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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 11:51:58 Hello,
I am looking at fighter drones. They all look good! I then put numbers of fighter tracking and optimal into Eve online tracting calculater, since Templar, the fighter drone of Amarr Carriers, is supposd to be the best. Drones obiting at normal orbit speed. Since I is so strong, people might use cruisers and other smaller sig ships to hit me. So I thought, since all fighters hit those mwding battleships anyway, how do they compare vs some webbed neuted 0 speed ship attacking me? (could be my pro Amarr frig pilots putting 10 webs on a ship and using fighters for the kill for example)
Caldari Fighter drones hit a 100sig target 35% of the time. Templar, Fighter drone of Amarr Carriers, hits a 100sig target 15% of the time.
Now vs some 400 sig battleship, Templar hits around 90%, Caldari hits around 95%. Thats a big increase though.
Now how about something else, say, 200 sig? Templer hits around 64% Caldari hits around 77%
Basically, the Templar, the Amarrian fighter drone used by Amarrian carriers, is pretty crappy doing less than half damage vs smaller targets (100 sig) and a good chunk less damage on all others.
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Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:01:00 -
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what did the main get banned?
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mentalmonkey
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: mentalmonkey on 20/02/2008 12:05:21
Originally by: Shardrael what did the main get banned?
lol hope not.
Also sorry Jonny but although the Templar is an Amarrian fighter it is not necessarily used by Amarrian carriers
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Cpt Branko
Surge. Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:07:00 -
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That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
Also, carriers can and do use a mix of drones, given they get bonuses for them in general, and not specific types.
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Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: mentalmonkey Edited by: mentalmonkey on 20/02/2008 12:05:21
Originally by: Shardrael what did the main get banned?
lol hope not.
Also sorry Jonny but although the Templar is an Amarrian fighter it is not necessarily used by Amarrian carriers
why not? I got more of em in my gal carrier then anything, may not be the best dps by .015% or something but they wreak absolute havoc on unresisted shields and shield tanked ships, which helps net me top dmg on alot of kills, especially cap kills :) and that makes the templar A ok in my book
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 12:20:10 Shield tanked ships usually have em as second highest resist, therefore caldari drones are better.
Kinetic cis usually a lower resist than Em on Armour tanked ships, therefore caldari dones are better.
Vs Sig radious, Caldari drones are better due to over double damage vs 100sig targets for example.
So since this thread is full of trolls, do you agree that it is fair that Amarr Fighters are crapper than Caldari ones? Surely, it is obvios something is wrong with Templars, the fighter drone........
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Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:51:00 -
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Lol....
Honestly...
Get a Job...
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0raven0
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:29:00 -
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Johnny I am 100% specced in amarr. I don't think you understand carriers. An amarr carrier is what you should compare to other carriers, not the fighter types because no carrier gets a bonus to any specific fighter type. People use templars just as much as other fighter types. ------
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Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Waxau on 20/02/2008 13:34:06
Originally by: 0raven0 Johnny I am 100% specced in amarr. I don't think you understand carriers. An amarr carrier is what you should compare to other carriers, not the fighter types because no carrier gets a bonus to any specific fighter type. People use templars just as much as other fighter types.
Honestly - Do you know nothing? Jojo's got high resistances to Logic. Use something more effective. Like spamming your point of view like a nub, and ignore any and all arguements posted by other people.
You could try something like
"Lololol haha caldari suxxor!! We need no cap usage on our guns, so we can passive tank better!! All other ships are like...No where near as good, and yeah. Boost Caldari, and nerf all others, or else i spam more!!! SPAM!!!"
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:36:00 -
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While we are at the point...
Nerf amarr caps and supercaps, there overpowered without doubt, and because i say so it is so (jonny style).
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Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:39:00 -
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Oh! No, infact im going to hop on Jojos wagon.
Amarr ARE overpowered. Check this out!
Linkage
As you can see, it has no relevance what so ever, but voldemort wins - So thus...Overpowered!!!!
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau Oh! No, infact im going to hop on Jojos wagon.
Amarr ARE overpowered. Check this out!
Linkage
As you can see, it has no relevance what so ever, but voldemort wins - So thus...Overpowered!!!!
Omg your bored as well huh waxau?
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FawKa
Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom
Originally by: Waxau Oh! No, infact im going to hop on Jojos wagon.
Amarr ARE overpowered. Check this out!
Linkage
As you can see, it has no relevance what so ever, but voldemort wins - So thus...Overpowered!!!!
Omg your bored as well huh waxau?
It fits in just perfect in a Jonny MoJo thread  hahaha

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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.02.20 13:57:00 -
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Dude, enough.
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.20 14:01:00 -
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/facepalm
/headdesk ---
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 14:22:00 -
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Hey Cpt Branko thanks for my new sig * ** *** Sig!
Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
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Posted - 2008.02.20 14:29:00 -
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Ah, JoJo. Putting the S&M into Ships and Modules.... -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |

Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: 0raven0 Johnny I am 100% specced in amarr. I don't think you understand carriers. An amarr carrier is what you should compare to other carriers, not the fighter types because no carrier gets a bonus to any specific fighter type. People use templars just as much as other fighter types.
Thank you for your kind reply. I take it that the imbalances in weapons of damage for a ship is irrelevant, because the ship itslef is ok?
So if templar did 0.00001 damage due to a obvious game bug, it is acceptable because you can use other weapons of damage such as other fighter drones?
Nobody has answer the question of logic - why are these fighters different when there are ment to be the same? Something is wrong here.
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Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.20 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Originally by: 0raven0 Johnny I am 100% specced in amarr. I don't think you understand carriers. An amarr carrier is what you should compare to other carriers, not the fighter types because no carrier gets a bonus to any specific fighter type. People use templars just as much as other fighter types.
Thank you for your kind reply. I take it that the imbalances in weapons of damage for a ship is irrelevant, because the ship itslef is ok?
So if templar did 0.00001 damage due to a obvious game bug, it is acceptable because you can use other weapons of damage such as other fighter drones?
Nobody has answer the question of logic - why are these fighters different when there are ment to be the same? Something is wrong here.
Lol @ The logic arguement. All of your arguements are void of logic, so please - Dont argue that point with us. You've already lost.
As for the whole 'why are these fighters different when there are ment to be the same? Something is wrong here.'
...Where did you read they were meant to be the same? Lol. The differences are called VARIATION. Theres equllibrium between the two factors of Variation and Balance. More of one, means less of the other. One without the other isnt a good quality, and thus...theyre fine how they are. Can i point out, you're the FIRST person to whine about them (What a supprise eh?). Thus, they have been balanced in the past. You stating your invalid, and unsupported arguement doesnt make them unbalanced.
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 15:23:38
Originally by: Waxau
Lol @ The logic arguement. All of your arguements are void of logic, so please - Dont argue that point with us. You've already lost.
As for the whole 'why are these fighters different when there are ment to be the same? Something is wrong here.'
...Where did you read they were meant to be the same? Lol. The differences are called VARIATION. Theres equllibrium between the two factors of Variation and Balance. More of one, means less of the other. One without the other isnt a good quality, and thus...theyre fine how they are. Can i point out, you're the FIRST person to whine about them (What a supprise eh?). Thus, they have been balanced in the past. You stating your invalid, and unsupported arguement doesnt make them unbalanced.
You are a very rude person. I did my maths and I worked the reason why
CCP messed up orbiting ranges on Fighter
The fighers are all fine - looks like CCP messed up orbiting range thus destroying the tracking calculation. Therefore its a bug.
LOL at the trolls in this thread - you all just OWNED yourself
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Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 15:23:38
Originally by: Waxau
Lol @ The logic arguement. All of your arguements are void of logic, so please - Dont argue that point with us. You've already lost.
As for the whole 'why are these fighters different when there are ment to be the same? Something is wrong here.'
...Where did you read they were meant to be the same? Lol. The differences are called VARIATION. Theres equllibrium between the two factors of Variation and Balance. More of one, means less of the other. One without the other isnt a good quality, and thus...theyre fine how they are. Can i point out, you're the FIRST person to whine about them (What a supprise eh?). Thus, they have been balanced in the past. You stating your invalid, and unsupported arguement doesnt make them unbalanced.
You are a very rude person. I did my maths and I worked the reason why
CCP messed up orbiting ranges on Fighter
The fighers are all fine - looks like CCP messed up orbiting range thus destroying the tracking calculation. Therefore its a bug.
LOL at the trolls in this thread - you all just OWNED yourself
Lol - So you PERSONALLY have found the numbers, worked out their wrong, and havent even HEARD anything CCP have said...but have come to the conclusion that theyre wrong (even tho its their game) and that you're right.
Orbitting ranges are not screwed. If you paid attention, Caldari have a wider orbit range/optimal. Therefore, the tracking is better.
Please...if you're going to whine...make it something others care about, ccp care about, and post with a character that has a slight amount of respect on these forums 
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau
Originally by: Jonny MoJo Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 15:23:38
Originally by: Waxau
Lol @ The logic arguement. All of your arguements are void of logic, so please - Dont argue that point with us. You've already lost.
As for the whole 'why are these fighters different when there are ment to be the same? Something is wrong here.'
...Where did you read they were meant to be the same? Lol. The differences are called VARIATION. Theres equllibrium between the two factors of Variation and Balance. More of one, means less of the other. One without the other isnt a good quality, and thus...theyre fine how they are. Can i point out, you're the FIRST person to whine about them (What a supprise eh?). Thus, they have been balanced in the past. You stating your invalid, and unsupported arguement doesnt make them unbalanced.
You are a very rude person. I did my maths and I worked the reason why
CCP messed up orbiting ranges on Fighter
The fighers are all fine - looks like CCP messed up orbiting range thus destroying the tracking calculation. Therefore its a bug.
LOL at the trolls in this thread - you all just OWNED yourself
Lol - So you PERSONALLY have found the numbers, worked out their wrong, and havent even HEARD anything CCP have said...but have come to the conclusion that theyre wrong (even tho its their game) and that you're right.
Orbitting ranges are not screwed. If you paid attention, Caldari have a wider orbit range/optimal. Therefore, the tracking is better.
Please...if you're going to whine...make it something others care about, ccp care about, and post with a character that has a slight amount of respect on these forums 
Known Bug - test server. Thats how I found out about it. Welcome to the honey trap troll.
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Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:51:00 -
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Lol - So you found it out on SiSi? How does that make it a bug?
All you've stated is that most of the time, dragonflies do more damage than templars.
OHNOZTHESKIIZFALLINGZ!
Oh wait no - Its Jojo whining.
Go on - Now call what i said 'epic' and laugh at people shooting down your arguements.
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau Lol - So you found it out on SiSi? How does that make it a bug?
All you've stated is that most of the time, dragonflies do more damage than templars.
OHNOZTHESKIIZFALLINGZ!
Oh wait no - Its Jojo whining.
Go on - Now call what i said 'epic' and laugh at people shooting down your arguements.
Come on man, you guys are anti whatever I say. If I was to say "why did my boot.ini get deleted", you would trun around and say thats part of the game and not a bug.
So I thought I would make a list of the morons in eve pulic. Gentlemen, it is every poster who has not given any constructive argument in this thread - i.e pretty much everyone.
Please, I need more lol.
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.20 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 15:48:47 Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 15:47:42
Originally by: Waxau Lol - So you PERSONALLY have found the numbers, worked out their wrong, and havent even HEARD anything CCP have said...but have come to the conclusion that theyre wrong (even tho its their game) and that you're right.
Orbitting ranges are not screwed. If you paid attention, Caldari have a wider orbit range/optimal. Therefore, the tracking is better.
Please...if you're going to whine...make it something others care about, ccp care about, and post with a character that has a slight amount of respect on these forums 
Known Bug - test server. Thats how I found out about it. Welcome to the honey trap troll.
You guys must all look like fools, thinking known game bugs are meant to be like that. Man this is a facepalm moment for every one of you in this thread. Next you will be saying boot.ini being deleted is actually part of a game and not a bug. LOL
Epic LOL
so this is a bug in the test server...
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Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 15:48:47 Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 15:47:42
Originally by: Waxau Lol - So you PERSONALLY have found the numbers, worked out their wrong, and havent even HEARD anything CCP have said...but have come to the conclusion that theyre wrong (even tho its their game) and that you're right.
Orbitting ranges are not screwed. If you paid attention, Caldari have a wider orbit range/optimal. Therefore, the tracking is better.
Please...if you're going to whine...make it something others care about, ccp care about, and post with a character that has a slight amount of respect on these forums 
Known Bug - test server. Thats how I found out about it. Welcome to the honey trap troll.
You guys must all look like fools, thinking known game bugs are meant to be like that. Man this is a facepalm moment for every one of you in this thread. Next you will be saying boot.ini being deleted is actually part of a game and not a bug. LOL
Epic LOL
I actually found the whole 'Known bug' part rather comical. Might i point you attention here: known Issues
I see no such mention there. So by you saying 'Known issue', what you actually mean is:
"I found something i dont like, and as such, will claim it to be a bug".
So i shall join you boat (you wont know this, as you dont fly capitals btw).
Fighters orbit outside scoop range. Its a bug. Fix it.
Oh wait no - Thats part of the game.... Bar from that last bit btw, theres alot of sarcasm in my post. Please take note of it.
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 16:19:08
Originally by: Grimpak so this is a bug in the test server...
...right, what does it have to do with TQ?
Because the bug is in tq. Go ask a bug hunter, since they dont list the 1000+ bugs they are looking at on the forums. I mean, Trinity had something like 800 bug fix's recently, most of them small things that dont get documented for posting in forums.
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Imaos
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 15:48:47 Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 15:47:42
Originally by: Waxau Lol - So you PERSONALLY have found the numbers, worked out their wrong, and havent even HEARD anything CCP have said...but have come to the conclusion that theyre wrong (even tho its their game) and that you're right.
Orbitting ranges are not screwed. If you paid attention, Caldari have a wider orbit range/optimal. Therefore, the tracking is better.
Please...if you're going to whine...make it something others care about, ccp care about, and post with a character that has a slight amount of respect on these forums 
Known Bug - test server. Thats how I found out about it. Welcome to the honey trap troll.
You guys must all look like fools, thinking known game bugs are meant to be like that. Man this is a facepalm moment for every one of you in this thread. Next you will be saying boot.ini being deleted is actually part of a game and not a bug. LOL
Epic LOL
Jonny. Get a life. Or death. Doesn't really matter. You trolled so much on this forum that even if you bring up something worthwhile nobody cares. Enjoy your e-peen you got from this thread. It is so sad. You are still a troll even if you baited a lot of people. That's how it always works.
Hope you are young enough to still be able to grow up.
Imaos ------------------------------------------
Originally by: NoNah
My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
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Jonny MoJo
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Imaos Jonny. Get a life. Or death. Doesn't really matter. You trolled so much on this forum that even if you bring up something worthwhile nobody cares. Enjoy your e-peen you got from this thread. It is so sad. You are still a troll even if you baited a lot of people. That's how it always works.
Hope you are young enough to still be able to grow up.
Imaos
If people would constructivly discuss my posts, then people embarrasing themselves would not have happened. It is people who troll my posts that made themselvs look silly.
However, this thread has run its course.
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MrTits
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:26:00 -
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Im not one for conspiracy theorys but here goes:
Could Jonny Jojo be an avatar created by the devs that argues the amarr boost point so unbelievebly irrationally and stuidly that other amarr whiners feel they need to stop to disassociate themselves from him? If so this has certainly done its job as there are no more amarr need a boost threads laying around SandM, while I feel, overall lasers still do ever so slightly along with the fitting on the zealot/omen.
I may just be being extreamly parranoid here but what other reason would one person argue the same unstructured, unlogical point over and over and over, knowing full well it will not get anywhere as everyone hates/loaths/dispises him and the stupid threads. It may also be some other player that is fed up with the whines but all I can see the threads doing is derailing the whole move for an amarrian boost.
Anyone else feel the same way? 
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Imaos
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Posted - 2008.02.20 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Come on man, you guys are anti whatever I say.
You wonder why? Might have something to do with your posting history. If you want to do some constructive posts you should dump that burned char for postings. Posting items from the bug database doesn't make for constructive posts either. So don't blame the people who started to bash you here as you started the thread for this sole purpose.
Originally by: Jonny MoJo
If I was to say "why did my boot.ini get deleted", you would trun around and say thats part of the game and not a bug.
The boot.ini desaster seems to be your favorite bug. I personally wondered why it affected so many people (I would never install a windows that way) and why the microsoft tools didn't spot the missing character. I think if something is to blame for the boot.ini desaster it is the syntax check that didn't issue a warning.
Originally by: Jonny MoJo
So I thought I would make a list of the morons in eve pulic. Gentlemen, it is every poster who has not given any constructive argument in this thread - i.e pretty much everyone.
I guess it is up to you to decide which post is constructive as always. There is just one problem: Not only morons can be unconstructive and I guess you'll never include yourself on that list.
I really wish we could vote posts up and down or just filter posts with lol, rofl, etc or by poster.
Imaos ------------------------------------------
Originally by: NoNah
My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.02.20 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo
So I thought I would make a list of the morons in eve pulic. Gentlemen, it is every poster who has not given any constructive argument in this thread - i.e pretty much everyone.
Please, I need more lol.
Oooh.
Ooh.
Can I be on your list please?
I would be so proud to be an official Jonny JoJo moron.
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Originally by: 0raven0 Johnny I am 100% specced in amarr. I don't think you understand carriers. An amarr carrier is what you should compare to other carriers, not the fighter types because no carrier gets a bonus to any specific fighter type. People use templars just as much as other fighter types.
Thank you for your kind reply. I take it that the imbalances in weapons of damage for a ship is irrelevant, because the ship itslef is ok?
So if templar did 0.00001 damage due to a obvious game bug, it is acceptable because you can use other weapons of damage such as other fighter drones?
Nobody has answer the question of logic - why are these fighters different when there are ment to be the same? Something is wrong here.
Nobody ever mentioned they where ment to be the same, there not so stop whining! * ** *** Sig!
Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo
Originally by: Imaos Jonny. Get a life. Or death. Doesn't really matter. You trolled so much on this forum that even if you bring up something worthwhile nobody cares. Enjoy your e-peen you got from this thread. It is so sad. You are still a troll even if you baited a lot of people. That's how it always works.
Hope you are young enough to still be able to grow up.
Imaos
If people would constructivly discuss my posts, then people embarrasing themselves would not have happened. It is people who troll my posts that made themselvs look silly.
However, this thread has run its course.
yeah, but too bad for you, you started trolling, you have been trolling and you always will be trolling. Nobody cares about what you say anymore, maybe because you made it that way yourself? I really wonder how long it takes before this thread gets locked or just dies *again* like all of your fail posts! Cmon make me laugh moar little kiddie! * ** *** Sig!
Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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Perry
Amarr The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.02.20 17:53:00 -
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I agree, Op is a troll and clearly doesnt sees the logic behind ccp's thoughts:
-Amarr Scout Drone: Crap -Amarr Medium Drone: Crap -Amarr Heavy Drone: Crap -Amarr Fighter: Crap
So its perfectly in line and well balanced with the other amarr drones. Now nerf the Amarr Sentry, its clearly overpowered compared to other amarr drones!
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Doctor Sunshine
Irata III Trek Alliance Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.02.20 17:54:00 -
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Especially when you don't even HAVE a carrier.
Wait what?
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.02.20 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 16:19:08
Originally by: Grimpak so this is a bug in the test server...
...right, what does it have to do with TQ?
Because the bug is in tq. Go ask a bug hunter, since they dont list the 1000+ bugs they are looking at on the forums. I mean, Trinity had something like 800 bug fix's recently, most of them small things that dont get documented for posting in forums.
I've been hit by all kinds of drones from T1 goblins to firbolgs, and I can say that, while the light, medium and heavy EM drone line is not great, all 4 fighters hit hard.
oh yes they hit.
so untill you be either on the receiving end of a full wing of fighters incoming from a carrier or you drive one, either skill up for one or l2p.
furthermore, I am tired of looking at the issues page and at this very forum and whatsoever, and the only thread that talks about such issue is yours.
but then again, since you consider the no-usage of cap by projectiles a bug, I guess your reasoning goes out of the window. ---
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Tubiger
Koshaku Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.20 19:09:00 -
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You know, I get the feeling that this isn't actually the same Jojo we came to know and hate before - this one just doesn't seem the same.
I could be wrong, but I think this is someone else who enjoys messing with people 
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kor anon
Amarr Keepers of the Holy Bagel Darkness Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.20 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny MoJo Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 20/02/2008 11:58:39 Hello,
I am looking at fighter drones. They all look good! I then put numbers of fighter tracking and optimal into Eve online tracting calculater, since Templar, the fighter drone of Amarr Carriers, is supposd to be the best. Drones obiting at normal orbit speed. Since I is so strong, people might use cruisers and other smaller sig ships to hit me. So I thought, since all fighters hit those mwding battleships anyway, how do they compare vs some webbed neuted 0 speed ship attacking me? (could be my pro Amarr frig pilots putting 10 webs on a ship and using fighters for the kill for example)
Caldari Fighter drones hit a 100sig target 35% of the time. Templar, Fighter drone of Amarr Carriers, hits a 100sig target 15% of the time.
Now vs some 400 sig battleship, Templar hits around 90%, Caldari hits around 95%. Thats a big increase though.
Now how about something else, say, 200 sig? Templer hits around 64% Caldari hits around 77%
Basically, the Templar, the Amarrian fighter drone used by Amarrian carriers, is pretty crappy doing less than half damage vs smaller targets (100 sig) and a good chunk less damage on all others.
hmm i see where your coming from, u make a good point and explained it quite clearly, however u forgot to take into account certain factors, the main one being, no one gives a sh*t
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CCP Mitnal

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Posted - 2008.02.21 01:42:00 -
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One troll after another.
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