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Sylthi
Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2008.02.20 08:19:00 -
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One question: So when are people in Q&A going to start loosing their jobs over stuff like this? Boot.ini and client lockouts within a single business quarter of one another? A failed patch when there was only a single item (according to official sources) being rolled out? Wait... I've made a tereible assumption! IS there a Q&A department to fire?
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Teyrala
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.02.20 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Katana Seiko Service Pack 1 is out, so the biggest arguement you had against moving on is gone.
So SP1 fixed the huge resource wastes, unnecessary 'features', performance issues, compatibility issues, microsoft spyware, DRM rubbish and other assorted irritations did it?
Anyway, why does tq need 3 hour dt for a CLIENT fix?
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Flag Bravo
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.02.20 08:56:00 -
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Looks to me like there is only 1 person left working for CCP that actually knows what they are doing, unfortunately they are on holiday.
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Alcran
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Posted - 2008.02.20 09:11:00 -
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Shame it's on a day I have loads of free time...but, oh well, you win some you loose some.
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Siegemos
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Posted - 2008.02.20 09:19:00 -
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Oh dear... You guys suck so much at patching!
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2008.02.20 09:25:00 -
[96]
It's a 'clear cache for some users' patch? To kick the machonet version number from their current eve folders? -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast !
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St0mper
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Posted - 2008.02.20 09:59:00 -
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OMG another 3 hours DT to fix the problem you tried to fix yesterday, well all hands on deck this sucks, we pay money real life money to play this game, i would have no problem with the game crashing once in a while if it was something we bought in the store for a one time fee, like most games. but since we pay a monthly fee and you robb us of many hours a week do we get a refund for lost gametime, since its almost everyday the DT is extended, or like it is now, we cant get online after the new patch ??? just have to say if this was any other type of business the people in charge of this operation would have been fired for incompetence a long time ago, cause if there is something that looses players for a game then its complications concerning the simple of things, like actually getting ingame. and i know you have to take alot of crap, but all you need to do so you dont get all this anger and dissatisfaction sendt your way is get some propper people to work for you that takes responsebility for the game crashing.
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Korotani
Caldari Darkwater Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 10:26:00 -
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I'd quite like to see an explanation from the devs as to why this happened.
Surely they tested this before deployment, it's silly that this has to happen. The DT is no matter to me because I'm at uni for it, however for other people this is incredibly frustrating, and I would have thought after building up a 40k+ player base CCP would be able to find these sorts of things before putting the patch out.
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Pan Crastus
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho Can we expect another extended DT on Thursday to fix the problems from the patch on Wednesday that was meant to fix the problems from Tuesday?
I can see it coming... The login message will be changed from "daily DT 11:00-12:00 GMT" to "daily extended downtime 11:00-14:00 (allow for 1 extra hour) to fix the problems we introduced yesterday" ...
EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
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Aries Gunslinger
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Posted - 2008.02.20 10:40:00 -
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CCP has over 200k paying subs (Official number from CCP), not 40k... 40k+ is the record number of peeps online at once.
So that's 200k x 14.99 USD per month... That's 2,998,000 USD, yes, nearly 3 million USD per month... got that? THREE M-I-L-L-I-O-N USD P-E-R M-O-N-T-H
I ain't *****ing, I'm just wondering where 3mil USD is going to every month when things like this happen.
And just on this whole QA thing, it's outsourced as per the last official CCP source. CCP, can I PLEASE get the cash for testing EVE for you??? I'm pretty sure I can single handedly manage clicking on the shortcut for all that cash.
I have 3 accounts, all 3 on 1 yr subs, I have been playing eve since just after beta and I'm crazy over it. All I want is to play
Excellent quote I saw early on in this topic: Hi, my name is <insert your name here>, and im an eve addict. i didnt know i was an addict until CCP broke my game......
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Daan Sai
HAZCON Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.20 10:42:00 -
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ROFL LOL!
Bets on a 1.0.4 patch the next day anyone? :) Roll on Weapons Upgrades V...
Seriously tho', bad luck. I guess the testing lab needs to cover an even wider range of possible EVE setups. Wouldn't you love a standardised installation??
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Flag Bravo
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Aries Gunslinger CCP has over 200k paying subs (Official number from CCP), not 40k... 40k+ is the record number of peeps online at once.
So that's 200k x 14.99 USD per month... That's 2,998,000 USD, yes, nearly 3 million USD per month... got that? THREE M-I-L-L-I-O-N USD P-E-R M-O-N-T-H
I ain't *****ing, I'm just wondering where 3mil USD is going to every month when things like this happen.
CCP are Icelandic and don't even know what USD are, their currency is in penguins.
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NON NONAME
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:18:00 -
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Hi, my name is <Non Noname>, and im an eve addict. i didnt know i was an addict until CCP broke my game......
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Elah'n'matir
Gallente PezCo - Ice Services Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:26:00 -
[104]
hi my name is elah'n'matir,an i am an eve addict. to be honest ccp didnt break my game but i do get the nice little 3 hour dts. i doubt we will ever see any form of reimbursement cause i have seen lots of these 3 hour dts and other types off messups. and have lost lots of isk and sp by not being a ble to get online and such. i know this stuff is hard and so on but thats their job, i get bullied if i dont do mine and so should they. if ccp were smart theyd just REIMBURSE us all and then we'd all go quiet. and because giving us al a bunch of isk and sp only costs em some time (and no money) i dont see why they don't. especially knowing that it would shut 90% of us up.(if its a decent one offcourse)
Quote: even in penguins 3 million dollars is a lot of money.
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Tainted Angel
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:41:00 -
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farfrael
Freelancer Union
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: farfrael on 20/02/2008 11:46:32 6 hours of downtime to fix a trivial bug and then fix the fix? you guys are a joke
also, thanks for the advanced notice ... so we could, you know, not have a skill finish in the middle of this unannounced downtime usually, in a normal company, after 4 years, things get better. Not with CCP, things get worse
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ncc 1709
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:54:00 -
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lol. second time in 2 days, where another 3 hours are wasted.... total = 6, so when it hits 24h, do we get a free day?
well im off to do some house work, i hope its fixed before im finished, as it might take some time.
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TiTan II
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:57:00 -
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Hi, my name is Aries, and im an eve addict. I didnt know i was an addict until CCP broke my game...... |
Saffron Noire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:59:00 -
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Well i fixed the error yesterday myself, and now my fix has made it incompatible today! (frowny face)
PLEASE JUST MAKE SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO FIX THIS 'NEW' ERROR on the PATCH page. I have no idea whats going on now. all the info is disseminated across different fora and pages.
Do we need to download the whole client (AGAIN!!!) from scratch after the server goes live again?
Please break from the normal CCP methods and just give us some info on what to do about it.
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Sky Marshal
Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:08:00 -
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3 hours of downtime to correct a single bug like this ?
Seriously CCP, are you in holidays ? Is there a problem with your dev team or other things ?
3 hours...
Come on, this can't be possible. I guess that for Trinity 1.1 we will have 1 week of downtime, at this rate ? _______
16/20 Dragon : ½ Great Game + 14/20 Revelations : ½ Desyncs... + 11/20 Trinity : ½ BBSOD, Bugs, Desyncs, F*** Nerfs + 10/20 v1.1 : ½ [...] + EXP shield nerf +
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Jack Hail
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:18:00 -
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Am the same i followed the text yestaday to fix it and the second fix has srewed me over again. Guess i will need to wait until 1400 to see if i can connect at all.
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Razmar Corevan
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:21:00 -
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CCP u set the benchmark in underperformance and rubbish service.. I add my voice to the chorus of players who ask how can this happen? I am a newish player to EVE but i dont mind telling you it hasnt taken you long to make me hot under the collar.. In a few short months i have seen that you are borderline incapable as a company of managing your content development in a fashion that is that doesnt liberally abuse the relationship you have with me as a customer.. Not sure if your on top of the concept but when you charge me real life $$$ for the opportunity to play your game its generally good form to follow through on that commitment.. You have my money and you have my playing time and that is tragic.. My second gripe and again i ask yu to bear in mind.. I am a new player.. but even with next to no tenure in game its clear to me ur game balancing staff simply have no clue.. the upcomming changes to ammar do nothing for ammar (Change for the sake of change), in fact most the changes appear to be for the sake of change only.. and some of the changes like the "enhancement" to the deimos tank by switching out a low slot to a medium slot are imho outright dishonest.. But i digress..
As a company you will need to do better if u want to keep my business.. your game is pretty cool and is rich in content but let me sound the warning.. players will leave you in droves regardless if u cant deliver a professional standard of service on all fronts.....
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Xorader
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:25:00 -
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i have Vista: YESTERDAY when there was a error i go to C:\ProgramData and kill EVE folder, whem restart eve client and start play correct.
TODAY.. i'm start EVE and I see this f* error again go read news
In Vista Copy "%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\CCP" ( without the " ) into the address bar of the window that opened and Press Enter Remove the folder called "EVE". Start the game and log in.
againg do same thing - kill EVE... start client... and SEE ERROR again... wtf dont work? =)
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Mereden
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:29:00 -
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Is the server meant to be up, because I'm now getting the incompatible (protocol) error - it was working just fine last night
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mppnkey
Gallente Trench coat mafia
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:33:00 -
[115]
yeah getting the same incompatible protocol thing as yesturday, nice work ccp, shall we make a date, at lets say, this time tomorrow for the next hot fix, sweet, see you there
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Echo Vector
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:34:00 -
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Yeah, this is annoying. Yeah, this might even be "bad". But I and I'm sure many others have surely been subjected to far worse for far longer, and in some cases for far more real world cash.
Would you rather CCP be bought out by, oh, I don't know, let's say Sony Online Entertainment? Or worse? ( Does worse than SOE even exist outside of Redmond, Washington? )
At the end of the day, it's just a game. You aren't making your living from it, and if you are, then a great big middle finger to you, you ISK selling, channel spamming bastiges.
Addictions and habits are a *****. Sometimes it's a good thing for the pusher to withhold your "fix" from you so that you can get a little perspective and clarity in your life.
CCP, carry on. PeePee CaCa happens. Nobody is perfect and a few hours without a "game" shouldn't be a cause for high blood pressure and vitriol.
Flame away, folks, I'm wearing Nomex.
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Tomash Kovahlsky
Polish Task Forces C0VEN
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Aries Gunslinger CCP has over 200k paying subs (Official number from CCP), not 40k... 40k+ is the record number of peeps online at once.
So that's 200k x 14.99 USD per month... That's 2,998,000 USD, yes, nearly 3 million USD per month... got that? THREE M-I-L-L-I-O-N USD P-E-R M-O-N-T-H
I ain't *****ing, I'm just wondering where 3mil USD is going to every month when things like this happen.
Hmm, let's see: - taxes! - interest of TC dealers - server maintenance fees - network provider fees - hardware upgrades - advertising - etc. etc.
So for sure it's not 3M per month, that they have in their pockets :)
And besides, having as big a computer program as EVE is, and the multiplicity of environments it has to run on, leaves space for unchecked areas of it - thus bugs are inevitable.
Also, a 3h DT is only 2h more than usual - why not go and see a movie, or visit some RL friends - or maybe - just maybe - clean up the room(s) of your kid(s), or your own ?
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Emetic Smile
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:43:00 -
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Just to note that for those confused (like myself) about is the server up/down am I fuxxored now? WTF is happening. Has there been a new bug introduced that broke me now? Etc.
Evemon is reporting that the server is up but only 3 pilots on it <- read that as noone is having fun. I assume that means wait till 14.00 and see what happens rather than fret...
Course, thanks for the info CCP! You must know it'd be confusing with some without yesterdays issue now actually having it. Of course taking into account your past record of information disemmination and pure pure comedy of competetance.
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Hiroshim
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Hiroshim on 20/02/2008 12:44:48
Originally by: Aries Gunslinger
Also, a 3h DT is only 2h more than usual - why not go and see a movie, or visit some RL friends - or maybe - just maybe - clean up the room(s) of your kid(s), or your own ?
ROFLMAO!
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Cpt Jericho
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Flag Bravo CCP are Icelandic and don't even know what USD are, their currency is in penguins.
Lol for real, the Icelandic currency is ISK hehehe
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