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White Ronin
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Posted - 2008.02.07 08:52:00 -
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Edited by: White Ronin on 07/02/2008 08:52:17
I know it is broken.
But exactly how does our current bounty system work.
Thx.
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Tuberider
Caldari
Pothouse Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.07 11:13:00 -
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How is it broken ? please explain
someone places bounty on you,
if you lose your pod,the highest damage dealer on the pod gets bounty 
At least thats how its always worked for me, unless i've missed some hiden problem 
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Akkrillo
Dread Lords
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Posted - 2008.02.07 11:15:00 -
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 Originally by: White Ronin
Edited by: White Ronin on 07/02/2008 08:52:17
I know it is broken.
But exactly how does our current bounty system work.
Thx.
somone does somthing to make you angry. you place a bounty on that person. he then uses an alt to pod himself and cashes in on your isk.
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Tuberider
Caldari
Pothouse Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.07 11:39:00 -
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i fail too see a problem
when u put a bounty on someone your giving away isky anyways to an unknown.
as most peeps like to keep their bounty, only the 'desperate' would claim it themselves.
Eve is full of desperate peeps though 
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Arelius Sarum
Amarr
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.07 11:51:00 -
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When I was a noob 2 weeks into the game, I lost my Omen to a ganker in low sec. I thought my death would somehow be avenged, but turns out I was only giving his isk.
In other words, it's utterly useless unless you want to make yourself look all piraty with big bounties.
Per Ardua ad Astra - Through Adversity, to the Stars
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Johan Lazarr
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: Johan Lazarr on 07/02/2008 12:01:27
well, its actually not really in any sense broken, you pay isk to increase chances of the person you putting the bounty on getting podded. now if he pods himself with alt/friend, your will has been done. people even sometimes put bounties on themselves, just for showoff or whatever, so its really unlikely one will collect his own bounty unless its a noob who can really use the isk, in that case, if a noob made you put a bounty on him, he actually deserves the reward
about how it exactly works, you can read up in the ingame help system wich is quite well done
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White Ronin
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Posted - 2008.02.07 15:56:00 -
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so you get the bounty for podding or do you have to retrieve the body and return it somewhere?
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smackmybooty
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Posted - 2008.02.07 15:58:00 -
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just put a bounty of 5k. let people know how much pirates are worth 
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Naridos
Caldari
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Akkrillo
Originally by: White Ronin
Edited by: White Ronin on 07/02/2008 08:52:17
I know it is broken.
But exactly how does our current bounty system work.
Thx.
somone does somthing to make you angry. you place a bounty on that person. he then uses an alt to pod himself and cashes in on your isk.
Unless you have nice implants on ur character and the bounty is not enough to either make a profit or enough to cover the replacements NOOB!
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Pandas are the PWN of Eve. Pandas!
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Durzel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Johan Lazarr
Edited by: Johan Lazarr on 07/02/2008 12:01:27
well, its actually not really in any sense broken, you pay isk to increase chances of the person you putting the bounty on getting podded. now if he pods himself with alt/friend, your will has been done. people even sometimes put bounties on themselves, just for showoff or whatever, so its really unlikely one will collect his own bounty unless its a noob who can really use the isk, in that case, if a noob made you put a bounty on him, he actually deserves the reward
about how it exactly works, you can read up in the ingame help system wich is quite well done
The problem is though if the bounty is sufficiently high enough then they can just get themselves podded and split/keep the bounty themselves.
It's not as if people with bounties are attackable in high-sec either.
From what I can gather with the exception of considerably high bounties (i.e. that might make it worth suiciding on someone over) it's just for e-peen. If I'm wrong please tell me so :)
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Podruski
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:02:00 -
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Depends on who it is... good pirates can roll with 1b worth of implants just cause they are kinda immune in low sec. So if they have 1b worth of implants and a 500m bounty, it kinda sucks cause everyone wants to kill you, but you will lose 500m if you try and collect.. Basically.. dont bounty people, cause unless you put a large amount on him and he has implants, then nobody really cares about it.
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Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2008.02.07 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Naridos
Originally by: Akkrillo
Originally by: White Ronin
Edited by: White Ronin on 07/02/2008 08:52:17
I know it is broken.
But exactly how does our current bounty system work.
Thx.
somone does somthing to make you angry. you place a bounty on that person. he then uses an alt to pod himself and cashes in on your isk.
Unless you have nice implants on ur character and the bounty is not enough to either make a profit or enough to cover the replacements NOOB!
Jump Clones
Originally by: Admiral Love
Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty. |
Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2008.02.07 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: smackmybooty
just put a bounty of 5k. let people know how much pirates are worth
this is very evil btw. since people will think the guy put that bounty on himself just to get the skull on his ship (as many wannabees do:)
Originally by: Admiral Love
Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty. |
Goyda
Veni Vidi Vici.
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.02.07 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Goyda on 07/02/2008 18:27:37
My idea for making bounties worthwhile in EvE ? Allow someone to go to a bounty office and buy a contract for killing this person. Would make this person suddenly at war but the person who has the bounty will have no idea.
So for some isk you can go to war with an idividual player, you and ONLY you have this war dec. and you can now treat this player who has the bounty like a war target.
After a few days it expires. Also you can't do it to a person who you have placed a bounty on.
just my idea good or bad
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Nacho Daddy
Caldari
Ministry of Funny Walks
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Posted - 2008.02.07 18:39:00 -
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Additionally you could require a certain security rating in order to collect bounties. An alt or pirate buddy isn't going to have a decent enough rating to collect. Also make it impossible for a character on the same account to collect bounties on other characters on that account. Yes I realize people have more than one account, but that would probably create too much overhead to prevent accounts using the same IP or MAC to collect bounties on another account using the same IP or MAC Address. Another might be account information, but probably the same issue not to mention with GTCs people can just enter false info.
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2008.02.07 19:18:00 -
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Well, not that I'm a pirate but:
a) My clone costs a lot themselves.
b) my very cheapest clone has over 100mil of implants in it.
Therefore I won't be podding myself with an alt unless someone goes crazy on my bounty.
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Goyda
Veni Vidi Vici.
Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.02.07 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nacho Daddy
Additionally you could require a certain security rating in order to collect bounties. An alt or pirate buddy isn't going to have a decent enough rating to collect. Also make it impossible for a character on the same account to collect bounties on other characters on that account. Yes I realize people have more than one account, but that would probably create too much overhead to prevent accounts using the same IP or MAC to collect bounties on another account using the same IP or MAC Address. Another might be account information, but probably the same issue not to mention with GTCs people can just enter false info.
Who cares if you collect your own bounty ? Why does everyone overthink everything. This is a simple concept, and yes people will try to cheat the system, they always do. But trying to stop someone from collecting the bounty could be as simple as you have to turn a corpse into a bounty office to collect (like bringing the heads to the king) and you can't turn in your own corpse. And if you use another account why worry about it.
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Ariel Dawn
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:01:00 -
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Bounty system doesn't work precisely because there is no way to prevent the pirate or their friends from podding them for the ISK.
I don't pod myself because I have no use for the ISK and it attracts random players to come and try and kill you; many of which aren't particularly bright. Haven't put any ISK on myself, and now just continuing to see how high I can get it before succumbing to the urge to collect free ISK.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Podruski
Depends on who it is... good pirates can roll with 1b worth of implants just cause they are kinda immune in low sec. So if they have 1b worth of implants and a 500m bounty, it kinda sucks cause everyone wants to kill you, but you will lose 500m if you try and collect.. Basically.. dont bounty people, cause unless you put a large amount on him and he has implants, then nobody really cares about it.
Then you jump clone and pod that one. The next day, jump back into your implants.
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Cygnus Scott
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.07 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Goyda
Who cares if you collect your own bounty ? Why does everyone overthink everything. This is a simple concept, and yes people will try to cheat the system, they always do. But trying to stop someone from collecting the bounty could be as simple as you have to turn a corpse into a bounty office to collect (like bringing the heads to the king) and you can't turn in your own corpse. And if you use another account why worry about it.
Pirates collecting their own bounties defeats the purpose and spirit of the system, its why its broke isn't it?
The idea is for someone (or multiple someones) who have been wronged by an individual yet don't have the ability retaliate themselves to offer ISK to those who may have the ability to collect vengeance for them. Having people hunt you for a bounty is supposed to be an inconvenience and the loss of implants part of the punishment.
With Jump clones however a player with a high bounty can jump into a clone with cheap or no implants and pod themselves with an alt or have a friend or corp mate do it. The player with the bounty then gets not only the kill or whatever thing they did to earn the bounty in the first place from the player but the ISK they put up for the bounty as well, essentially robbing them twice. The cost of the clones becomes an issue at some point but if the bounty is high enough it doesn't really matter.
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