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halson
Caldari
0-0 Space Squad
Culture Shock Initiative
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:19:00 -
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today i loged on checked my wallet i lost 390mill and it sayed GM reveresed Donation
why did gm take away my isk? the donation was from my friend
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:20:00 -
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Most likely because your friend had bought ISK, or you compensated your friend with out of game currencies.
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Vikarion
Caldari
United Heavens
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:20:00 -
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Did your friend buy ISK?
Most likely he did. Any ISK acquired in such a manner is removed from the game.
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:21:00 -
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Was it really a donation from a friend, or have you been buying ISK illegaly?
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Aurix Lexico
Repo Industries
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:26:00 -
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halson
Caldari
0-0 Space Squad
Culture Shock Initiative
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:28:00 -
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i did not buy any isk my friend in school told me to play eve so i did and he sended me some isk now im like bank rupted what the hell man
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:29:00 -
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I think EVE needs yet another Motto: "Don't trust ANYONE. Even when they're throwing tons of ISK at you."
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Tamia Clant
I think EVE needs yet another Motto: "Don't trust ANYONE. Even when they're throwing tons of ISK at you."
New?
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: halson
i did not buy any isk my friend in school told me to play eve so i did and he sended me some isk now im like bank rupted what the hell man
Better ask your friend how he got that ISK.
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Vikarion
Caldari
United Heavens
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Vikarion on 22/02/2008 00:32:37
Sounds like he tried to help you out with tainted ISK. Shame on him.
If your account is in the negatives, simply re-roll your character. Check out what you'd like to be, and arrange your attributes accordingly. This might actually be a good thing.
If your account isn't in the negatives, start earning money the way you are supposed to. It seems onerous (hard) at first, but it is immensely satisfying when you buy your first battleship or barge.
Or, if you simply must have instant gratification, go sell a couple GTCs. But that's just robbing yourself of a lot of fun. 
EDIT:
Ah, I see you are already selling GTCs. 
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:32:00 -
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Check to see if your "friend" is still able to play using the character he sent you ISK from.
If you "friend" is no longer able to play because he was busted for EULA violation, there in rests your answer.
If your friend is still playing, then ask the GM why the transaction was voided.
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Technovar
Gallente
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: halson
i did not buy any isk my friend in school told me to play eve so i did and he sended me some isk now im like bank rupted what the hell man
Your "friend" bought ISK, most likely. That's just sad of him, in that there's a EULA-legal way to convert cash to ISK through GTC sales. It's too bad your "friend" shafted you with it, but 390M isn't too deep a hole to dig yourself out of. It will just suck for a while. I'd suggest starting an alt and joining a good corp. I can recommend E-UNI, of course - it might help you avoid making basic mistakes like accepting bought ISK.
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Ridley Tree
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:55:00 -
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Not to stop the 'your friend bought isk parade' but lets assume for a moment that both parties are innocent.
Up and sending 390 million isk to a new character not connected to your account who is about ~ 3 months old could look like washing the isk to make it sellable, or it looks like someone may have bought isk. It could have been reversed for that reason.
However assuming its two different parties, and it wasn't sent simply to 'wash' it. There is no reason to strip the money from Halson even if it was sold isk anyway. If I bought isk, used it to purchase ~1 bil on the market, and then sold all of the items. Are the GMs going to reverse every single transaction? Not a chance in hell. If I bought a ship and gave it to someone is the GM going to dock that person market price for the ship? Not a chance. If I buy 1 billion isk, and gave 300 mil to a mate to help him because he just lost his three ratting ships are the GMs going to dock him the isk? Yes? Well why?
Unless the GMs have reason to believe Halson is just another alt of the guy who bought isk I do not see any reason for why they should have docked him the money. And if they do believe he is simply an alt and he can prove that he's not they should reset his balance to at least the 5,000 isk starting inheritance.
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.22 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ridley Tree
Not to stop the 'your friend bought isk parade' but lets assume for a moment that both parties are innocent.
If the transaction was illegal, the account sending the ISK should have been banned, as there should be no second chances for ISK laundering.
If your friends account was not banned completely for laundering ISK, the ISK should have been deducted from his account not yours.
The ISK should be removed from the first "real" account that it is transfered to.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2008.02.22 01:04:00 -
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Sounds Familiar
Seriously, CCP do not remove isk for no good reason.
Maybe you're completely unaware, maybe your friend is lying to you, maybe your friend is unaware and acquired the isk from someone who lied to them about it's source. Regardless, it's justified. I suggest you read that thread before trying to say it's not.
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halson
Caldari
0-0 Space Squad
Culture Shock Initiative
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Posted - 2008.02.22 01:13:00 -
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k thanks for the help i guess i have to make some money then lol
can anyone teach me to make some fast isk?
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Ammoina
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.02.22 01:20:00 -
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In your situation with a negative account the only way to raise it is to mission or kill 0.0 rats I believe. You can't pay any of the market transaction fees.
Or buy some GTCs and sell those. :shrug: I think you can do that with no transaction fee. If it requires a transaction fee, designate the GTCs to a noob-alt who has a positive balance and then send the isk to your main to correct the account balance issue.
If you really have no connection to the isk laundering, file a petition pleading your case as ignorant to the whole thing and pray they set your balance to 0. :shrug:
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.02.22 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ammoina
In your situation with a negative account the only way to raise it is to mission or kill 0.0 rats I believe. You can't pay any of the market transaction fees.
Or buy some GTCs and sell those. :shrug: I think you can do that with no transaction fee. If it requires a transaction fee, designate the GTCs to a noob-alt who has a positive balance and then send the isk to your main to correct the account balance issue.
If you really have no connection to the isk laundering, file a petition pleading your case as ignorant to the whole thing and pray they set your balance to 0. :shrug:
That or beg the community for handouts like some would-be famous pirate once did, forever voiding his claim to fame. Remember kids beggars can be losers.
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xXxAgent OrangexXx
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Posted - 2008.02.22 04:57:00 -
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Edited by: xXxAgent OrangexXx on 22/02/2008 04:58:47
How about just sell all the stuff you bought with the ISK. That should get you somewhere back to where you was.
Edited because I forgot about transaction fees. Create a new alt and send him all your assets. then sell it Thats if you value your character to begin with or you could just keep your assets with a 5k balance.
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Lucas Avignon
Avignon Associates Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.22 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: halson
k thanks for the help i guess i have to make some money then lol
can anyone teach me to make some fast isk?
Are you joking, you just sold over 10 gtc's probably netting over 4bn
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.22 05:36:00 -
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or did you sell a gtc not in the secure method?
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Pugmak
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Posted - 2008.02.22 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: halson
k thanks for the help i guess i have to make some money then lol
can anyone teach me to make some fast isk?
Don't know about being in the negatives, but if you have any cash flow at all, through missions and ratting, just train up to salvage 1.
I've only been playing this game a week or so and I can pull down 10 mil isk a play session just running missions in high sec space and salvaging my kills.
I run missions in batches of 3 (have 3 mission givers at my current home station) and will often pull anywhere from 750k to 1.5m isk per mission cycle just in salvage.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.02.22 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: halson
i did not buy any isk my friend in school told me to play eve so i did and he sended me some isk now im like bank rupted what the hell man
LOLOL
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.22 06:42:00 -
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Does your friend answer to "Wang" or anything that rhymes with or sounds like someone throwing silverware down a flight of stairs? 
Originally by: Avaricia
look a goon lol
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.22 06:44:00 -
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It's me, I'm the GM who took the isk from the wallet of the guy in da OP.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.22 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Does your friend answer to "Wang" or anything that rhymes with or sounds like someone throwing silverware down a flight of stairs?
thats low
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.22 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Does your friend answer to "Wang" or anything that rhymes with or sounds like someone throwing silverware down a flight of stairs?
thats low
it's also funny
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Wadaya
Caldari
Trailerpark Industries
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Posted - 2008.02.22 09:02:00 -
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Why don't you just sell another GTC, looks like you have tons of real life cash to throw away on a game. GM's prob figured you wouldn't even notice.
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Shanur
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.02.22 09:19:00 -
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Actually if he makes an alt to trade for the negative balanced char, it could be done for regular money raising too. That first char now probably has some great mining or missioning equipment so should be able to get lots of goodies and salvage in. Just transfer that to your alt using a GSC deployed by your alt at a safespot(can't contract it across because of the negative balance, can't buy the GSC with your main for the same reason). Have your alt sell the stuff trough the market, and then transfer the isk back trough people and places. If your main needs ammo, have your alt buy it and contract it across. |
Gangus
Minmatar
Matari BackBone
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Posted - 2008.02.22 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Does your friend answer to "Wang" or anything that rhymes with or sounds like someone throwing silverware down a flight of stairs?
thats low
it's also funny
/me chuckles, but so's anyone would notice...
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Forando
Interstellar Cowards
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Posted - 2008.02.22 09:28:00 -
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Edited by: Forando on 22/02/2008 09:28:41
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs
Sounds Familiar
Exactly my thoughts. Need not read more than the last message of that thread.
Enjoy, and fly safe..
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.02.22 09:43:00 -
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The OP has seriously sold a ton of GTCs.
And then some.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.02.22 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 22/02/2008 09:47:19
You probably sold GTCs to an ISK farmer.
Thank you for funding all the ISK spam my alt gets <3
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GM Guard
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Posted - 2008.02.22 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok
It's me, I'm the GM who took the isk from the wallet of the guy in da OP.
Hi everyone.
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, Mr. Barrik Radhok is not a GM and impersonating CCP staff is not allowed. Not even if it is only meant as a joke.
Just a friendly reminder guys. Resume discussions.
Best Regards,
Senior GM Guard
EVE Online Customer Support
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: GM Guard
Hi everyone.
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, Mr. Barrik Radhok is not a GM and impersonating CCP staff is not allowed. Not even if it is only meant as a joke.
Just a friendly reminder guys. Resume discussions.
Best Regards,
Senior GM Guard
EVE Online Customer Support
WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Why do you pop into a thread with huge discussion that is certainly CENTRIC around GMs and have nothing to contribute?
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Karlemgne
Flying Under the Influence
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:10:00 -
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Sounds like you bought isk. Unfortunately, I don't buy the story "my friend gave it to me." Everyone I've ever known who has bought isk has been caught at some point. Strangely, many of them complain and petition based on the excuse you echoed, namely "by friend, cousin, corpmate, brother, dog, small woodland animal gave me the isk."
I don't, unlike most of the people here think that there is anything ontologically horrible about buying isk. I don't buy that *****ing down on isk farming/purchasing is a response to people cheating as the GTC for isk sale is legal, and essentially the same as purchasing currency.
As such you won't get a sanctimonious lecture from me about how awful you are and how great I am. I'm just passing along to you the most likely reason I believe a GM would have removed 390 million isk from your wallet.
Cheers,
-Karlemgne
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Aeleva
Caldari
Hegemonic Core
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:14:00 -
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Personally i trust that the GMs were correct in their descision here. Since they cant actually tell us about what happened it seems pretty pointless to discuss. They wouldnt just randomly go "oh look lets just take this persons isk" so something obviously flagged up that transaction, or your friend got flagged.
Remember kids, buying isk is bad. Buy GTCs instead.
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Kalica Kahn
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: GM Guard
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
It's me, I'm the GM who took the isk from the wallet of the guy in da OP.
Hi everyone.
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, Mr. Barrik Radhok is not a GM and impersonating CCP staff is not allowed. Not even if it is only meant as a joke.
Just a friendly reminder guys. Resume discussions.
Best Regards,
Senior GM Guard
EVE Online Customer Support
Berrik done got called out!
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Kyanzes
Utopian Research I.E.L.
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:37:00 -
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Fortunately you didn't pay for it. So no harm done
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
Damage over Time
Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Why do you pop into a thread with huge discussion that is certainly CENTRIC around GMs and have nothing to contribute?
What 'huge discussion'? Everyone seems to agree the OP either bought isk or was given bought isk.
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Ioci
Gallente
Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:42:00 -
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I must say this thread has me confused..
400 mill?
That's not alot of ISK.. It would be for a nooblet but I gave that away in a tantrum the last time I left Eve. A nice faction fitting would net you double that or more..
Also, 'reveresed Donation'. Have 'your friend' give it to you again? Of course if the account was stolen and being liquidated... |
Bresan Borija
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.02.22 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Bresan Borija on 22/02/2008 10:55:48
Edited by: Bresan Borija on 22/02/2008 10:50:03
Originally by: Ioci
I must say this thread has me confused..
400 mill?
That's not alot of ISK.. It would be for a nooblet but I gave that away in a tantrum the last time I left Eve. A nice faction fitting would net you double that or more..
Also, 'reveresed Donation'. Have 'your friend' give it to you again? Of course if the account was stolen and being liquidated...
400 mil is not alot of isk, but that is all you could give away when you left EVE last time. lol
Leaving a game in a tantrum. Immature gamers that like to make other feel bad by trying to link his statement of 400 loss to that of a noob.
You seem to have knowledge of workings of in-game item sellers for real life currency.
Let me guess you bought faction mods off someone from ebay etc
Is that what you mean you could have gotten more isk?
The op probably got isk from a friend who bought isk.
Either that or was scamming people in inappropriate way?
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.22 11:07:00 -
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GM's rules, they never do anything wrong. Infact, I have obtained few petitions that I tought was impossible but seriously.. they know what they are doing.
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of gold"
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Ioci
Gallente
Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.02.22 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bresan Borija
Edited by: Bresan Borija on 22/02/2008 10:57:57
Originally by: Ioci
I must say this thread has me confused..
400 mill?
That's not alot of ISK.. It would be for a nooblet but I gave that away in a tantrum the last time I left Eve. A nice faction fitting would net you double that or more..
Also, 'reveresed Donation'. Have 'your friend' give it to you again? Of course if the account was stolen and being liquidated...
400 mil is not alot of isk, but that is all you could give away when you left EVE last time. lol
Leaving a game in a tantrum. Immature gamers that like to make other feel bad by trying to link his statement of 400 loss to that of a noob.
Reversed donation meaning someone sent the op isk but GM reversed it so that the isk went back to sender.
You seem to have knowledge of workings of in-game item sellers for real life currency.
Let me guess you bought faction mods off someone from ebay etc
Is that what you mean you could have gotten more isk?
The op probably got isk from a friend who bought isk.
Either that or was scamming people in inappropriate way?
Man, you really took some leaps there, didn't you?
Ioci is small time. I have never felt any different. None of your psychobabble flames answer the original statment. Why can't his friend Give it to him again?
400 mill was what I had in wallet when I left. I recall saying, it was a tantrum? You introduced what to that? I seem to have knowlege of what? Umm, I don't know. Contracts? How the hell did I make light of a loss? Don't flame me jack ass and don't accuse me of being an ebay buyer. I can account for everything I have. I can show kills for every thing I have. I am Ioci ingame, my corp is Ioci Exploration, I don't crawl behind an alt on forums. ****. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.22 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: GM Guard
Hi everyone.
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, Mr. Barrik Radhok is not a GM and impersonating CCP staff is not allowed. Not even if it is only meant as a joke.
Just a friendly reminder guys. Resume discussions.
Best Regards,
Senior GM Guard
EVE Online Customer Support
WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Why do you pop into a thread with huge discussion that is certainly CENTRIC around GMs and have nothing to contribute?
Probably for the same reason you won't tell us why you won't stop beating your wife.
It's a ludicrous accusation with an obvious fact behind it.
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Cotton Tail
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.22 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
The OP has seriously sold a ton of GTCs.
And then some.
Haha for shame.
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Bresan Borija
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.02.22 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Bresan Borija on 22/02/2008 12:07:33
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Bresan Borija
Edited by: Bresan Borija on 22/02/2008 10:57:57
Originally by: Ioci
I must say this thread has me confused..
400 mill?
That's not alot of ISK.. It would be for a nooblet but I gave that away in a tantrum the last time I left Eve. A nice faction fitting would net you double that or more..
Also, 'reveresed Donation'. Have 'your friend' give it to you again? Of course if the account was stolen and being liquidated...
400 mil is not alot of isk, but that is all you could give away when you left EVE last time. lol
Leaving a game in a tantrum. Immature gamers that like to make other feel bad by trying to link his statement of 400 loss to that of a noob.
Reversed donation meaning someone sent the op isk but GM reversed it so that the isk went back to sender.
You seem to have knowledge of workings of in-game item sellers for real life currency.
Let me guess you bought faction mods off someone from ebay etc
Is that what you mean you could have gotten more isk?
The op probably got isk from a friend who bought isk.
Either that or was scamming people in inappropriate way?
Man, you really took some leaps there, didn't you?
Ioci is small time. I have never felt any different. None of your psychobabble flames answer the original statment. Why can't his friend Give it to him again?
400 mill was what I had in wallet when I left. I recall saying, it was a tantrum? You introduced what to that? I seem to have knowlege of what? Umm, I don't know. Contracts? How the hell did I make light of a loss? Don't flame me jack ass and don't accuse me of being an ebay buyer. I can account for everything I have. I can show kills for every thing I have. I am Ioci ingame, my corp is Ioci Exploration, I don't crawl behind an alt on forums. ****.
relax man.
tantrum was what you said. read your own words. its right in there in what I quoted.
Look at how you stated your own words. Many were just writing the op as an isk buyer. Op was claiming to be an isk recipient from a friend. GM reverses transaction and you do not repeat the steps as that would be using up your warning before banning. The op was right in petitioning and felt the need to ask for an opinion from the community. Out of nowhere you bring up the statement "a nice faction fitting would net you double that or more..." which goes along with what people have been suggesting (op being isk buyer/ebay).
I see now about your tantrums
guilty look
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Deja Nay
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.22 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: Deja Nay on 22/02/2008 12:22:43
With all the ISK this guy has aquired with an obvious lack of knowledge in relation to the game I really want to see him wander into low-sec one day for the "Nub fit E-Bayer of the week" award.
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Alty MacAlterson
Alt Corporation
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Posted - 2008.02.22 12:22:00 -
[49]
Originally by: GM Guard
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
It's me, I'm the GM who took the isk from the wallet of the guy in da OP.
Hi everyone.
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, Mr. Barrik Radhok is not a GM and impersonating CCP staff is not allowed. Not even if it is only meant as a joke.
Just a friendly reminder guys. Resume discussions.
Best Regards,
Senior GM Guard
EVE Online Customer Support
it's you, you're the one who can't take a joke by the non-op
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Caiman Graystock
Quantum of Solace
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Posted - 2008.02.22 12:54:00 -
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I can understand a friend maybe giving someone a few million to help them get going, but 390 million? Pull the other one.
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Vikarion
Caldari
United Heavens
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Posted - 2008.02.22 12:57:00 -
[51]
What exactly are you trying to buy with all that ISK, anyway? A GTC-class mothership?
I mean, I can see a GTCNR, but sheesh.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.02.22 13:10:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Vikarion
What exactly are you trying to buy with all that ISK, anyway? A GTC-class mothership?
I mean, I can see a GTCNR, but sheesh.
I can't wait for the killmail.
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Lorna Loot
Caldari
Nox Eternus
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Posted - 2008.02.22 13:18:00 -
[53]
Originally by: GM Guard
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
It's me, I'm the GM who took the isk from the wallet of the guy in da OP.
Hi everyone.
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, Mr. Barrik Radhok is not a GM and impersonating CCP staff is not allowed. Not even if it is only meant as a joke.
Just a friendly reminder guys. Resume discussions.
Best Regards,
Senior GM Guard
EVE Online Customer Support
Shouldn't you be copy and pasting into some petitions rather than posting useless information that everybody already knew?
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CKOZUK
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.22 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: CKOZUK on 22/02/2008 13:31:25
So basically you have been selling Game Time Codes for 390 Mill a pop and then strangely 390 Mill was removed from your account by the GM's..... 390 mill that a "friend" directly "donated" to your account?
I put it to you that you were selling them not via the secure method..
The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.22 13:32:00 -
[55]
Originally by: CKOZUK
Edited by: CKOZUK on 22/02/2008 13:31:25
So basically you have been selling Game Time Codes for 390 Mill a pop and then strangely 390 Mill was removed from your account by the GM's..... 390 mill that a "friend" directly "donated" to your account?
I put it to you that you were selling them not via the secure method..
My god... such a fiendish and convoluted deduction! BRILLIANT
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Polonium 210
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Posted - 2008.02.22 13:33:00 -
[56]
Originally by: GM Guard
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
It's me, I'm the GM who took the isk from the wallet of the guy in da OP.
Hi everyone.
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, Mr. Barrik Radhok is not a GM and impersonating CCP staff is not allowed. Not even if it is only meant as a joke.
Just a friendly reminder guys. Resume discussions.
Best Regards,
Senior GM Guard
EVE Online Customer Support
It's GM Guard, he's the GM who took the isk from the wallet of the guy in da OP.
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CKOZUK
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.22 13:36:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: CKOZUK
Edited by: CKOZUK on 22/02/2008 13:31:25
So basically you have been selling Game Time Codes for 390 Mill a pop and then strangely 390 Mill was removed from your account by the GM's..... 390 mill that a "friend" directly "donated" to your account?
I put it to you that you were selling them not via the secure method..
My god... such a fiendish and convoluted deduction! BRILLIANT
Meet my Dad!!!
The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.22 13:43:00 -
[58]
Originally by: CKOZUK
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: CKOZUK
Edited by: CKOZUK on 22/02/2008 13:31:25
So basically you have been selling Game Time Codes for 390 Mill a pop and then strangely 390 Mill was removed from your account by the GM's..... 390 mill that a "friend" directly "donated" to your account?
I put it to you that you were selling them not via the secure method..
My god... such a fiendish and convoluted deduction! BRILLIANT
Meet my Dad!!!
Ah, now it all makes sense.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
Viper Intel Squad
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.02.22 14:20:00 -
[59]
Isk buyer....
Go away...
You should have been banned.
No sympathy for you, supporting isk farmers.
So, why is ccp messing with my sig?
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.22 14:23:00 -
[60]
Sometimes I wonder if the Devs have a "threaten Goonswarm" button.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Ridley Tree
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:34:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
The OP has seriously sold a ton of GTCs.
And then some.
Right so that sort of puts an end to the possibility that he could be an innocent party in this. .
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:46:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Ridley Tree
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
The OP has seriously sold a ton of GTCs.
And then some.
Right so that sort of puts an end to the possibility that he could be an innocent party in this. .
What that does is prove that he is willing to spend real money to obtain isk. While it doesn't mean he bought it illegally, he has a predisposition of an isk buyer
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:52:00 -
[63]
I trust the game staff.
They know what they're doing.
You're not innocent.
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Ridley Tree
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2008.02.22 16:12:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Ephemeron
What that does is prove that he is willing to spend real money to obtain isk. While it doesn't mean he bought it illegally, he has a predisposition of an isk buyer
He's sold, or attempted to sell, somewhere in excess of 2 billion in time cards in the past few days. GMs probably went 'ok, lets look at this guy' and found some shady ****.
As a straight matter of 'can we, the players, be 100% sure he is guilty based on the evidence we have?', no we can't. Is it perfectly reasonable for us to believe the GMs took the proper action at this point? Yeah I'd say so. And I have very little love for the GMs.
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motomysz
GalMatar Body Politic
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Posted - 2008.02.22 16:12:00 -
[65]
Originally by: GM Guard
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
It's me, I'm the GM who took the isk from the wallet of the guy in da OP.
Hi everyone.
Just so that there is no misunderstanding, Mr. Barrik Radhok is not a GM and impersonating CCP staff is not allowed. Not even if it is only meant as a joke.
Just a friendly reminder guys. Resume discussions.
Best Regards,
Senior GM Guard
EVE Online Customer Support
GMs are worthless... We ought to just have an automated reply that randomly declines and fulfills reimbursement petitions, and then 3 people to deal with harassment and isk spammers.
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Ridley Tree
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2008.02.22 16:23:00 -
[66]
Originally by: motomysz
GMs are worthless... We ought to just have an automated reply that randomly declines and fulfills reimbursement petitions, and then 3 people to deal with harassment and isk spammers.
What makes you think thats not how it works? 
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.22 17:54:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Ridley Tree
Originally by: motomysz
GMs are worthless... We ought to just have an automated reply that randomly declines and fulfills reimbursement petitions, and then 3 people to deal with harassment and isk spammers.
What makes you think thats not how it works?
Because all my petitions got rejected, I failed maybe 5 over last 3 years. I have filed them only when I was certain the loss was due to a game bug. If GMs were just a random algorithm, I should have gotten at least 1 positive response. Only people can routinely deny
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.02.22 18:01:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Ridley Tree
Originally by: motomysz
GMs are worthless... We ought to just have an automated reply that randomly declines and fulfills reimbursement petitions, and then 3 people to deal with harassment and isk spammers.
What makes you think thats not how it works?
Because all my petitions got rejected, I failed maybe 5 over last 3 years. I have filed them only when I was certain the loss was due to a game bug. If GMs were just a random algorithm, I should have gotten at least 1 positive response. Only people can routinely deny
What makes you think it's a random algorithm? Could be a simple program that just denies everything.
Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
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Angry Alt
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.02.22 18:09:00 -
[69]
It's "random", You just got a streak of bad luck :)
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.22 18:10:00 -
[70]
I heard some people got reimbursed, a few times I heard people bragging how they petitioned every ship loss even they knew there were no game bugs involved, and said how GMs given them free ships
It was a couple years ago, tho
So, only people can show such preferences to some and complete disregard for others. Programs don't discriminate.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Volition Cult
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.02.22 18:29:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Cipher7
I trust the game staff.
They know what they're doing.
You must be new.
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.02.22 18:36:00 -
[72]
Actually, if the ISK has been reversed, it is more likely that he failed to deliver, somehow, on one of the 390 million ISK GTC's that he was selling. I.E. the buyer sent the money, and he didn't send the GTC.
Must have not been the secure way.
Or a glitch in the system.
Either way, the original post is a total lie, and probably an example of what the GM's have to deal with every day. I'd ban the guy just for being caught lying on the forums, but eh that's why I'm not working as a GM, I wouldn't last a day in that job.
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Grendelsbane
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Posted - 2008.02.22 19:32:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Technovar
Originally by: halson
i did not buy any isk my friend in school told me to play eve so i did and he sended me some isk now im like bank rupted what the hell man
Your "friend" bought ISK, most likely. That's just sad of him, in that there's a EULA-legal way to convert cash to ISK through GTC sales. It's too bad your "friend" shafted you with it, but 390M isn't too deep a hole to dig yourself out of. It will just suck for a while. I'd suggest starting an alt and joining a good corp. I can recommend E-UNI, of course - it might help you avoid making basic mistakes like accepting bought ISK.
For most characters under a year old, 390 million is a hell of a hole. For noobs, there is simply no point even trying. I can certainly see how NOT putting people into negative ISK for taking and spending bought ISK could be abused, though, so I don't see any easy solution to this. CCP really has no way to discern people's motivations sometimes.
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.02.22 20:24:00 -
[74]
He is NOT in a hole, though. He was simply complaining that one of the "gifts" of 390 million that he received from selling so many GTC's got reversed by a GM and was wondering why.
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood
ANTHRAX DEATH
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Posted - 2008.02.22 20:59:00 -
[75]
He didn't want that ISK anyway.
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Ethen Bejorn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.02.22 21:04:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Letouk Mernel
He is NOT in a hole, though. He was simply complaining that one of the "gifts" of 390 million that he received from selling so many GTC's got reversed by a GM and was wondering why.
So the ISK farmer or person who bought ISK with real money ripped this guy off and now CCP screws him? Excellent business practices!
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