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chim
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:07:00 -
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sorry, thought that myself when seeing my post  Remember,even if it kills you, it will only make your clone smarter.... |

Kulach
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:18:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: chim on 31/03/2004 12:01:09 NO respect to Omega corp, nuff said !!
(we all know that ships drop out of login warp around 15k from where they warped out, when loggin off)
If you are not paying attention to where your fleet and gang members are for back up etc you would might not have been killed so why are you trying to blame someone else for your mistake?
If you saw multiple logins appearing in local you should have moved away instead of hanging around to get killed (if it was you that got killed. I was not online at the time and canÆt be bothered to look at the kill board).
CCP has clearly stated that there is no more ôlogin exploitö anymore so your entire argument is flaw.
Next thing you would say that it is an exploit to kill someone when you jump into a system without asking them for permission.
Get realà.
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 31/03/2004 12:32:39
Quote:
Quote: Edited by: chim on 31/03/2004 12:01:09 NO respect to Omega corp, nuff said !!
(we all know that ships drop out of login warp around 15k from where they warped out, when loggin off)
If you are not paying attention to where your fleet and gang members are for back up etc you would might not have been killed so why are you trying to blame someone else for your mistake?
If you saw multiple logins appearing in local you should have moved away instead of hanging around to get killed (if it was you that got killed. I was not online at the time and canÆt be bothered to look at the kill board).
CCP has clearly stated that there is no more ôlogin exploitö anymore so your entire argument is flaw.
Next thing you would say that it is an exploit to kill someone when you jump into a system without asking them for permission.
Get realà.
fact is, in both the kills we were allready sitting at the gate. And they jumped into us.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: DREAMWORKS on 31/03/2004 12:34:37 Xanadu choose to fight us and took 40 ships to fight 20 c4 warriors, and yet we managed to strip a tempest down to structure in a fleet battle and send 2 scorpionspilots home to their cloning facility.
Next time before you come to aid someone who cant manage to secure his own region, ask them to help you instead of letting them go out and mine. Maybe you would succeed. 
Congrats, you were used as puppets. __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:33:00 -
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How come there's no login exploit anymore?
You'd think, after the big deal they (CCP) made about it, that they'd announce a retraction.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Fenring
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:45:00 -
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Quote: How come there's no login exploit anymore?
You'd think, after the big deal they (CCP) made about it, that they'd announce a retraction.
There is no 'login exploit' until it is used against someone CCP likes. "The enemy to be feared is the one who wears the face of a friend"
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:46:00 -
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Quote: How come there's no login exploit anymore?
You'd think, after the big deal they (CCP) made about it, that they'd announce a retraction.
There is no login exploit because CCP made the warp in fix and GM's claim its no exploit because of this anymore.  __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

Narim
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:50:00 -
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lol, that list is hardly something to brag about. its not that much for 3 weeks |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.03.31 12:54:00 -
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Ummmm?
This doesn't make sense - you can log in quickly enough to cancel 1,000,000km warp and therefore warp to the aid of your bait.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Farstar Bansoon
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Posted - 2004.03.31 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Farstar Bansoon on 31/03/2004 14:02:48 Pretty useless to post such a list... What reactions do you wish to unlock?
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Svarun
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Posted - 2004.03.31 14:31:00 -
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Quote:
C4 cannot be seperate from CA - you cannot have 2 members of one alliance also in another alliance and keep them seperate.
If you don't want to belinked with CA, ask OTA/OC to leave CA or leave C4 yourself.
Pretty simple.
Of course it can. OC and OTC are not first nor last corps that are members of multiple alliances. What other C4 corps do is none of CAs bussiness and thats not gonna change just because you feel its not right.
Just give it a rest and acknowledge these simple facts. Or, if you really must, go ahead with it. Not that many ppl that care tbh.
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2004.03.31 14:49:00 -
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Ah the C4 forum warriors strike again. We were in Estorria and Paragon Soul and not once did I see our local forum warriors DREAMWORKS and Kayosoni.
Go ahead and gloat about your kills, Kraust's scorpion was happily reimbursed by the GMs. Kudos on the Ramirez kill I suppose.
Honestly, this egostroking is unneeded. We don't care, we play to have fun. Apparently you play to satisfy your own ego. -------------------------------------------------
Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.03.31 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 31/03/2004 15:13:38
Quote: Ah the C4 forum warriors strike again. We were in Estorria and Paragon Soul and not once did I see our local forum warriors DREAMWORKS and Kayosoni.
Go ahead and gloat about your kills, Kraust's scorpion was happily reimbursed by the GMs. Kudos on the Ramirez kill I suppose.
Honestly, this egostroking is unneeded. We don't care, we play to have fun. Apparently you play to satisfy your own ego.
bizarre, plz send me a log ingame of that replaced scorp. Cause i would like to understand why it was replaced.
since we chased him through a system and catching him with a frigate at the jump in
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.31 15:24:00 -
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Reason this all started was when the intial war began with Stain. Stain said they'd force us out, we argued they were losing, they said they were not and that our estimates on kills were inaccurate.
So it was agreed by a neutral entity (forget his name now, nice chap) that kill logs would be kept. Since then any campaign against stain and her allies (lo fountain) has been documented here.
If it's a bad ratio, then i do apologise, were clearly not as good as you lot, oh well. If you don't like us posting this list, then i do apologise further more but i kindly remind you that instead of bumping the thread and giving it more interest, you could just leave it alone.
Xanadu you may or may not heard of alts, you will never see Reverend Necrona (the character) in an engagement, i will personally however particpate in the majority of them (admitedly not any against xan so far). So yes, perhaps Kayo and DREAM were not there, as in characters, but rest assured i'm sure their other characters were.
Anyways - i would like to query Stain on why they have not been assisting Fountain during the past few days? They've come to assist and you go mining? This can't be true, lol.
Nice work on the list Kayo. Reverend Necrona |

Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.03.31 15:47:00 -
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Quote: NO respect to Omega corp, nuff said !!
(we all know that ships drop out of login warp around 15k from where they warped out, when loggin off) -[XAN]chim
I love the fact that they think we logged in at a gate or something when we destroyed them. Please keep thinking that.
Esoteria Campaign: This kill list is for the Esoteria Campaign against the SA and does not include the other camapigsn against SA. When this campaign began we were outnumbered 2-1 at the peak times. Now the SA forces here have been reduced to a small guerilla force that will not fight unless you can suprise them. We consider this campaign in the pacification stage and a clear victory.
Some say that the number of kills is not that great. However we're not out ganking noobs like cfs and we dont count cruisers and frigs as some do to inflate their numbers.
Simple fact is that SA has been savaged in this 4 month war. SA had stood against all comers to this point and scoffed when we told them that we could in fact take on the entire SA if they betrayed us. What remains of SA can hardly be called a functional alliance. The end is nigh and we are its harbingers.
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Moe Sczyzlak
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Posted - 2004.03.31 15:54:00 -
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Not that I was there yesterday but I was under the impression that logging off / on at gates was impossible now. Or is it just my ship that warps away when I log off?
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teewii
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Posted - 2004.03.31 16:13:00 -
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Quote: Not that I was there yesterday but I was under the impression that logging off / on at gates was impossible now. Or is it just my ship that warps away when I log off?
so what is the difference? still takes 20more sec b4 you arive there? hardly matters when you are warp jammed and webified etc. you see the exploit itslef was never that you appear right next to the enemy, but rather cheating him into beliving you wasent there by loging off so you dont show on map/local |

Silv
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Posted - 2004.03.31 17:54:00 -
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"Go ahead and gloat about your kills, Kraust's scorpion was happily reimbursed by the GMs."
My dog at my homework.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.03.31 18:41:00 -
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I wasn't there cause I'm PST, and all my targets seem to be Euro. It's pretty boring  -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Flavius Renatus
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Posted - 2004.03.31 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Flavius Renatus on 31/03/2004 19:22:42 Hi All,
Well, I do not post that much because most of what is said around here is a bunch of Cr4p anyway.
But I can not stand bye and listen to these unfounded accusations against the C4 fleet, of which I was apart of yesterday when the 2 Xan scorps were destroyed, of cheating.
We were at the jump in side of a gate LOGGED-IN for both fights.
I was in a Frig. and we had 3 BS around the gate for the first fight a Tempest and a Scorp jumped into the system, before I could close the range to scramble the scorp he warped to the plant that was hanging over the gate. I was ordered to pursue and caught up with the Scorp as he was comming out of Warp. The Tempest was also at the same planet. Just as I had scrambled the Scorp, Tholarim arrived at the planet in his BS along with one of our Scorpion Pilots. At that point the Tempest Pilot BAILED and left his buddy. We could not beleive it. Duke arrived a couple of seconds later and we finished downing the Xan Scorp.
The big Xan blob (approx 8 on the map and we all know how accurate that is) was 2 or 3 jumps away on the map at that point. Duke then had the Battleships dispurse. When The Blob arrived and moved though I was the only one left in that system. I was still at the planet and watched them on scanner come in and go out toward GQ2.
After about 10 minutes Duke had us all get back together at the same gate. We then moved down the chain away from the Blob toward H8 trying to link up with a Dreez in his BS. In the next system, as we were getting into jump range on the gate it activated and in popped another Xan Scorp all by himself. He did get away from me (much to my shame) and managed to warp to an insta-jump book mark at the next gate. I was ordered to follow. I caught him at the next gate, I did not go hostile so that I could follow him through if he Jumped. For some reason he waited for 10 to 15 seconds before he jumped which allowed our 3 BS's to arrive.
On the other sided I did get him scrambled, our 3 ships made the jump and we caught him. 2nd Xan Scorp destroyed.
At no time did we use any kind of cheat. We simply dispursed when confronted with overwhelming numbers. And I will admit we got lucky on the 2nd one. It helped that Xan would let an E-War Scorp go around on its own through Hostile territory.
So to those Xan corp members who were not there, your corp was not cheated in any way, shape, or form by Omega Corp. Both Scorpions were killed fair and square.
And to the Xan Tempest Pilot (don't remember name). Dude you left your buddy to swing on the rope when you could have cut him down.
Thanks.
Flavius Renatus
(Ancient Roman Military Historian)
Real Power Is Something You Take!!! |

JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.04.02 00:04:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 02/04/2004 00:09:31 Edited by: JaiMaster on 02/04/2004 00:04:51
Quote: Ah the C4 forum warriors strike again. We were in Estorria and Paragon Soul and not once did I see our local forum warriors DREAMWORKS and Kayosoni.
I would have thought it common knowlege that everyone in OC has clone travelling combat alts, but to enlighten the stupid, Dreamworks is also known as TGIF, and Kayo has so many battleship alts I dont even know which ones are him and which are really other people anymore.
We dont play to satisfy anyones ego. We play to kick your ass up and down, sideways, frontways, backwards, even diagonally! across as many regions as you care to be in. Sure, alot of C4 likes to talk the talk... *after* they blow the crap out of you. How long until Xanadu realises trading their bs's 8 for 1 isnt actually acheiving anything and run back tail between legs? 2 weeks? 3? peanut ------- Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.04.02 00:12:00 -
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hehehe -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Tamish
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Posted - 2004.04.02 03:12:00 -
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Your kill count in estonia sounds impressive but if you work out the average over 3 weeks it less than 2 BS kills a day, of which the vast majortiy are you ganking lone BS before returning to your safespots or when the majortiy of our guys have logged off.
We will see how you fair when you are forced to fight toe to toe against the full SA fleet by black-ops. If your kill ratio is any where near as impressive I will salute you but I very much doubt it will be.
Only time will tell 
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Mustafa Ken'Yova
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Posted - 2004.04.02 05:59:00 -
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Edited by: Mustafa Ken'Yova on 02/04/2004 06:00:26
Quote: Your kill count in estonia sounds impressive but if you work out the average over 3 weeks it less than 2 BS kills a day, of which the vast majortiy are you ganking lone BS before returning to your safespots or when the majortiy of our guys have logged off.
We will see how you fair when you are forced to fight toe to toe against the full SA fleet by black-ops. If your kill ratio is any where near as impressive I will salute you but I very much doubt it will be.
Only time will tell 
Hard to get more than 2 BS kills a day when the enemy is in dead space and / or not logged in.
I've seen SA stay and fight once or twice with even odds, and the last time I was involved in an even fight SA ended up with 4 BSes lost and a frig on our side.
Timezones do play a significant role here, but I've yet to see even fleet engagements showing a loss on our side. Simple.
Talk with fact, not fabrication.
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Star's Muppet
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Posted - 2004.04.02 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Star's Muppet on 02/04/2004 07:27:28
Quote: Now the SA forces here have been reduced to a small guerilla force that will not fight unless you can suprise them. We consider this campaign in the pacification stage and a clear victory.
Quote: What remains of SA can hardly be called a functional alliance. The end is nigh and we are its harbingers.
Bla bla bla bla bla bla , bla bla bla bla bla ... Duke, April Fools is allready over, so it ain't funny anymore. Show us some respect, seriously. All you do is patt yourselves on the back.
Did you ever heared of Timezones?
By the time your laying in bed , I'm playing ... and vice versa... |

DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.04.02 07:53:00 -
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Quote: Ah the C4 forum warriors strike again. We were in Estorria and Paragon Soul and not once did I see our local forum warriors DREAMWORKS and Kayosoni.
Go ahead and gloat about your kills, Kraust's scorpion was happily reimbursed by the GMs. Kudos on the Ramirez kill I suppose.
Honestly, this egostroking is unneeded. We don't care, we play to have fun. Apparently you play to satisfy your own ego.
That interceptor that took down one of your kestrel scouts filled with battleship modules was one of the kills i claim in cooperation with Daviid. That single Omega corp interceptor that noted down all your battleship types, and report Tyrell wagging their tails like happy little puppies was also one of my duties. God i love them at some times.
Due to tactical reasons and the damn expense of my clone i was not able to transport _all_ of my characters to fight the o-so-glorious-fountain-alliance. But i was there, waiting for your scouts to make a mistake, having my eyes on you and watching every move.
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Extravagant
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Posted - 2004.04.02 08:02:00 -
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Quote: Due to tactical reasons and the damn expense of my clone i was not able to transport _all_ of my characters to fight the o-so-glorious-fountain-alliance. But i was there, waiting for your scouts to make a mistake, having my eyes on you and watching every move.
From what I can gather there was just one corporation out there to fight you and appparently that one corporation managed to outnumber an entire alliance. I can see why Duke put up his recruitment post...
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.04.02 08:19:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Due to tactical reasons and the damn expense of my clone i was not able to transport _all_ of my characters to fight the o-so-glorious-fountain-alliance. But i was there, waiting for your scouts to make a mistake, having my eyes on you and watching every move.
From what I can gather there was just one corporation out there to fight you and appparently that one corporation managed to outnumber an entire alliance. I can see why Duke put up his recruitment post...
Wrong, most them was Xanadu, but not 100%. The fleet existed from a mayority of Xanadu, some stain and 2 - 4 other FA ships. Sure they did outnumber us, but then again we don't intent to absorb other corporations and recruit industrial people who can be deployed as blob. We seek fighters who seek action, can use a honorcode in the battlefields. Every corporation suffers losses of staff/friends when a new game releases or a beta starts, and its only natural to keep positions open in the corp to expand in the future.
C4 has goals and yes thats where people are needed to realise these goals if they find that goal there's, that has nothing to do with Fountains presence for 2 days after we received a request from Fountain to retract from the region. __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

AsInnocentAsItGets
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Posted - 2004.04.02 10:47:00 -
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Quote:
I was ordered to pursue and caught up with the Scorp as he was comming out of Warp. The Tempest was also at the same planet. Just as I had scrambled the Scorp, Tholarim arrived at the planet in his BS along with one of our Scorpion Pilots. At that point the Tempest Pilot BAILED and left his buddy. We could not beleive it. Duke arrived a couple of seconds later and we finished downing the Xan Scorp.
The big Xan blob (approx 8 on the map and we all know how accurate that is) was 2 or 3 jumps away on the map at that point. Duke then had the Battleships dispurse. When The Blob arrived and moved though I was the only one left in that system. I was still at the planet and watched them on scanner come in and go out toward GQ2.
After about 10 minutes Duke had us all get back together at the same gate. We then moved down the chain away from the Blob toward H8 trying to link up with a Dreez in his BS. In the next system, as we were getting into jump range on the gate it activated and in popped another Xan Scorp all by himself. He did get away from me (much to my shame) and managed to warp to an insta-jump book mark at the next gate. I was ordered to follow. I caught him at the next gate, I did not go hostile so that I could follow him through if he Jumped. For some reason he waited for 10 to 15 seconds before he jumped which allowed our 3 BS's to arrive.
On the other sided I did get him scrambled, our 3 ships made the jump and we caught him. 2nd Xan Scorp destroyed.
Flavius Renatus
Xan seems like total n00bs
   
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The Wraith
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Posted - 2004.04.02 11:04:00 -
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Quote:
Xan seems like total n00bs
   
You being an expert on n00bs I take it?
Always good to know yourself is it not?
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