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Niama
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.02.21 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: Niama on 21/02/2008 09:28:51
I was wondering if missioning in low sec is actually possible.
I want to mission in a 0.2 system and I know there would be people trying to probe me out. Now the question is:
I can mission in an ishtar or raven.
Does missioning in an ishtar reduce the chance for them to find me by any meaningful margin (i think signature radius matters in probings, or is it sensor strenght) ?
Is there a way to make me safer while im in a mission ?
for example, is it worth it fitting WCs ?
Does an ECCM module reduce the chance for the enemy to probe you ?
Many questions , but at the moment I see missioning in low sec as useless unless you are lucky and you are in a totally friendly or empty low sec sytem.
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dreddish
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Posted - 2008.02.21 09:43:00 -
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i,m new to missions - but i would not consider that. sounds foolhardy.
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pinklol
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Posted - 2008.02.21 10:49:00 -
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Staying alive is pretty easy.
If you have to go to another system for a mission, use scout(s).
Once inside the mission:
- Open up the scanner and untick the overview settings box.
- Hit scan often and look for scan probes in the results.
- If you see a scan probe on the scanner some one is likely trying to probe you.
Avoid using drones where ever you can as I am pretty sure they increase the chance of you being found. (low sensor strength).
Also - be careful in encounter missions since scanning people down when they are not in deadspace is a simple matter  |
Niama
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.02.21 11:11:00 -
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 Originally by: pinklol
Staying alive is pretty easy.
If you have to go to another system for a mission, use scout(s).
Once inside the mission:
- Open up the scanner and untick the overview settings box.
- Hit scan often and look for scan probes in the results.
- If you see a scan probe on the scanner some one is likely trying to probe you.
Avoid using drones where ever you can as I am pretty sure they increase the chance of you being found. (low sensor strength).
Also - be careful in encounter missions since scanning people down when they are not in deadspace is a simple matter
I dont understand the sensor strenghth and probing connection. What that has to do with drones (and it affects me because i want to fly an ishtar which is an drone boat)
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
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Posted - 2008.02.21 11:18:00 -
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You'll have to do some forum searching to find the exact impact of drones on probe results. I can't remember what it is now because it's changed a couple of times. The mechanism is unimportant, the result isn't - if you are using drones, you're easier to probe out.
There's lots of tricks for safe low-sec mission running, but I think the most important thing to bear in mind is location, location, location. There are good agents in low-sec systems where the locals are friendly and don't like pirates crashing the party. On the other hand, there are good agents in low-sec systems that are full of pirates. Spend some time looking for the right system and you'll be safe. Ish.
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Iracham
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.21 11:28:00 -
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Your effective signature strength is derived from your signature radius divided by your sensor strength (higher sensor strength and/or lower signature radius makes you harder to probe)
Downside is that the lower signature on the Ishtar is entirely negated by tossing out 5 extra chances to get a probe hit on you.
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Sigul Siento
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Posted - 2008.02.21 11:29:00 -
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A ship using drones is up to 6 targets, each with a chance of being found, as opposed to 1 target if you aren't using drones. N
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Niama
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.02.21 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Iracham
Your effective signature strength is derived from your signature radius divided by your sensor strength (higher sensor strength and/or lower signature radius makes you harder to probe)
Downside is that the lower signature on the Ishtar is entirely negated by tossing out 5 extra chances to get a probe hit on you.
ah i get it.
So a Raven fitted with ECCM is much safer than an ishtar right?
Taken from that, which Ship is better for mission running in low sec? Even raven needs drones to kill small targets
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Dr Saitek
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Posted - 2008.02.21 12:23:00 -
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As you run missions, create safe spots from those mission BMs that are more than 5 au (out of directional scanner range is best ... roughly 15 au) from celestial objects (planets, gates, etc,). Also, set up an intermediate safe spot that you can easily align while on a mission.
Keep both local and your directional scanner open. When you see the first scan probe (especially one of the recon scan probes), align to warp to your intermediate safe spot, then warp to your previously created mission safe spots. If you don't have a cloak, you could warp between safe spots until the pwats give up. Alternatively, fit a cloak. If they can't see you in their directional scanner or scan probe, they will give up the search rather quickly.
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Iracham
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.21 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Niama
So a Raven fitted with ECCM is much safer than an ishtar right?
Taken from that, which Ship is better for mission running in low sec? Even raven needs drones to kill small targets
Don't leave the drones out, release them, pop the frigates, call them back. Obviously not an option on the Ishtar where the drones are 80%+ of your DPS.
Also, when you lose the Raven (or any T1 ship), you'll get enough insurance for another hull, unlike the Ishtar (or any T2/faction ship).
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Rajah Cudlar
Federation Scrap Dealers
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Posted - 2008.02.21 19:09:00 -
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There are low sec mission hubs just as there are high sec mission hubs. Stay away from those and stay away from systems close to high sec and you will find that running missions in low sec is quite fun. If you get out in deeper low sec such as Khanid area, Aridia, etc then you will be pleasantly surprised at how much of what you have heard about low sec in general is bogus. Ease yourself into it by taking a cruiser and picking say a level 2 agent at least 8 or 9 jumps from high sec. You will quickly learn to tell if the other guys in system are running missions too or hunting you or afk. At first you will freak everytime you end up at a gate with someone else or undock at the same time as sometime but quickly you will get over it. Those bestowers at the gate were just going in the same direction as you. The guy undocking in his vexor isn't going to try and tank the station sentry guns to attack your drake. The maller on the scanner isn't scanning down your deadspace area.
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