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Brujo Loco Amarr Brujeria Teologica	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:40:00 - [1] This Interesting for those people obsessed with them Cheers! Viva VENEZUELA!!! Archipelago Theory
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:49:00 - [2] Well goddamnit, what the hell kind of carbonated beverage am I allowed to drink now?! ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2
Maltitol Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:54:00 - [3] this brings back the old argument I used to have with fat people in line at McDonaldsà you order a big mac with large fries and order a diet pepsi.. are you stupid or something? rofl Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well boohoo
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.02.11 16:56:00 - [4] Diet sodas taste horribly anyway (yes, even those hyped to be "as tasty as non-diet"). Granted, as an European, you drink almost exclusively sugar-enriched sodas (from sugar beets, as opposed to that HFCS swill Americans use as sweetener), so the taste difference is huge. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Kappas. Galaxy Punks Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:02:00 - [5] Edited by: Kappas. on 11/02/2008 17:02:28 I dunno, I prefer diet coke over coke, hate the aftertaste of normal coke. Edit: That response works for the two people above me __________________
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Kappas. I dunno, I prefer diet coke over coke, hate the aftertaste of normal coke. You live in the USA, don't you ? 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:22:00 - [7] Originally by: Akita T ... as an European, you drink almost exclusively sugar-enriched sodas (from sugar beets, as opposed to that HFCS swill Americans use as sweetener), so the taste difference is huge. Now that was a mouth watering post... I want a european soda now! Sugar! Sugar!!
The Crushah Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:30:00 - [8] Its important to note that this study was done using saccharin. The study would need to be repeated using Aspartame and sucralose to gain further support of this theory.
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:44:00 - [9] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/02/2008 17:48:15 aspartame and many of the other popular sugar replacements are BAD for you, i repeat BAD.. (there are some good alternatives though, but they're hardly in use unfortunately) it messes with your concentration and promots ADHD. pilots are not even allowed to drink soft drinks before flying because of this. and yes, it increases your weight too. also aspartame was lobbied through congress in the US by none other than mr. "nice guy" rumsfeldt who was on the board of a company who benefitted immensely from sugar replacements in soft drinks and the likes.. since then it has reached other food groups aswell as a sugar replacement/artificial sweetener. stay as far away from it as you can. if you see a soft drink called "diet" or "zero" walk away. try an experiment 1 weekend if you don't believe me, and notice your reduced performance or perhaps even inability to perform complex tasks for many hours after consuption. it also sets in motion if you drink a lot of it, a chemical reaction that can destroy your internal organs. sugar replacements are big money, so ethics are out the window for crooks like rumsfeldt.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:48:00 - [10] Originally by: Maltitol this brings back the old argument I used to have with fat people in line at McDonaldsà you order a big mac with large fries and order a diet pepsi.. are you stupid or something? rofl Dumbass. Are you telling me you can't see the logic of, having ordered 600 calories worth of burger and fries, NOT wanting to consume ANOTHER 200 calories from the drink, when theres a nearly identical drink worth 0 calories right next to it? I mean hell, its not complicated logic. If you're blowing 50% your day's calorie rations on a single meal, you might as well try not to make it a round 75% just because you think its stupid to buy a low cal drink... Besides, I know some people (my mum, for one) who claim they actually prefer the taste of diet coke over regular coke. I don't get it really, but if someone's clearly buying food just because they like the taste, they're likely to buy their favourite drink, too... ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Angela Toren Amarr Toren Shipyards	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:50:00 - [11] I've heard the non sugar carbonated drinks (Coke Zero, Pepsi Max etc) have ingredients that can give you cancer. Now i hear diet carbonated drinks can make you gain weight, and of course regular carbonated drinks can make you gain a lot of weight. Fruit juice gives you the runs. Cordials have too much concentrated sugar. Beer is your livers worst enemy. Sigh, lets all just drink water and be sad and misrable. BEER.
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:53:00 - [12] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/02/2008 17:56:50 Originally by: Patch86 I know some people (my mum, for one) who claim they actually prefer the taste of diet coke over regular coke. I don't get it really, but if someone's clearly buying food just because they like the taste, they're likely to buy their favourite drink, too... tell your mom to stop drinking it asap. the words sweet poison comes to mind. personally i don't like the taste of it, but the taste isn't what this is about anyways. it raises risk of organ failure and cancer too. so the question is, do you want to test it out yourself and notice the effect, or do you want to downplay it and wait till the "official report" comes with payed off 3rd parties till the stench of it reaches so far up in heaven, that it finally becomes clear and it's thoroughly proven to be hazardous to your health? your choice. might affect your reproductive systems too (not virility or sterility, but genetic deformities, granted the risks of these are very low but do you really want to take the chance and make your children pick up the tab?). people have allready died from it. just stay with beverages with normal sugar in them, or just stay away from them period.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:57:00 - [13] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/02/2008 17:54:06 Originally by: Patch86 I know some people (my mum, for one) who claim they actually prefer the taste of diet coke over regular coke. I don't get it really, but if someone's clearly buying food just because they like the taste, they're likely to buy their favourite drink, too... tell your mom to stop drinking it asap. the words sweet poison comes to mind. personally i don't like the taste of it, but the taste isn't what this is about anyways. it raises risk of organ failure and cancer too. so the question is, do you want to test it out yourself and notice the effect, or do you want to downplay it and wait till the "official report" comes with payed off 3rd parties till the stench of it reaches so far up in heaven, that it finally becomes clear and it's thoroughly proven to be hazardous to your health? your choice. might affect your reproductive systems too. people have allready died from it. TBH, I haven't seen her touch the stuff in months. I don't even drink coke these days (diet or otherwise)- much prefer lemonade-style fizzy drinks. 7up is much win. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
7shining7one7 Quafe Paladins	Posted - 2008.02.11 17:58:00 - [14] Originally by: Patch86 TBH, I haven't seen her touch the stuff in months. I don't even drink coke these days (diet or otherwise)- much prefer lemonade-style fizzy drinks. 7up is much win. ok, that's good.
The Crushah Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.02.11 18:16:00 - [15] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/02/2008 17:48:15 aspartame and many of the other popular sugar replacements are BAD for you, i repeat BAD.. (there are some good alternatives though, but they're hardly in use unfortunately) it messes with your concentration and promots ADHD. pilots are not even allowed to drink soft drinks before flying because of this. and yes, it increases your weight too. also aspartame was lobbied through congress in the US by none other than mr. "nice guy" rumsfeldt who was on the board of a company who benefitted immensely from sugar replacements in soft drinks and the likes.. since then it has reached other food groups aswell as a sugar replacement/artificial sweetener. stay as far away from it as you can. if you see a soft drink called "diet" or "zero" walk away. try an experiment 1 weekend if you don't believe me, and notice your reduced performance or perhaps even inability to perform complex tasks for many hours after consuption. it also sets in motion if you drink a lot of it, a chemical reaction that can destroy your internal organs. sugar replacements are big money, so ethics are out the window for crooks like rumsfeldt. This is mostly FUD. Aspartame has never been connected with cancer or neurological problems. Allow me to quote an abstract from a recent published review on aspartame: Crit Rev Toxicol. 2007;37(8):629-727 "Acute, subacute and chronic toxicity studies with aspartame, and its decomposition products, conducted in mice, rats, hamsters and dogs have consistently found no adverse effect of aspartame with doses up to at least 4000 mg/kg bw/day. Critical review of all carcinogenicity studies conducted on aspartame found no credible evidence that aspartame is carcinogenic. The data from the extensive investigations into the possibility of neurotoxic effects of aspartame, in general, do not support the hypothesis that aspartame in the human diet will affect nervous system function, learning or behavior. Epidemiological studies on aspartame include several case-control studies and one well-conducted prospective epidemiological study with a large cohort, in which the consumption of aspartame was measured. The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive sweetener."
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2008.02.11 18:20:00 - [16] I prefer diet coke to coke, but ever since I moved out of my parents' house 10 years ago I've been too cheap to drink anything but water :D
omfgkarlmarx Gallente	Posted - 2008.02.11 18:22:00 - [17] The only evidence I've found supporting the cancer/lupus/whatever-else theory has been purely anecdotal. In fact, the Mario Negri Research Institute found a "lack of association between saccharin, aspartame and other sweeteners and the risk of several common neoplasms". The National Cancer Institute also found similar results in a study that involved 340,045 men and 226,945 women. Switching gears, did anyone else find that news article to be really, really silly? If you drink diet soda and eat more, you will gain weight! I think I've got an idea for a new study. Let's test the effects of drinking water and eating more. I'm willing to bet that the study find that drinking water will increase your weight.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.11 18:26:00 - [18] Originally by: omfgkarlmarx The only evidence I've found supporting the cancer/lupus/whatever-else theory has been purely anecdotal. In fact, the Mario Negri Research Institute found a "lack of association between saccharin, aspartame and other sweeteners and the risk of several common neoplasms". The National Cancer Institute also found similar results in a study that involved 340,045 men and 226,945 women. Switching gears, did anyone else find that news article to be really, really silly? If you drink diet soda and eat more, you will gain weight! I think I've got an idea for a new study. Let's test the effects of drinking water and eating more. I'm willing to bet that the study find that drinking water will increase your weight. I think what they were getting as is that when your body registers sweet tastes, it ramps up your metabolism in anticipation to burn the carbs/sugars/whatever that (in a natural food) sweet food would contain. When it doesn't get any, your body's metabolism is already ramped up so it wants more stuff to eat. ---------------- Tarminic - 32 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.3 (NEW VERSION!)
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.02.11 18:48:00 - [19] Originally by: Angela Toren I've heard the non sugar carbonated drinks (Coke Zero, Pepsi Max etc) have ingredients that can give you cancer. Now i hear diet carbonated drinks can make you gain weight, and of course regular carbonated drinks can make you gain a lot of weight. Fruit juice gives you the runs. Cordials have too much concentrated sugar. Beer is your livers worst enemy. Sigh, lets all just drink water and be sad and misrable. Well... Diet sodas should be out because of the yucky taste. american sodas should be out because of corn syrup instead of sugar making them almost as bad tasting as diet sodas. Non-US sodas should be out because they make you fat for sure. So, basically, all sodas and syrups are out. Beer might be the liver's worst enemy, but it's actually quite good for the kidneys Of course, not in excess, but people with various kidney problems are actually encouraged to drink beer, because it stimulates their function. Although, beer ain't that great for hydratation, as beer is a diuretic (more as most other alcohoolic beverages). Fruit juice giving you the runs ? Any specific ones ? Pick a juice of a different fruit then ! I have trouble believing you get that effect from just about any juices, there must be something wrong with you. How about milk then ? Although I first found that hard to believe, I hear in the USA there's a significant number of "lactose intolerant" individuals... and for that matter, a disproportionate number of people allergic to several other foods. Personally, I have not yet heard of any of my aquaintances having any severe food allergies, and the limited number that does have some issue with some foods, it's only if they ingest a sizeable portion of that specific food type (like, say, half a dozen eggs, or a couple of chocolate tablets, something like that), and even then it's just mild nausea or some mild skin rash later on. Personally, there's days when I skip water altogether and just replace it with milk (yes, there have been days when I was drinking 2 liters of milk or more, and it's not that uncommon either). And, last but not least, seriously, what's wrong with "flat water" ? Or well, whatever you guys call plain old water there. I find that an increasing number of friends end up ordering water instead of carbonated water, any soda or some alcohool to go with their food. Myself, I prefer very lightly carbonated water (and preferably naturally carbonated, not with added CO2)... easy to obtain by simply shaking down the bottle multiple times before actually drinking it... the fact that Romania has quite a few carbonated water springs (and a lot more "biologically pure" water springs too) makes it extremely easy to get, and increasingly popular to drink over here. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.02.11 19:14:00 - [20] Originally by: Tarminic Well goddamnit, what the hell kind of carbonated beverage am I allowed to drink now?! Lime cordial and fizzy water is my drink of choice. 10 calories a pint or something like that.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Akita T How about milk then ? Although I first found that hard to believe, I hear in the USA there's a significant number of "lactose intolerant" individuals... and for that matter, a disproportionate number of people allergic to several other foods. Personally, I have not yet heard of any of my aquaintances having any severe food allergies, and the limited number that does have some issue with some foods, it's only if they ingest a sizeable portion of that specific food type (like, say, half a dozen eggs, or a couple of chocolate tablets, something like that), and even then it's just mild nausea or some mild skin rash later on. Personally, there's days when I skip water altogether and just replace it with milk (yes, there have been days when I was drinking 2 liters of milk or more, and it's not that uncommon either). I know someone who is lactose intolerant. She is most gutted because it means she can't eat chocolate, except for the special (and expensive) "milk free" chocolates. I also know someone with a bad prawn allegy (gives her something that resembles a severe asthma attack) and someone with an EXTREMELY bad sesame allegy. And I mean extremely bad. I once saw her eat some Bombay Mix, and she literally put one piece in her mouth before her lips swelled up like they'd been stung by wasps- sure enough, it was made with sesame oil. Shes been fatally-ill in hospital 3 times since I've known her, because shes such an air head she can't seem to grasp "checking the ingredients" before eating things. I guess theres a Darwin Award in it for her, in the long run... ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:18:00 - [22] You mean American scientists have found an excuse to make it not their fault that they're fat? ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:27:00 - [23] Edited by: Akita T on 11/02/2008 20:28:01 Originally by: Patch86 I guess theres a Darwin Award in it for her, in the long run. You just made me curious, so I checked "t3h intarwebs" for some data... Apparently "food allergy is an immunologic response to a food protein. It is estimated that up to 12 million Americans have food allergies of one type or another, and the prevalence is apparently rising.". One out of 25 people ?!? Holy bleep. That's what you get for messing with natural selection with "modern medicine", and having an excessively high compulsion for "microbiologically clean" environments. A rather sadistic and cynical answer, but it's nevertheless (apparently) a fact. So, it's more like, reverse Darwin awards for most allergics 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:33:00 - [24] Originally by: Akita T That's what you get for messing with natural selection with "modern medicine", and having an excessively high compulsion for "microbiologically clean" environments. A rather sadistic and cynical answer, but it's nevertheless (apparently) a fact. So, it's more like, reverse Darwin awards for most allergics I doubt it has much to do with modern medicine, it's likely that genes like that were relatively rare until about ten thousand years ago (since they'd eat the only available food and subsequently kick the bucket). Once people started settling and had access to a variety of food sources, this gene no longer killed people enough to keep it from being passed on. I do know that allergies can appear and disappear...I used to be alergic to Milk and tomato sauce when I was a kid and I can have both now without problems. ---------------- Tarminic - 32 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.3 (NEW VERSION!)
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:39:00 - [25] ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:40:00 - [26] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 11/02/2008 20:41:28 Originally by: Maltitol this brings back the old argument I used to have with fat people in line at McDonaldsà you order a big mac with large fries and order a diet pepsi.. are you stupid or something? rofl What logic are you using there? Just because they cut out one sugarbomb they're not allowed to have the other? You keep doing what you're told. I didn't get an audio on that thing but let me guess, people who drink diet sodas overeat still as the sweetener heightens their appetatite just the same as regular sugar? Well it's not drink this and get out of fat free cards handed out, you still have to use your brain. As for the cancer part, we don't have it in our bloodline, I'll let you know if I'll be the first. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:43:00 - [27] Personally, I think the video is nothing but a bunch of stupid FUD, as is the post here about all these sweeteners causing cancer. Yeah, Aspartame in large quantities MAY cause you issues, but ANYTHING in large enough quantities will kill you, even WATER. Personally, I stopped drinking ANYTHING carbonated. I was having bad acid-reflux and upset stomach. My doctor had me tested and said I was developing an ulcer. It turns out that it was due to all the carbonated beverages I was drinking. (several 20oz bottles a day) I haven't touched a carbonated beverage since then, and I have never felt better. I almost never have acid-reflux, and my stomach problems have generally disappeared. Once I am able to lose some more weight and get into better shape, I'm sure I'll be even better. So yes, you shouldn't drink carbonated beverages. But not because they will give you cancer. Don't drink them because they are really bad for your stomach, and the non-diet ones will help make you fat.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2008.02.12 01:41:00 - [28] Originally by: The Crushah Its important to note that this study was done using saccharin. The study would need to be repeated using Aspartame and sucralose to gain further support of this theory. Yeah, 5 bucks says that study will be even worse. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Keorythe Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.02.12 02:10:00 - [29] Wait, let me get this straight. Studies show that diet sodas MIGHT cause weight gain. They THINK that it affects their metabolism. So you just did a study without releasing the results or showing what variables might have invalidated the results and put it on air as an attempt at fact? What were these peoples diets? Did they exercise at all? Ages? Minor details like CLICKY <--explains why studies suck if you aren't smart enough to understand how tests results aren't always valid without understanding the variables involved. examples of BS studies: Yes your bady is dumb
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2008.02.12 02:35:00 - [30] Originally by: Keorythe Wait, let me get this straight. Studies show that diet sodas MIGHT cause weight gain. They THINK that it affects their metabolism. So you just did a study without releasing the results or showing what variables might have invalidated the results and put it on air as an attempt at fact? What were these peoples diets? Did they exercise at all? Ages? Minor details like CLICKY <--explains why studies suck if you aren't smart enough to understand how tests results aren't always valid without understanding the variables involved. examples of BS studies: Yes your bady is dumb The baby one is awesome!!! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Cyne Spurr MacroIntel	Posted - 2008.02.12 03:05:00 - [31] Fruit juice only gives the "runs" if its abused and drunk in large ammounts, or if you have an intolerance of it Orange juice is a big one for doing that. The main problems I have with diet drinks is that the tend to contain chemicals that have a diuretic or laxative effect. Which is a pity as I love Pepsi Max. A lot of food allergies that develop (as opposed to those you are born with) are possibly linked with a reaction to an earlier illness causing your immune system to become "over sensitive" or caused by over exposure to a product/chemical. Over exposure is a big problem as we tend to use a lot of chemicals(natural or manmade) in foods you would not expect to find them in (citric acid, sugars,fruit extracts,lactose and milk extracts, gelatine and meat extracts, refined enymes from shell fish and moluscs, insect extracts....Its all in foods. Makes it tricky for a lot of people with specific dietry needs.
Kyanzes Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.02.12 03:20:00 - [32] PLEASE. No matter what you eat it will eventually kill you. The very air you breathe is highly reactive. Also, every day you bathe in the light of a thermonuclear fire that's raging an AU away. OMFG, that has to be dangerous. And it is. Thing is, anything that you eat or drink in an excessive manner will harm you. --------------------------------------------- GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!
Spaced Skunk 9omH	Posted - 2008.02.12 03:55:00 - [33] I decided to eat/drink what I like when I was like 17, I prefer to enjoy my food. To Spawny, a great guy, a great laugh. Rest in peace buddy.
Kodiak31415 An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.02.12 06:16:00 - [34] "A recent study shows that consumption of too much water will limit a persons ability to breathe and may lead to a medical condition known as drowning. Drowning has been shown to cause blackouts, braindamage, and in rare cases, death." _______________________________ Pleese exucse any seplling erorr's in tihs psot
pwnedgato	Posted - 2008.02.12 06:25:00 - [35] Edited by: pwnedgato on 12/02/2008 06:25:42 Originally by: Kodiak31415 "A recent study shows that consumption of too much water will limit a persons ability to breathe and may lead to a medical condition known as drowning. Drowning has been shown to cause blackouts, braindamage, and in rare cases, death." Drowning is an urban legend. In fact I sleep at the bottom of my pool so the damn neighbor kids loud devil music doesn't disturb me. Originally by: Crumplecorn These is a forum for this.
Victus Incendia Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.02.12 10:28:00 - [36] Edited by: Victus Incendia on 12/02/2008 10:29:01 I never drink Fizzy drinks. There aren't any of them that particularly appeal to me. The only one I'm really partial to is Orangina(sp?). Even then, I only drink the ones in the glass bottle. Canned Orangina is not cool. Coffee's my vice. Originally by: Kodiak31415 "A recent study shows that consumption of too much water will limit a persons ability to breathe and may lead to a medical condition known as drowning. Drowning has been shown to cause blackouts, braindamage, and in rare cases, death." Facepalm.jpg
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.12 17:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Victus Incendia Edited by: Victus Incendia on 12/02/2008 10:29:01 I never drink Fizzy drinks. There aren't any of them that particularly appeal to me. The only one I'm really partial to is Orangina(sp?). Even then, I only drink the ones in the glass bottle. Canned Orangina is not cool. Coffee's my vice. Originally by: Kodiak31415 "A recent study shows that consumption of too much water will limit a persons ability to breathe and may lead to a medical condition known as drowning. Drowning has been shown to cause blackouts, braindamage, and in rare cases, death." Facepalm.jpg Orangina is genius. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Khanidee	Posted - 2008.02.12 19:15:00 - [38] The Bitter Truth About Artificial Sweetners
Karma Vortex Incorporated	Posted - 2008.02.12 19:29:00 - [39] one of the sweeteners in cola light has something like 90-something sideeffects... a few of which is loss of long- and short-term memory, hyperactivity, and brain damage... in fact it was classified as a neuro-toxin. had a friend who, if she drank just one can of coca cola light got a few of those, most notably short-term memory loss and major hyperactivity. think it was the one called Aspartam.
Kappas. Galaxy Punks Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.13 18:51:00 - [40] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Kappas. I dunno, I prefer diet coke over coke, hate the aftertaste of normal coke. You live in the USA, don't you ? Nope, UK. __________________
Keorythe Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:38:00 - [41] Originally by: Karma one of the sweeteners in cola light has something like 90-something sideeffects... a few of which is loss of long- and short-term memory, hyperactivity, and brain damage... in fact it was classified as a neuro-toxin. had a friend who, if she drank just one can of coca cola light got a few of those, most notably short-term memory loss and major hyperactivity. think it was the one called Aspartam. Sound more like a reaction to caffiene not the sweetener. The memory issue isn't memory its concentration. While you're system is hyped up on caffiene you are more alert but you have a tougher time trying to focus or concentrate on something. Some people aren't really too affected or dont realize they are being affected. Some people get all giddy on caffiene.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2008.02.14 01:49:00 - [42] Edited by: Sharupak on 14/02/2008 01:50:27 An ingredient in Aspartame...Methanol As the lady said, probably ok every now and then, but one diet soda a day for a certain period of time, Quote: Methanol is toxic by two mechanisms. Firstly, methanol (whether it enters the body by ingestion, inhalation, or absorption through the skin) can be fatal due to its CNS depressant properties in the same manner as ethanol poisoning. Secondly, it is toxic by its breakdown (toxication) by the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase in the liver by forming formic acid and formaldehyde which cause permanent blindness by destruction of the optic nerve.[2] Fetal tissue will not tolerate methanol. Dangerous doses will build up if a person is regularly exposed to vapors or handles liquid without skin protection. If methanol has been ingested, a doctor should be contacted immediately. The usual fatal dose is 100û125 mL (4 fl oz). Toxic effects take hours to start, and effective antidotes can often prevent permanent damage. This is treated using ethanol or fomepizole.[3] Either of these drugs acts to slow down the action of alcohol dehydrogenase on methanol by means of competitive inhibition, so that it is excreted by the kidneys rather than being transformed into toxic metabolites. Doesnt say it will make you fat, but I am thinking I will ******* stick to smoking thanks! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.02.14 01:58:00 - [43] Originally by: Sharupak Edited by: Sharupak on 14/02/2008 01:50:27 An ingredient in Aspartame...Methanol I do not see a methyl alcohol group here. Besides, that's like saying cyanide is an ingredient in DNA, so it can't be bad for you. Or I completely misunderstand.
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2008.02.14 02:15:00 - [44] Originally by: Brea Lafail Originally by: Sharupak Edited by: Sharupak on 14/02/2008 01:50:27 An ingredient in Aspartame...Methanol I do not see a methyl alcohol group here. Besides, that's like saying cyanide is an ingredient in DNA, so it can't be bad for you. Or I completely misunderstand. Right out of a kids science book Not really. Methanol is methanol and it is poisonous to humans. Cyanide may or may not be poisonous, when its combined with hydrogen or potassium...but then its an entirely different molecule. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.02.14 02:25:00 - [45] Ahhh, I see the methanol group now. T'was hiding off in the corner... And I thought CN- was poison regardless of what it was bonded to, as long as it disassociated into ions readily.

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