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ShopperDuck ChopperRock
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: ShopperDuck ChopperRock on 05/02/2008 21:29:32 I was wondering which ship is the best for a solotrip to 0.0.
I need something to be able to tank a trible bs-spawn, and yet fast/agile enough to travel tru 0.0 without the big risk of getting ganked. (all ships can be caught, i know)
Is it a recon or hac or ? what is the best solo-trip-to-0.0-ship?
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:30:00 -
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Velator, hands down.
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Zephyr Rengate
Racketeers
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:37:00 -
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Deimos
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ShopperDuck ChopperRock
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:40:00 -
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but why?
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Ricky1989
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:48:00 -
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Chimera.
Fighters ftw.
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Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 05/02/2008 21:51:53
Originally by: ShopperDuck ChopperRock but why?
You need a ship that can dish out good DPS, tank damage from two or three battleships and their escorts (faction-specific tanking usually preferred), and that can align for warp fairly quickly (ideally).
Any T1 Battlecruiser or better can be fitted to do this relatively well, and probably a good number of T2 cruisers. I assume the Deimos was suggested because drones + guns = passable DPS, and Deimos has a solid tank. Plus, it's fast and aligns fast compared to bigger ships.
Open up EFT and try a bunch of stuff, do some ship setups research, find some ratting guides (perhaps someone has the link to that).
EDIT: Link to Ratting Guide ________________
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Zephyr Rengate
Racketeers
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: ShopperDuck ChopperRock Edited by: ShopperDuck ChopperRock on 05/02/2008 21:29:32 I was wondering which ship is the best for a solotrip to 0.0.
I need something to be able to tank a trible bs-spawn, and yet fast/agile enough to travel tru 0.0 without the big risk of getting ganked. (all ships can be caught, i know)
Is it a recon or hac or ? what is the best solo-trip-to-0.0-ship?
Deimos can do all that + dish out a hell of a lot of damage, especialy against guritstas and serpentis rats.
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Laila Eldgorn
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:55:00 -
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First explore a bit with HAC or battlecruiser (which can be insured pretty well). When you get known with 0.0 stuff, get alt or friend scouting your battleship in some nice place where you can either cloak in safespot or dock in NPC station like in Delve 0.0 (good rats there) or Stain 0.0 (best rats there) or Curse (ok rats there) etc. Sometimes you can also buy a battleship somewhere. Also command ships (absolution, damnation, nighthawk, astarte) are pretty cool for ratting if you can afford one.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:13:00 -
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I love my ratting Dominix... simply because it is the drone machine.
I am able to perma-run my tank while my fighters take care of the rats... rats of any size, might I add.
Highs: 2x NOS 1x 425mm Rail (for getting aggro) Drone Link Augmentor Tractor and salvager
Meds: 100mn AB Target Painter (helps drone damage.... really!) 2x Cap Rechargers Drone Navigation Computer (speed boost for drones)
Lows: Large Armor Rep Medium Armor Rep "xxx" Armor Hardner (active) "yyy" Armor Hardner (active) Damage Control Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Capacitor Power Relay
You can fit rigs for armor rep or salvage help if you want...
I perma run my medium... only occasionally pulsing the large. With the Dominix's drone bonus, you only need to carry 100 rounds for the occasional railgun shot.
Remember, keep a repper drone or 2 to rep any drones that may take damage.
Now Recruiting. Join "Neogen" channel for details
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:17:00 -
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Faction-fit Caldari Navy Raven.
Please let me know when and where you'll be ratting, and me and my friends will be more than happy to *cough* help.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:18:00 -
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For Angels, I found the Sac to be perfect. Shieldtanked with a Domination med booster and just one T2 Invul (other meds were MWD and I forgot what), it could tank triple Seras (and of course any lesser spawns) and dish out 500+ dps, while also being pretty fast in aligning (even had a spare low for an istab I think) and having a huge cargohold for ammo and the occasional good loot item.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:27:00 -
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Dominix or Raven is enough, unless you want to be nber and use a MS. 2isk
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:30:00 -
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DRAKE DRAKE DRAKE DRAKE DRAKE DRAKE Low cost to buy and fit compared to battleships. Good DPS especially with some BCU IIs. Excellent tank. Battleships won't hit you for full damage and you can outpace the battleships you do encounter, and hit them from beyond their optimal range. Even though Caldari ships handle worse than anyone else's, the Drake is still more maneuverable than a battleship.
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Glassback
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:55:00 -
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Ishtar.
G.
BH Kharnubis > Need more people against the MC meanies |
ExcellciuM
Exair Industries United Connection's
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:57:00 -
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I hear soloing rats in a titan is good practice these days. Might take you some time to get through the belts in some systems though.
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Andtha Splits
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:29:00 -
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Assault Frigs are fine except when you consider the cargo size compared to ammo necessary. If you're based out of a npc station or a couple of jumps from empire that's hardly an issue. Enyo for the win. |
RattleHed
Phoenix Allianz
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:34:00 -
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Nighthawk+mwd+2*rigs for dps+1salvage
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Reven Darklight
256 FREELANCERS Black Scope Project
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:43:00 -
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i've always liked the drake, with decent BC skills the drake has an awesome tank.
I've got mine at 68% resists minimum and 17k of shields and with T2 hvy missile launchers its only ever a matter of time. pack a 5 pack of light drones to take care of the frigs.
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Glassback Ishtar.
G.
------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |
codex09
Minmatar Entropy Systems Mining Co. The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:57:00 -
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Hmmm well from what I have seen the Raven seems to be one of the most popular ships for ratting in, in both empire space and in 0.0.
I am a minmatar pilot so am not exactly sure why a lot of people like the Raven but at a guess it is because it is able to pack decent DPS, it has reasonable sized drone bay and can armor tank reasonably well with the right skills.
I don't fly one but have heard that they aren't too bad with manuvering and can allign reasonably fast enough.
they aren't that expensive unless you want to go the way of a CNR and have a fair sized cargo hold (although these mods that now take up 100 units of space are a bit of a pain in the rear)
As for BC's I have heard that the Drake is a good ship as it can carry quite a few missile launchers and can also armor tank reasonably well. Really it is a scaled down version of a Raven only it can move much quicker and can be much more deadly when used by a pilot that has good skills. The Drake would have to be close to the best BC available out of all the BC's and I would dare to guess that it would be one of if not the best DPS machine available.
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Reven Darklight
256 FREELANCERS Black Scope Project
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Posted - 2008.02.06 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: codex09
armor tank reasonably well.
*cough* shield tank *cough*
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codex09
Minmatar Entropy Systems Mining Co. The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.06 00:15:00 -
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Hmmm I thought Caldari ship were armor tankers, anyway if it is shield it's shield. __________________________________________ Don't let your FEARS Dictate where u go or what u do, use them to your advantage!!! |
The Slayer
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.06 00:16:00 -
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Domi, hands down.
Highs : 2 x Heavy Diminishing Nos (They don't get much cap but every little helps) 2 x Tractor Beams 2 x Salvagers (Why have guns on a drone boat)
Meds : 1 x Quad Lif Booster Rockets (Mwd to get in range) 4 x Cap Recharger II
Lows :
2 x Large Armor Rep II 2 x Energized Adaptive II 1 x Damage Control II 1 x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates
Can't perma run the tank but who needs to. Rats never get me past about 25% armor even if I leave the armor reps off. Use T2 heavy drones always.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.06 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: The Slayer Domi, hands down.
Highs : 2 x Heavy Diminishing Nos (They don't get much cap but every little helps) 2 x Tractor Beams 2 x Salvagers (Why have guns on a drone boat)
Meds : 1 x Quad Lif Booster Rockets (Mwd to get in range) 4 x Cap Recharger II
Lows :
2 x Large Armor Rep II 2 x Energized Adaptive II 1 x Damage Control II 1 x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates
Can't perma run the tank but who needs to. Rats never get me past about 25% armor even if I leave the armor reps off. Use T2 heavy drones always.
Point 1.... Use the gun to grab aggro, so you don't have to wait ages for the entire spawn to aggro you instead of popping your drones. If you REALLY don't want to fit a gun, fit a medium armor repper to heal any drone armor damage.
Point 2... rats only deal 2 damage types... ditch the 1 EAMN II and the plate in favour of 2 type-specific hardeners (Guristas shoot kin and therm, Blood Raiders shoot EM and Therm, etc).
Point 3... a plate is not like a shield extender. If you cannot be stable with 7k armor... you won't be stable with 10k armor.
Point 4... The setup I posted above works for regular ratting, cosmic anomolies, complexes and solo level 4 missions. It may not be the prototypical Domi setup... but I've been flying that same setup for over 2 years, and I've never lost a Domi to regular, complex or mission rats. Other Pilots who jump in and pop me when ratting, sure... but never to rats.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.06 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: RattleHed Nighthawk+mwd+2*rigs for dps+1salvage
Tech 2 ships only have 2 rig slots
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente Eve University
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Posted - 2008.02.06 01:10:00 -
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Cheap ratting setup? Vexor/Thorax will get the job done ... just fit it well ;) AFs work too (Ishkur FTW - at least the old one) ...
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Eclip
SUBLIME L.L.C.
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Posted - 2008.02.06 02:43:00 -
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its been my experience that usually any hac is faster to rat with then a BS of that race. Uusally speed getting to the ships/wreck looting salvaging etc is much faster. They have comparable tanks to the BS's when specific damage is tanked. They tend to use alot of ammo though which can be a pain if u dont have a station near by. Other then a hac a domi or rave would be the fastest i would say. Maybe a siege typhoon with MWD but i havent flown one in a while -------------------------------------------------- It is not what u are underneath, but what you do that defines you |
Robert0288
Caldari g guild
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Posted - 2008.02.06 02:46:00 -
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deimos, ishtar, drake, raven, dommy, most AF's
deimos = DPS, Tank, room for salvager/tractorbeam/cloak, con = uses lots of ammo ishtar = drones kick ass, highest for anything you want, you don't even need to be tanked (can use speed too), con = drones dieing in 0.0 = fail. drake = BC sized, tank, dps, room for other stuff up high, con = not very maneuverable, somewhat ammo dependent. raven = what else is there to say? dommy = no ammo needed, lots of room for any type of setup (you can rat in pvp setup), don't lose your drones. AF's= might have trouble with faction spawns and ammo usage.
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VeiledFlare
NEW EDEN CLEANING SERVICES INC.
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Posted - 2008.02.06 03:21:00 -
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Edited by: VeiledFlare on 06/02/2008 03:23:00 For solo trips from empire to 0.0, or while in 0.0 but traveling into potentially hostile territory, I use a Wolf or Harpy. The Wolf for Sansha, and Angels. Harpy for Serpenti and Guristas. Both can kill faction spawns easily. People who are able to fly HACs I know favour the Deimos, Ishtar and Vagabond.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2008.02.06 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon I love my ratting Dominix... simply because it is the drone machine.
I am able to perma-run my tank while my fighters take care of the rats... rats of any size, might I add.
Highs: 2x NOS 1x 425mm Rail (for getting aggro) Drone Link Augmentor Tractor and salvager
Meds: 100mn AB Target Painter (helps drone damage.... really!) 2x Cap Rechargers Drone Navigation Computer (speed boost for drones)
You know, with a target painter you don't need to railgun to get aggro. I just have a target painter for that purpose and don't use any guns.
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