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Jin Chandra	Posted - 2008.02.20 15:30:00 - [1] Anyone has an idea why the implant Prices (+3 and +4) are exploding drastically over the last week? Id bought a lot over the last month for around 7-8mill per basic and 17-18 for the standard. Now prices increased within a week for basics for nearly 50% and standards nearly 40%...
Timmy MacChang	Posted - 2008.02.20 15:49:00 - [2] because spring break is COMING!!1
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.20 16:11:00 - [3] Because I'd just given up on it ever happening and sold all my stock. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2008.02.20 17:31:00 - [4] Because EVE IS DYING, but just in case it ever gets fixed, people are TRAINING WHILE THEY CANCEL THEIR ACCOUNTS! Needless to say, EVERYBODY PANIC! MP -- Proud steward of 47 billion isk in public money, and counting. Ask me about mineral ~~compression~~expansion! WTF?
YouGotRipped Gallente Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.02.20 17:50:00 - [5] Originally by: Ambo Because I'd just given up on it ever happening and sold all my stock. lol High number of new players? Manipulation? I incline to pick the first.
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.20 18:22:00 - [6] Originally by: YouGotRipped Originally by: Ambo Because I'd just given up on it ever happening and sold all my stock. lol High number of new players? Manipulation? I incline to pick the first. bzzzzzzz, wrong answer. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.02.20 19:10:00 - [7] Whoa, farmers no longer getting implants as mission rewards ? What the hell are they doing now for extra cash, I wonder... 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.20 19:18:00 - [8] Originally by: Akita T What the hell are they doing now for extra cash, I wonder... Selling Nexus Chips........ :P~~ --
Takimi Star	Posted - 2008.02.20 19:51:00 - [9] what is the deal with the large number of manipulation posts lately?
cosmoray	Posted - 2008.02.20 19:54:00 - [10] I saw lots of the well known manipulators buying up large amounts of implants. Better get in quick if you want to make a few iskies. I saw that dutch tulips were going up also. buy, buy, buy!
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.20 20:13:00 - [11] Prices are going to drop quickly, nothing to see here. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.02.20 23:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Treelox Originally by: Akita T What the hell are they doing now for extra cash, I wonder... Selling Nexus Chips Good one 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.21 00:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Treelox Originally by: Akita T What the hell are they doing now for extra cash, I wonder... Selling Nexus Chips Good one I am to please --
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.21 00:39:00 - [14] Originally by: Treelox Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Treelox Originally by: Akita T What the hell are they doing now for extra cash, I wonder... Selling Nexus Chips Good one I am to please First half of an analogy? Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Danari Amarr Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.21 00:39:00 - [15] Originally by: Treelox I am to please Looks like your am is a little off
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.21 00:56:00 - [16] lol, but it is true "I am to please" i think its time to stick the keyboard in the dishwasher again. Been having problems with keys sticking and some not depressing correctly and consistantly. --
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.21 00:59:00 - [17] Edited by: Shadarle on 21/02/2008 00:59:26 Originally by: Treelox Been having problems with keys sticking and some not depressing correctly and consistantly. It looks like your am is off in multiple ways then Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Grozen Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.02.21 05:24:00 - [18] nice manipulation.thx for alerting us. knowledge is power
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.21 06:53:00 - [19] Edited by: Shadarle on 21/02/2008 06:55:32 People seriously think it's manipulation? They are LP store items, you can't manipulate them for more than a few hours or a day at best, definitely not multi-region like has been done. People can replace them in massive numbers basically at the drop of a hat. Unless of course there is something else going on... as I said there was a few months ago. Perhaps someone will go searching to figure out what I'm talking about. I will only say that I've never made so much money in my time in EVE. I'm at a higher monthly RoR than I had been for nearly a year and I was doing quite well back then. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
No Mahd	Posted - 2008.02.21 10:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Jin Chandra Anyone has an idea why the implant Prices (+3 and +4) are exploding drastically over the last week? Id bought a lot over the last month for around 7-8mill per basic and 17-18 for the standard. Now prices increased within a week for basics for nearly 50% and standards nearly 40%... Maybe you would like to tell me what region you are in cos where I am the market is flooded and prices have dropped.
Jin Chandra	Posted - 2008.02.21 22:45:00 - [21] Originally by: No Mahd Maybe you would like to tell me what region you are in cos where I am the market is flooded and prices have dropped. Id checked Jita, Rens, Oursalert and Amarr, all the same
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.02.21 23:35:00 - [22] Originally by: Jin Chandra Originally by: No Mahd Maybe you would like to tell me what region you are in cos where I am the market is flooded and prices have dropped. Id checked Jita, Rens, Oursalert and Amarr, all the same Then the sky, it is a truely falling..... --
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.02.21 23:50:00 - [23] Originally by: Shadarle They are LP store items, you can't manipulate them for more than a few hours or a day at best, definitely not multi-region like has been done. This They have just come back in line with what they should have been. I am guessing that someone flooded the market a few months back and it has taken this long for the supply to burn off. As prices rise people will begin supplying them again as previously they were no were near worth what their LP value should have them at.
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.22 00:42:00 - [24] Originally by: Matalino I am guessing that someone flooded the market a few months back and it has taken this long for the supply to burn off. This is the only part that isn't very accurate. It was no one or two people who did this, it was a massive number of people doing it unwittingly. Anyone who realized this could have built up hundreds of implants and then sold them after the price rise. It would have been worth billions upon billions... say 20+... just speculating of course... Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2008.02.22 03:06:00 - [25] Originally by: Shadarle Originally by: Matalino I am guessing that someone flooded the market a few months back and it has taken this long for the supply to burn off. This is the only part that isn't very accurate. It was no one or two people who did this, it was a massive number of people doing it unwittingly. Anyone who realized this could have built up hundreds of implants and then sold them after the price rise. It would have been worth billions upon billions... say 20+... just speculating of course... Sorry, Shadarle, I didn't get clue off of that (perhaps because I was absent before Trinity). What changed in the supply of these implants over the past three months? Were a lot of these box prizes for a large number of research alts' standings runs? Did storylines change?
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.22 03:12:00 - [26] Originally by: Tasko Pal Originally by: Shadarle Originally by: Matalino I am guessing that someone flooded the market a few months back and it has taken this long for the supply to burn off. This is the only part that isn't very accurate. It was no one or two people who did this, it was a massive number of people doing it unwittingly. Anyone who realized this could have built up hundreds of implants and then sold them after the price rise. It would have been worth billions upon billions... say 20+... just speculating of course... Sorry, Shadarle, I didn't get clue off of that (perhaps because I was absent before Trinity). What changed in the supply of these implants over the past three months? Were a lot of these box prizes for a large number of research alts' standings runs? Did storylines change? I made a rather detailed post about it a while back, it's really too detailed to go through again. In summary, lots of old players came back for the new graphics and there was the LP store for them to use up all their LP's. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Motivated Prophet Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2008.02.22 04:07:00 - [27] They wouldn't magically just poof run out of implants to sell, Shad. The price would have drifted up over time. Sorry, I'm calling bull** on this one unless you have more supporting evidence or some twist to the story you haven't revealed. MP -- Proud steward of 47 billion isk in public money, and counting. Ask me about mineral ~~compression~~expansion! WTF?**
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company	Posted - 2008.02.22 07:47:00 - [28] It was me. I'm the implant hogger in the OP. It started out with +1s, then +3s, and now +5s ... and then multiple sets ... and oh god, it's an addiction and I can't stop. Help me, please someone help me sobs
Aldelphius Carbide Industries	Posted - 2008.02.23 02:00:00 - [29] Originally by: Motivated Prophet They wouldn't magically just poof run out of implants to sell, Shad. The price would have drifted up over time. Sorry, I'm calling bull**** on this one unless you have more supporting evidence or some twist to the story you haven't revealed. MP I would say the +5 market has taken a rather drastic upswing in the forge, especially social, intel, and perc. probably more due to a lack of supply than increase in demand, as the volume/day has gone down as well. Honsetly this shoud have been expected, seeing as +5's were selling for 10-20m over cost, making lp's 100-200 isk each.
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.23 03:14:00 - [30] Originally by: Motivated Prophet They wouldn't magically just poof run out of implants to sell, Shad. The price would have drifted up over time. Sorry, I'm calling bull**** on this one unless you have more supporting evidence or some twist to the story you haven't revealed. MP They didn't just magically "poof" run out of implants. It slowly happened, but the supply was so massive that it didn't show up to most people. Some people were slowly stockpiling because they saw a trend. As people ran out of LP's and the market went from having thousands of implants to hundreds some enterprising individual went around and bought up all of them. Prices jumped, so some people who stockpiled unloaded their goods which forced prices down a bit again... but then that persons stockpile ran out, so then prices jumped again... and more stockpilers unloaded. This process went on for a while, we're not at the stage where almost every stockpiler has run out of goods and yet demand is still far higher than supply. More and more people are trying to supply them through LP (which are now worth 2-3 times more than they were a month ago). It's an interesting situation. Made quite profitable as I was one of those enterprising individuals. What's the most interesting is that people are still manipulating some of the markets... which is really cool for me. Every time the prices go down they go back up a day later, so it's become a major windfall. But the major point is that the prices would have never been so low if all the old timers hadn't come back and crashed the prices when the new graphics was launched. Once those old timers realized they should get more than 300isk per lp the prices have jumped... slowly they will dip again to around the 1000 isk/lp, at least until enough people start running missions again and force prices downward. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained

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