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qrac
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Posted - 2004.04.01 23:02:00 -
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I would REALLY like to see you get your cap recharge anywhere near 200 after the next patch.
How about 3-4 mid slot cap rechargers + 2-3 cap relays, which leaves enough space for 2 L armor repairers and 2-3 armor hardeners.
u wont be able to fit even 6 megabeams with that setup.
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qrac
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Posted - 2004.04.02 07:52:00 -
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for the "experts" saying lasers are ok:
do u know an apoc setup with lasers that'd beat a tempest or a megathron. cap relays aren't allowed (unless using armour to tank) since they're getting hit by the nerf bat.
the pilots will have lvl 5 in all relevant skills.
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Posted - 2004.04.02 12:26:00 -
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I use an apoc and this is how i see it, sorry if this is slightly off topic, i just wanted to ad my view.
Not seeing lasers on none amarr ships is how it should be, they demand a huge amount of power and as such lasers should only be usable by amarr ships as they are the only ones with enough power to actually make use of them.
maybe lasers do need a little love, so that amarr ships actually start to use them again, however i think this should be given in the form of amarr ship bonuses and not by improving the stats of the actuall lasers. if this is done the wrong way round then every BS in space will be suing tachys again before we know it.
On a PVP note i dont think the Apoc should be able to hold its own with the best PVP ships, every ship needs an area of expertise, the apoc is already the master miner and one of the best, if not the best NPC hunter in the game, i think to improve it much in the pvp stakes would be to make it a little too good.
No im not trying to slate my own ship but id rather have the ship stable (as in not getting nerfed or improved with every patch) I bought the ship for its mining abilitys if i wanted to go into PVP i would buy either a scorp or a tempest. i dont think any ship should be great in all areas.
QD
an apoc is quite good already in pvp BUT the problem is that it sucks in pvp when using lasers. i'd rather use 425mm rails than tachs or megabeams and i'd rather use blasters than mega pulses.
why? because i can have better defenses and still be able dish out more damage with them than lasers.
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Posted - 2004.04.03 13:18:00 -
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As I've said before. People who want to use lasers have an incentive to use Amarr ships (due to amarr ship bonuses), but people who want to use amarr ships don't have enough incentive to use lasers over another type of weapon (again, due to ship bonuses). Thus lasers are becoming rarely used by anyone. Amarr ships reduce the pain of using lasers but not enough nor give enough extra benifit to outweigh the use of different weapons.
excellent and 100% correct analysis.
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Posted - 2004.04.05 10:08:00 -
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Depends on where you look, cause I see a lot of lasers on non-Amarr ships. And even if that was the case it would be easily explained lasers have a lot of advantages but their disadvantage is quite hard to deal with for the common pilot, especially considering the common Amarr pilot has trouble pulling it off and he/she has it a lot easier then for instance a megathron pilot. Question is, is that a unbalance in the game, or pilots that can't kit their ships properly. You say it's the first, I say it's the second option.
now tell me how to equip my apoc with lasers and be able to take your megathron out.
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Posted - 2004.04.05 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: qrac on 05/04/2004 10:15:56
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The funny thing is guns are actually balanced now and that indeed means that you can get as much DOT using rails on your apoc, and if you don't understand the strenghts of lasers, then by all means fit rails.
since guns are actually balanced we can take away all ship bonuses for guns. 
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Posted - 2004.04.05 11:38:00 -
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gariuys, you're missing the point. there is no point in using lasers on most amarr ships.
take the apocalypse for example. why fit lasers when hybrids are better for both long and close range? this makes the apocalypse and a lot of other amarr ships waste a valuable ship bonus.
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