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BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:02:00 - [1] So whats gonna make Bob failure cascade. A bob titan going down? A fetus titan going boom? all i know is, I want my falcon on a titan km if it goes down. ********** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
IMAKESTUFFs	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:08:00 - [2] you can't jam titans, ******* idiot.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:09:00 - [3] Originally by: IMAKESTUFFs you can't jam titans, ***** idiot. thats the point my friend. thx for kind words sherlock!!!! ******** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
Ask Unbeatable Tenacious Danes	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:13:00 - [4] Guessing they will keep fighting till they are out of ISK. Then fight for another week or two. Then earn moar ISK and roam Delve eternally. Then buy a pony and some icecream.
waferzankko Caldari Bears Inc Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:13:00 - [5] we are long past the tipping point. :D
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:15:00 - [6] Originally by: waferzankko we are long past the tipping point. :D good point, I guess what I meant is tipping point to failluurrreee caasscccaaaaaadde. ********** Bruceswarm, make it happen.
WraithFire Cassandra's Light	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:16:00 - [7] There will be alot of factors that can be considered in order for BoB to failure cascade. One scenario will be when Molle steps down as the head honcho of BoB, but he is a proud man. If that is to happen, Goons will be singing, "Beginning of the End." Another is when majority of BoB pilots does not even bother to go online because the system is lagged to hell by both the presence of their titans in the system and the sheer numbers of coalition ships in that system. Another possible factor is FC error. In times of desperation, an FC may commit a BoB fleet without having a clear objective, and as a result, the BoB fleet gets massacred. Although BoB FCs are experienced and there is not question about that, it does not necessarily mean that they cannot make any mistakes at all.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:18:00 - [8] u kno... maybe Molle will pull a Seleene. things ain't working, gtg real life callin! more srsly, I do think it'll be some fleet gets demolished. ********** Bruceswarm paintrain rollin in
Admentus Cor'vion Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:19:00 - [9] Originally by: WraithFire There will be alot of factors that can be considered in order for BoB to failure cascade. One scenario will be when Molle steps down as the head honcho of BoB, but he is a proud man. If that is to happen, Goons will be singing, "Beginning of the End." Another is when majority of BoB pilots does not even bother to go online because the system is lagged to hell by both the presence of their titans in the system and the sheer numbers of coalition ships in that system. Another possible factor is FC error. In times of desperation, an FC may commit a BoB fleet without having a clear objective, and as a result, the BoB fleet gets massacred. Although BoB FCs are experienced and there is not question about that, it does not necessarily mean that they cannot make any mistakes at all. This is a very reasonable scenario; as I've done this and I'm sure quite a few coalition and GBC FC's have done this. Once you get someone whose eye isn't always on the ball; it's possible to have them screw up like that.
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Originally by: WraithFire There will be alot of factors that can be considered in order for BoB to failure cascade. One scenario will be when Molle steps down as the head honcho of BoB, but he is a proud man. If that is to happen, Goons will be singing, "Beginning of the End." Another is when majority of BoB pilots does not even bother to go online because the system is lagged to hell by both the presence of their titans in the system and the sheer numbers of coalition ships in that system. Another possible factor is FC error. In times of desperation, an FC may commit a BoB fleet without having a clear objective, and as a result, the BoB fleet gets massacred. Although BoB FCs are experienced and there is not question about that, it does not necessarily mean that they cannot make any mistakes at all. This is a very reasonable scenario; as I've done this and I'm sure quite a few coalition and GBC FC's have done this. Once you get someone whose eye isn't always on the ball; it's possible to have them screw up like that. even if ur on the ball u dunno if lag will swing your way. i mean, we always lagsploit so of course its our fault though. ********** Bruceswarm paintrain rollin in
Bin Matar Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:41:00 - [11] Originally by: BobTheMechanic So whats gonna make Bob failure cascade. A bob titan going down? A fetus titan going boom? all i know is, I want my falcon on a titan km if it goes down. my friend had a 13lb 2 oz baby last year. That was a titanic fetus. as to your post who knows , my money would go on there being a pretty good grindfest till whatever outcome. Too many people on both sides got to much invested for anything else
BobTheMechanic Caldari Sundering Pain	Posted - 2008.02.06 06:45:00 - [12] Originally by: Bin Matar Originally by: BobTheMechanic So whats gonna make Bob failure cascade. A bob titan going down? A fetus titan going boom? all i know is, I want my falcon on a titan km if it goes down. my friend had a 13lb 2 oz baby last year. That was a titanic fetus. as to your post who knows , my money would go on there being a pretty good grindfest till whatever outcome. Too many people on both sides got to much invested for anything else wow, 13 lb. ********** Bruceswarm paintrain rollin in
Volir Deep Space HVAC	Posted - 2008.02.06 07:04:00 - [13] The first possibility just happened. Goonswarm took a Delve station. This, of course, does not lead to a failure cascade 100%, but it does cause BoB members to rethink their position; they are not omnipotence itself, which is what a lot of people signed up for. Most of their membership is not the BoB of 2006, but made up of recent Pet alliance members. BoB members joined to be apart of an elite pvp force that does not lose. They could rationalize away most of their space (ie they didn't want it), but delve is theirs. They cannot rationalize losing that. Look at their most recent propaganda video: Relentless . Notice the date: February 3rd. BoB is not elite, they are in fact pretty bad at pvp as they are made up of substandard members now. This is not the BoB blob that destroyed ASCN. Those members have mostly left and to cover that up BoB have allowed anyone with a pulse into their alliance (notice CORM, RISE, EO memebers), along with many, many spies (evidence: 2 RA DDs of BoB staging POS's). What's hilarious is that these newest BoB members do not have the respect for the leadership that the old BoB members have. They'll actively question the leadership, preform poorly in fleets, and whine when things go poorly for them. BoB is not failure cascading yet, but they are reeling and on their heels.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.06 07:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Volir The first possibility just happened. Goonswarm took a Delve station. This, of course, does not lead to a failure cascade 100%, but it does cause BoB members to rethink their position; they are not omnipotence itself, which is what a lot of people signed up for. Most of their membership is not the BoB of 2006, but made up of recent Pet alliance members. BoB members joined to be apart of an elite pvp force that does not lose. They could rationalize away most of their space (ie they didn't want it), but delve is theirs. They cannot rationalize losing that. Look at their most recent propaganda video: Relentless . Notice the date: February 3rd. BoB is not elite, they are in fact pretty bad at pvp as they are made up of substandard members now. This is not the BoB blob that destroyed ASCN. Those members have mostly left and to cover that up BoB have allowed anyone with a pulse into their alliance (notice CORM, RISE, EO memebers), along with many, many spies (evidence: 2 RA DDs of BoB staging POS's). What's hilarious is that these newest BoB members do not have the respect for the leadership that the old BoB members have. They'll actively question the leadership, preform poorly in fleets, and whine when things go poorly for them. BoB is not failure cascading yet, but they are reeling and on their heels. I thought you fix heating, ventilation and air conditioning problems.... Who would think there is so much talent in you to accurately asses what is going on with BOB. Now go back, shoot BOB POS and stfu. Take BobTheMechanic and BobFromMarketing with you, the three of you make a great team.
Rathkan Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.06 07:55:00 - [15] Originally by: Zorland Originally by: Volir ... I thought you fix heating, ventilation and air conditioning problems.... Who would think there is so much talent in you to accurately asses what is going on with BOB. Now go back, shoot BOB POS and stfu. Take BobTheMechanic and BobFromMarketing with you, the three of you make a great team. huh, wut? You think Volir is Sir Molle?
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 08:07:00 - [16] bob 2.0 is actually just really terrible at this game true story
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.06 08:18:00 - [17] Edited by: Zorland on 06/02/2008 08:19:15 Originally by: Rathkan Originally by: Zorland Originally by: Volir ... I thought you fix heating, ventilation and air conditioning problems.... Who would think there is so much talent in you to accurately asses what is going on with BOB. Now go back, shoot BOB POS and stfu. Take BobTheMechanic and BobFromMarketing with you, the three of you make a great team. huh, wut? You think Volir is Sir Molle? He is Goon alt trying to be funny and HVAC info is in his BIO.
Gods Coldblood Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.06 08:24:00 - [18] If BOB lose delve, i think it will come down too how much they are griefed after they lose territory.. If they are left alone to lick their wounds i can expect a mighty comeback .. BOB is way to old to fall like most alliances today My video Way of the Warrior : Anxiety
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.02.06 08:56:00 - [19] Once it has come sofar I wonder if BoB will ask for a ceasefire to get thier stuff out (or have they moved the majority of thier stuff already), if they do will the coalition honour it and will BoB still be hunted in the new space that they will move to? Those are the questions in my head.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.02.06 09:06:00 - [20] Originally by: WraithFire Edited by: WraithFire on 06/02/2008 07:44:01 Another is when majority of BoB pilots does not even bother to go online because the system is lagged to hell by both the presence of their titans in the system and the sheer numbers of coalition ships in that system. BoB LOVE lag, they do whatever they can to produce it, the more lag, the better their chances. What would have happened in the capital fight the other day with no lag? Most BS losses being taken are due to the amazing 5 minute lag when trying to warp out during large battles. Fighter lag is what bob is relying on since titans were nerfed. If you dont believe it then you havent fought them.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.06 09:34:00 - [21] Originally by: umop 3pisdn Originally by: WraithFire Edited by: WraithFire on 06/02/2008 07:44:01 Another is when majority of BoB pilots does not even bother to go online because the system is lagged to hell by both the presence of their titans in the system and the sheer numbers of coalition ships in that system. BoB LOVE lag, they do whatever they can to produce it, the more lag, the better their chances. What would have happened in the capital fight the other day with no lag? Most BS losses being taken are due to the amazing 5 minute lag when trying to warp out during large battles. Fighter lag is what bob is relying on since titans were nerfed. If you dont believe it then you havent fought them. Yes, that's why they NAPed 5000 Goons and adpoted them giving them access to 0.0 stations and belts, so they can use them to generate lag Go away Russian dude, you are just too funny.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.02.06 09:43:00 - [22] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 06/02/2008 09:48:03 The tipping point is when we find out that the whole thing with Tortuga/Superfriends/whatever was really just an act. When the Coalition seems poised to advance further into Delve the Tortugans will backstab them something fierce. This will be to everyone's surprise except BoB, who of course had planned things that way all along tbh. The coalition loses all their morale and withdraws back to Catch and beyond, giving BoB & Co. the breathing space they need to fully rearm and launch a massive counterattack at some point in the near future. Either that or the Coalition stomps Delve, but then BoB, in a surprise move, doesn't put up a fight and instead swarms Fountain, ousting any and all enemies there. Since Fountain is easier to defend than Delve, what with it having only five ways in and out (three of which are either into NPC nullsec or Empire), it isn't completely beyond strategic sense. Farfetched ideas in this post
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.02.06 09:45:00 - [23] poasting in today "OMG bob are dead thread" we've lost ships before, we've lost regions before.. Do you really either will cause any great change? _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 09:47:00 - [24] Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 06/02/2008 09:47:26 Originally by: thoth foc poasting in today "OMG bob are dead thread" we've lost ships before, we've lost regions before.. Do you really either will cause any great change? Yes, we do. On an unrelated note, this thread sucks. -clp
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.02.06 10:05:00 - [25] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 06/02/2008 09:47:26 Originally by: thoth foc poasting in today "OMG bob are dead thread" we've lost ships before, we've lost regions before.. Do you really either will cause any great change? Yes, we do. On an unrelated note, this thread sucks. LOL.. gl with that then.. On a related note to your unrelated note, most of your propaganda threads suck.. but they keep me entertained in work, so please continue _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.02.06 10:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Zorland Originally by: umop 3pisdn Originally by: WraithFire Edited by: WraithFire on 06/02/2008 07:44:01 Another is when majority of BoB pilots does not even bother to go online because the system is lagged to hell by both the presence of their titans in the system and the sheer numbers of coalition ships in that system. BoB LOVE lag, they do whatever they can to produce it, the more lag, the better their chances. What would have happened in the capital fight the other day with no lag? Most BS losses being taken are due to the amazing 5 minute lag when trying to warp out during large battles. Fighter lag is what bob is relying on since titans were nerfed. If you dont believe it then you havent fought them. Yes, that's why they NAPed 5000 Goons and adpoted them giving them access to 0.0 stations and belts, so they can use them to generate lag Go away Russian dude, you are just too funny. I agree with the Russian dude tbh, the new craze seems to be getting a large gang of carriers together spider tanking each other and then realeasing all thier drones/fighters. This causes massive lag and as soon as someone targets and engages the carrier (with extreme module lag) the fighters start agressing and as we all know npcs dont suffer from lag. Very clever tactic I must admit but also almost as lame as remote DD's.
steveid SkyMarshal Logistics	Posted - 2008.02.06 10:46:00 - [27] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 06/02/2008 09:48:03 The tipping point is when we find out that the whole thing with Tortuga/Superfriends/whatever was really just an act. When the Coalition seems poised to advance further into Delve the Tortugans will backstab them something fierce. This will be to everyone's surprise except BoB, who of course had planned things that way all along tbh. The coalition loses all their morale and withdraws back to Catch and beyond, giving BoB & Co. the breathing space they need to fully rearm and launch a massive counterattack at some point in the near future. Farfetched ideas in this post I am waiting for this. there will be a bait titan followed by a massive MC hotdrop and then we will wait to see the coalition titans on the field. when this happens i can definately see a side switching and a crushing capital victory, much like the grinder that destroyed D2's capital fleet and will to fight.
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.06 11:01:00 - [28] This is a horrible thread.
maihem TBC VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.06 11:09:00 - [29] as much as i would love to see them failure cascade, i think that if they were susceptible to it they would already have done it. i think that they will fight till they have no more POS left to fight from then suicide the cap fleet in one last big bang, and then go do missions in empire. I dont jog, it makes the ice cubes jump right out of my glass.
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.02.06 12:14:00 - [30] Originally by: Fendragun Thats why i dont really fc any more :P your still a better FC than scout tbh.. "Thol: we need the other side of this gate scouted" "stan: I'll do it!" "Thol: what ship are you in?" "stan: Apoc" _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar

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