this has caused. In political terms this is NOT an election. This is simply the equivalent of getting enough "signatures" so that your name can be placed on the ballot.
That's called a primary election or a ballot petition. Either way it is the beginning of your campaign. And I personally will sooner vote for Two step than you. In neither your opening post or subsequent, so far non-existent, replies you have failed to tell anyone what you plan to do, what would makes you more appealing, and why you should be preferable.
Back out now while you have shreds of dignity left rather than nothing left at all. You have tried to tie two very separate and different groups and play styles together but have given no reasons why you are their candidate. Give me a reason why I should tell all my newbie high sec miner friends and all my l33t WH friends that you and not Two step or Xenuria or Meissa Anunthiel or The Mittani or Kelduum Revaan or any one of the much more highly qualified peoples running...
Your post is childish and petulant, basically telling us that we should vote for you because it is you. From that perspective there is nothing redeeming. We donGÇÖt know who you are, what you do, or where you are in game. Do you really represent hi sec or wormholes? It can't be both. What part of your platform is one that I should be interested in? Actually for that matter, what is your platform? Make me want to vote for you!
If you canGÇÖt do that, you shouldnGÇÖt be here. Traded out the sword in my hand for the swords in my mind and in my heart... |
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Liara Desiato
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:08:00 -
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Girard Thibault d'Anvers wrote: Give me a reason why I should tell all my newbie high sec miner friends and all my l33t WH friends that you and not Two step or Xenuria or Meissa Anunthiel or The Mittani or Kelduum Revaan or any one of the much more highly qualified peoples running...
Maybe he represents the non-l33t WH people? I.e. the carebear corps that are in it for the space gold rather than the fun of explosions and lasers. Hard to say without a proper manifesto though..... |
Captain S04p
Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
6
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:09:00 -
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I really dont understand what you are trying to acheive here...
If you want wormhole space to succeed in the agendas of CCP and CSM, you will understand that we NEED a proven, reliable candidate that knows his ****. Nothing in your thread has shown me that and I have never heard of you before. Regardless of that, it does not matter...
Think about this for a second... the whole reason for our questioning is simple.
- What do you have to offer that Two Step already hasn't got nailed down.
- Say wormhole space has 3000(or whatever) votes, if we both vote for you and two step, neither candidates will get a full seat. This is potentially catastrophic for wormhole space.
- If we vote for a proven track record and hard working CSM Candidate that we KNOW knows his stuff and can get stuff done. We are more likely to get a canditate on the CSM who will work hard. We have no assurances of what you can do.
We are not voting for AHARM here, We are voting for Wormhole Space. I find it highly worrying when people get pissy when they are questioned on motives for running as a WH candidate, when the only real way we can be represented safely is Two Step.
We vote for more than one WH rep, we all potentially lose. |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4885
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:13:00 -
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Bei ArtJay wrote: You imply then that anyone who plays this game as a w-space 'resident' should vote tactically for you regardless of your opinions.
When voting becomes tactical it becomes corrupt and pointless in my opinion.
Congrats, with an attitude like that you're never voting on anything, ever.
WH people with actual political sensibilities who aren't Objectivists or fainting, delicate flowers should back Two Step. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Girard Thibault d'Anvers
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:35:00 -
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Liara Desiato wrote:Girard Thibault d'Anvers wrote: Give me a reason why I should tell all my newbie high sec miner friends and all my l33t WH friends that you and not Two step or Xenuria or Meissa Anunthiel or The Mittani or Kelduum Revaan or any one of the much more highly qualified peoples running... Maybe he represents the non-l33t WH people? I.e. the carebear corps that are in it for the space gold rather than the fun of explosions and lasers. Hard to say without a proper manifesto though.....
My sarcasm has obviously elluded you. I do apologize, it is difficult to translate sometimes into text.
Traded out the sword in my hand for the swords in my mind and in my heart... |
Malchristus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:12:00 -
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Blackberry Bold wrote:Frankly I am the only candidate running from my corp, alliance so if they are unwilling to use their alts to simply click "like" on a simple thread then clearly my resources in effort should be placed elsewhere.
Correct and thanks in advance for stepping down from a non-sensical candidate selection in which you made no manifesto, imparted no goals connected with either of the parties you claim to represent and admitting to the EvE community that even your own corp and alliance won't back your candidacy which, I think, is probably the self-confessed by you nail in your electoral coffin.
Bye now.
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Liara Desiato
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:25:00 -
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Girard Thibault d'Anvers wrote:Liara Desiato wrote:Girard Thibault d'Anvers wrote: Give me a reason why I should tell all my newbie high sec miner friends and all my l33t WH friends that you and not Two step or Xenuria or Meissa Anunthiel or The Mittani or Kelduum Revaan or any one of the much more highly qualified peoples running... Maybe he represents the non-l33t WH people? I.e. the carebear corps that are in it for the space gold rather than the fun of explosions and lasers. Hard to say without a proper manifesto though..... My sarcasm has obviously elluded you. I do apologize, it is difficult to translate sometimes into text.
No, it didn't elude me, sorry guess my post didn't really show that though :oops: My post was meant to contain more scorn on carebears than came across I guess. Reading it back, my post is kinda lame actually. My bad. |
OldMan Gana
The Flaming Sideburn's Art of War Alliance
27
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:26:00 -
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Never heard of you till now mate. Heard about the Trebor guy, he used to post something in the forums here and there, but never heard of you until now. Not trying to be a d1ck or anything, just saying that I at least never even knew you existed till now at election time.
" I spent most of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best-á |
Servitor 001
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:49:00 -
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+1 for you BB, but you need to state your posistion a lot more clearly mate.
Cheers |
winchcable
The Angelic Crusaders Acquisition Of Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:14:00 -
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really how much worse can he make it lol as long as there aren't and site in's. where the carebears sing along in jita. that a good term lol |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:28:00 -
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Malchristus wrote:Correct and thanks in advance for stepping down from a non-sensical candidate selection in which you made no manifesto, imparted no goals connected with either of the parties you claim to represent and admitting to the EvE community that even your own corp and alliance won't back your candidacy which, I think, is probably the self-confessed by you nail in your electoral coffin. Likes are free, votes ain't.
Have a space like.
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