bldyannoyed
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Posted - 2008.02.18 09:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Gypsio III
To illustrate the NH's grid problem, here is a sensible NH pvp fit. It uses HAMs, has a MWD and is active-tanked with a gang mod - fairly comparable with the close-range fits on other CS, and well suited for small-gang warfare.
6x HAM II, gang mod
MWD II, Medium electro cap booster, LSB II, 2x Inv II
3x RCU II, PDS II, DC II.
Notice that it requires 4 fitting mods to work! Without the RCU IIs and PDS II, you are using 1363.4 of 887.5 PG - that's a 475.9 PG shortfall!! This is just absurd.
Now, I'm quite happy for that NH fit to require a fitting mod (maybe even two?) - it does represent a high-end fit after all. But requiring 4 fitting mods is just stupid. A PG boost of 300 would enable that setup to fit with max skills and a single RCU II.
Currently, the NH is almost overshadowed by the Drake - the NH's superior theoretical DPS and tank is generally overshadowed by the Drake's easier fitting of BCS and its superior slot layout. A substantial PG boost will fix this.
Drop the bloody gang link for a start. None of them find it easy to fit a gang link without breaking the rest of their setup.
And as far as its DPS goes, yeah, it has the same low " On Paper " DPS as pretty much every single missile ship in the game. Anyone who hasnt worked out that on paper DPS is meaningless needs to get out and play a bit more. A Sleipnir may do 600 odd DPS, but it only does that at 2km. At 15KM you can scrub 25% of that for the guns being partially into falloff, which, SHOCK HORROR, brings the damage down closer to the 450 mark.
Which really isnt that much different to a NH.
But with regards to HAM's, yeah, some extra PG and swapping the Precision bonus to Velocity really wouldn't go amiss.
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bldyannoyed
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Posted - 2008.02.18 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 18/02/2008 10:11:33
Originally by: bldyannoyed
Drop the bloody gang link for a start. None of them find it easy to fit a gang link without breaking the rest of their setup.
And this is the problem. The Nighthawk is a command ship. Any setup without a gang mod is a complete waste, and you should just fly a Raven or Cerberus instead. If the Nighthawk can not fit a gang mod without killing the rest of the setup, the ship is broken. It needs at least +400 grid, and probably some CPU as well.
Presumably then you would intend to give the same boost to the other Command Ships to allow them the same fitting leeway.
You wanna fit gang links you fly the FLEET Command ships. The fact that the FIELD Command ships have the arbitrary bonus to gang link CPU is no excuse to a) cripple a potentially powerful combat setup to get one on or b) come to the forums and waaaah when you can't.
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