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Shardrael
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.02.17 22:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Sikozu Prioris
Originally by: Larshus Magrus
Newsflash: Vista makes EVERYTHING crash more often.
Wrong. Vista is millions of times more stable than xp. On the same hardware I get maybe one crash of a program a month in vista x64 ultimate where as in xp programs would crash and lock multiple times a week. Also in vista when a program crashes you nearly never ever have to restart. In xp restart is the solution.
Vista is better than xp, stop believing the news stories that are from vista's launch.
Im running a final beta version of sp1 for vista and i've not experienced any problems with eve.
I have had vista on this labtop for about 7 or 8 months. In that time I have about an 80% failure rate on games installing and working right away. Vista almost always has some kind of problem with it and wont let it install right. On top of that since trinity came out I have not been able to run the new graphics client stably until yesterday on my vista machine yet xp ran fine. How did I get it to work you ask? I ran it in xp sp2 compatability mode....
as well in the last 7 months I have bought 3 games all less then 3 to 4 years old that simply wont play on vista no matter what.
vista is the devil and it is not something that is overhyped, it is fact based on experience....
ffs yesterday was the happiest day of the last 7 months cause a friend mentioned something about microsoft having a free downgrade program to xp for vista users.
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Bohoba
Caldari
The Dragons Den
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Posted - 2008.02.17 23:33:00 -
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hehe learn computers 101
Vista rocks
Windows VistaÖ Ultimate x64-based PC
Gigabyte X38-DQ6
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU Q6850 Memory 4,093.69 MB
2X Crossfire ASUS EAH3870/G/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 3870 512MB
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Mogren
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.02.18 00:20:00 -
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I built a new computer around Christmas, threw Vista Ultimate on it, and have had no problems with EVE or any other game for that matter. If you turn on all the special aero and pretty settings, it hogs some RAM. Other than that I have no complaints or compatibility issues.
I would not download SP1 until its actually released. They slated it for public release in March for a reason (its not done yet).
Also don't forget that XP had many issues before SP 1 and SP 2 were released. Vista will mature and work out the kinks.
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Parhelion
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.18 03:31:00 -
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You Vista trolls are pure comedy. Destroyed your RAM lol, whats next, Vista raped my mother!!!111omgzzzzlol. Geesus
Running Vista for ages on my notebook and its rock solid and awesome. Stop towing the technophobe party line and try it for yourself before jumping on the 'vista is ****' bandwagon.
If you're getting blue screens it's because:
* Your hardware is ****
* You don't know how to operate a computer and don't deserve one
* You're overclocking your setup and expect everything to work without issues.
* You haven't updated your drivers / your hardware doesn't have decent drivers available for Vista. Drivers are the main issue for the perception that Vista is crap, blame your hardware vendors or better yet, buy hardware from vendors that have decent drivers available for Vista.
I installed Vista SP1 yesterday and have had no issues with any applications at all, in fact, it has improved various performance issues specifically (for me) file transfers speeds over a local network.
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Daytra
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Posted - 2008.02.18 03:51:00 -
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Seems there is big difference in Vistaa experience depending on whether you install it on new hardware or try to update an older XP system. Did you build a new system for Vista based on DDR?
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Willford Bremly
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
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Posted - 2008.02.18 03:54:00 -
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I have never had a BSOD on Vista. My longest uptime was 64 days on XP with 1 BSOD from a faulty video card. And that was while playing TF2 and EVE most of the time. Keep your computer clean from viruses and spyware and I guarantee these problems wont happen. My vista pc is new, about 2 weeks old now. So far no problems. I haven't tried to keep an uptime yet because I kind of like its hibernation mode, it's a lot better than XP's. Just push a button and the pc fires up in like 3 seconds.
Oh, and I never use spyware/antivirus software because I believe sometimes removing viruses causes more problems. Just practice safe surfing habits and your fine.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.02.18 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kyra Felann on 18/02/2008 04:08:42
Originally by: Nova Fox
sure blame it on hardware, even with the two sticks removed vista still spewed out memory problems and kept BSOD about 15 minutes into eve on max (havent tried other games yet) and about 30-1hr on any other program.
If it's not hardware, then why does Vista work 100% fine on my machine? I built a new gaming machine from scratch to be Vista/DX10 compatible, but that must not be why it works fine...because that's hardware.
Maybe your particular copy is just ********?
EDIT: *sigh* I really don't like this overzealous filter on the forums. Ok, fine, I meant "mentally challenged." How's that?
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Willford Bremly
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
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Posted - 2008.02.18 04:08:00 -
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1 mil isk says they are running vista on 265mb of ram.
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Shardrael
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.02.18 04:12:00 -
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ffs you guys are *****ing about everyone not liking vista and carrying some kind of mass consciousness line, while you are towing the microsoft line....
the OS is crap for alot of people that have used it. Including myself and my hardware is fine, 6 month old alienware m9700 fairly well upgraded and vista has literally been nothing but problematic in almost all areas I have had to use the computer for.
you can try and call me an idiot or dismiss me in some other way if it helps you deal with the fact that there are mass problems experienced by large groups of people on this OS. It is not all in our imagination we call them experiences because they actually happened. If you have been running it from release ok then good for you, your lucky in my book but that doesnt discount all the **** the rest of us have had to put up with in this OS.
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Jwstohr
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Posted - 2008.02.18 04:18:00 -
[40]
No, I installed vista expecting the worst. So far its been great. And it's fun watching people post stating that vista ate their memory like its the cookie monster or something.
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Aeo IV
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.18 04:21:00 -
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I've run Vista for as long as it's been on the market, and I've never had the sort of problems people seem to claim is caused by vista.
I remember reading somewhere that a lot of problems 'caused' by windows (IE, Blue Screens, etc) are not caused by Windows, but rather the underlying software: DOS.
Now, I'm sure that some people are having problem's with vista, every time you install a program their's always a chance it'll be corrupted or incorrectly install.
The truth be told it probably is ether that, or you have bad hardware; ether it's physically messed up, or you need to reinstall it's drivers. For example, in the game Supreme Commander, most people probably notice a poor frame rate, etc. But this stems from the hardware in your computer; without enough ram, your computer can't run it correctly, because it needs to perform many, many calculations per second, and such.
So, as a suggestion, you should make sure that you have the better-then-minimum hardware, as well as updated drivers.
That being said, there may be a problem with the new patch, it's not exactly unheard of you know, for a patch to mess up a program. Programmers are only human you know.
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.02.18 04:35:00 -
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Since posters in this thread seem not to notice: in hindsight, this thread does looks like a bunch of retards arguing.
Stop it and let it die. Neither of you is making a point or proving anything.
Originally by: Aeo IV
I remember reading somewhere that a lot of problems 'caused' by windows (IE, Blue Screens, etc) are not caused by Windows, but rather the underlying software: DOS.
This I had to quote -- it just tales the cake!.
(Note, it is true for Windows 3.1x)
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Aeo IV
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.18 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka
Since posters in this thread seem not to notice: in hindsight, this thread does looks like a bunch of retards arguing.
Stop it and let it die. Neither of you is making a point or proving anything.
Originally by: Aeo IV
I remember reading somewhere that a lot of problems 'caused' by windows (IE, Blue Screens, etc) are not caused by Windows, but rather the underlying software: DOS.
This I had to quote -- it just tales the cake!.
(Note, it is true for Windows 3.1x)
Well, it was a while ago, although I believe they were referring to more recent versions of windows.
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2008.02.18 05:27:00 -
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Requesting this thread be closed. Was not meant to be a Vista ***** session.
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McAltyalty
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Posted - 2008.02.18 07:43:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Aeo IV
Originally by: Victor Valka
Since posters in this thread seem not to notice: in hindsight, this thread does looks like a bunch of retards arguing.
Stop it and let it die. Neither of you is making a point or proving anything.
Originally by: Aeo IV
I remember reading somewhere that a lot of problems 'caused' by windows (IE, Blue Screens, etc) are not caused by Windows, but rather the underlying software: DOS.
This I had to quote -- it just tales the cake!.
(Note, it is true for Windows 3.1x)
Well, it was a while ago, although I believe they were referring to more recent versions of windows.
What??
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Julius Romanus
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.02.18 07:55:00 -
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I have vista home. It's been a crash free environment outside of a bad driver install or two. It's pretty, and fairly user friendly for navigation.
It is however, an obese resource pig that should never EVER be sold on computers that come with 1gb of ram standard. I'm looking at you HP/Dell.
Usually alt tab/window mode are delay free, but sometimes I find the page file getting hit for upwards of 30 seconds for no real reason(no additional strain placed on the system). I've lost a ship/pod to that once or twice. Otherwise vista is fine for me.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.18 11:32:00 -
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I dont care how angry you guys get at me for telling you my personal experinces with the OS. Doesnt change the fact i got a copy of vista sitting storage shelf and xp on most of my current laptops. This OS isnt for everyone, just like mac or linux is.
But the way you guys behave you remind me of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYIfyDENTIY
Dont get me wrong, I'll continue to give vista chances and ill remain flexible to allow my customers to make thier own decisions, but until I can clean or upgrade install vista without issues. At least Ive taken down the 'will not fix vista computers' about 4 months after release. Last time i had a sign like that was with packard bell and that was until the day they died.
Also when I heard they aborted vista inital code the last second and rehashed the code at the last second I knew it was going to be a bad day and I stopped being that guy in the video.
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Allan Picard
Best Path Inc.
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.02.18 11:48:00 -
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Well i dont wanna join the wagon pro/contra, just share my exp with Vista.
I have Home Premium 32 bit since July 2007 on:
ASUS M2N-Deluxe
GForce 6600
2GB Kingston DDR2
Playin mostely EVE and CIV4...
No problems at all.
I DO now:
No OS is perfect (some are better on specific areas, or have better security).
Im workin in publishing house and were using evrything from Mac to Linux systems...
And to be truthfull, our IT personell have tendency to throw at least one of them every week thru the window.
It all comes down to the individual: how much luck u have.
Today you can buy Mercedes for loooots of money, and still fails from some stupid
production mistake.
Mass production guys...thats all!
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Rimac
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Posted - 2008.02.18 15:03:00 -
[49]
The only issue I have with Vista and EVE is that it can crash the entire system (and quite radically so) if I have sound turned on.
I suspect the reason for that lies in the SoundMax drivers for my integrated mainboard audio (I have an ASUS MB btw). The SoundMax drivers were originally horrible (and still are). Even though they work in most games, I can always
Why not get a separate soundcard? I actually had one in my system at first (modern Creative Audigy) but the problems with the creative drivers on Vista were even worse. I'm used to very good quality from creative in both soft- and hardware, but this just wouldn't work properly at all. I even tried different models of soundcards.
So I went back to onboard sound, and while it does work properly in almost every game, if I turn on sound in EVE I get an occassional crash. If I leave EVE sound off, all is fine though... so now I'm hoping for an update from SoundMax... :(
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Maestro Ulv
Edyta Enterprises
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.18 17:13:00 -
[50]
Originally by: MysticNZ
Seems to make EVE crash very often. Just a warning to devs/players.
Erm, no?
Using Vista32 premium here, have had no eve problems caused by vista and so far no BSOD in.. erm, 6 months, something like that.
I have had a gfx problem caused by nvidia drivers being naff for vista at first but this was fixed ages ago. That didn't cause eve to crash either, just to not respond for a second or two till the gpu recovered.
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Psym0n
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.18 17:39:00 -
[51]
I personally enjoy using vista. The only blue screen i have ever had is when i put 4GB of memory in without the hotfix. Installed hotfix, and has been a peach since.
New hardware cant go wrong with Vista to be honest. People expect there wooden pc to run it, and wonder why it crashes.
However, Vista Ultimate 64bit, 4Gb of Memory, its a peach.
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Rain Fionn
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.18 18:10:00 -
[52]
Haha, I love these kinds of threads ;)
I've been running Vista Ultimate (32) for several months, I upgraded from XP Pro.
Never had a single problem, my system is perfectly stable.
I've run three eve clients at the same time, on the same pc, under vista, no problems.
No complaints here.
My person experience in pc building and software distribution has lead me to believe, 9 out of 10 pc problems are all down to the user, and not the pc, or the inexperience of the system builder combined with subtle hardware incompatabilitlies. AMD 'used' to be very bad for this, in the old days.
Oh and overclocking, if this is not done right... BSOD
Linux.. secure.. yeah right.... only if you know 'exactly' how to set it up. Though some of the packaged releases are much much better than they used to be.
But what the feck do I know, this is only an opinion as I have no interest in fixing anyones pc.
*sits back and put feet up to be warmed by the flames;)*
Just an opinion, when you open the side of a pc it very much resembles Schr÷denger's cat problem.
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Syraine
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Posted - 2008.02.18 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Syraine on 18/02/2008 18:28:48
I run Vista Ultimate 32 bit. I did not build a system for it, I wiped my Hard Drive of XP and installed it clean. I have no problems with any game I have tried playing, from EVE to Crysis (no not Crysis on max settings-see pc specs  ), it runs them all like a champ. Also since switching to Vista last year, I have not seen a single BSOD. Granted I very rarely got them on XP sp2, but overall Vista has been much more stable for me. EVE has absolutely ZERO problems running on it and my machine is far from being the latest & greatest.
I run:
AMD 64 3800+ X2
2 gb of 400 Mhz DDR (running at 333 Mhz because I bought cheapo double sided ram for a dual channel system)
MSI K8N Neo 4 Platinum SLI motherboard (nForce 4 chipset)
EVGA 8800 GT KO 512mb PCIe (single card)
Vista Ultimate 32 bit
nothing is over clocked except for my video card which came factory OC'ed beyond the reference specs
I play EVE at 1680x1050 with AA/AF + HDR (forced with nhancer) and it plays smooth, looks great, and never crashes.
Vista does NOT cause EVE to crash.
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Frug
True Foundation
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.02.18 18:29:00 -
[54]
Not this again.
Vista is trash. Anyone who knows much about computers knows that.
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2008.02.18 19:29:00 -
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In the end Vista will be the most secure Microsoft operating system
isn't that a bit like saying "that was the best rectal exam i ever had" i mean sure it may have been the best but it's still a rectal exam when all is said and done.
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CCP Saint
C C P
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Posted - 2008.02.18 19:57:00 -
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*Locked* OP request.
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